Lewreader, one of the “Star Trek” movies involved a Gorbachev-like Klingon attempting a perestroika-like reform of the Klingon Empire, for similar reasons - internal crises brought on by overextension and military overexpenditure. There was also a Chernobyl-like industrial/environmental catastrophe (the Klingon homeworld itself didn’t explode, but something like that).
Kirk, being the most famous and successful Klingon-fighter around, was chosen to head the diplomatic negotiations from the Federation’s side. When Kirk himself asked “Why ME?” Spock responded “There is an old Vulcan proverb - ‘Only Nixon could go to China.’”
After defeating a faction of renegade Klingon generals who were opposed to detente (led by Shakespeare-quoting Christopher Plummer - “You can’t really appreciate Hamlet unless you hear it in the original Klingon”), peace was made with the Klingons and they joined the Federation (or perhaps merely finalized an alliance, which included officer-exchange. I think Worf wasn’t originally an official Starfleet officer).
To the best of my knowledge, though, it’s never been fully explained why Klingons have bone-ridges on their foreheads beginning with “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” but not before that, beyond Worf’s statement in an episode of “Deep Space Nine” (where the cast went back in time and were inserted into the original-series episode “The Trouble with Tribbles”) that “It is a long story. We do not discuss it with outsiders.”
(I think I’ve fully established my geek credentials, if they were in doubt.)
(By the way, Hamlet HAS been published in a Klingon translation, but I do not own it. Everybody knows that aliens can’t do Shakespeare properly.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon
look under explanation and theories - pretty good enterprise episode about genetic augmentation issues
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan-Klingon_Alliance
klingons and romulans were allies, then enemies
beacuse of :
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Khitomer
and because the enterprise c showed up, starfleet and klingons are now allies
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Enterprise_C
i still haven’t seen the latest movie - planning on checking it out soon tho
Hey FRITZOID & RABBIT Not having seen any Star Trek (or Star Wars) movies, I didn’t understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects. But I did like the memory of “The Trouble with Tribbles”
Lewreader: “Not being a Trekkie, how is it that the Klingons are the enemy of Kirk and the allies of Piccard?”
“I didn’t understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects.”
Whattaya busting my chops for? You knew enough to ask the question, and then complain when an answer is given?
Many of the Star Trek movies aren’t special-effects driven. They’re character driven, and there has been some marvelous dialogue given to the characters. About half of the Star Trek movies have been really good (traditionally, the even-numbered ones are more highly regarded than the odd-numbered ones). “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” has been considered to be one of the best Sci-Fi/Adventure movies ever made.
margueritem over 14 years ago
Love it…
Sisyphos over 14 years ago
Guess what, Mona? We know!
cdward over 14 years ago
Well, as long as there’s no other melding going on…..
lewisbower over 14 years ago
How is the Starship Enterprise like a roll of toilet paper?
Sorry, it was the only Klingon joke I know.
Not being a Trekkie, how is it that the Klingons are the enemy of Kirk and the allies of Piccard?
If Mona melds with a head full of stuffing, no one will know.
Clobbered by Science Premium Member over 14 years ago
Comment dit-on “geek” en Français?
fritzoid Premium Member over 14 years ago
Lewreader, one of the “Star Trek” movies involved a Gorbachev-like Klingon attempting a perestroika-like reform of the Klingon Empire, for similar reasons - internal crises brought on by overextension and military overexpenditure. There was also a Chernobyl-like industrial/environmental catastrophe (the Klingon homeworld itself didn’t explode, but something like that).
Kirk, being the most famous and successful Klingon-fighter around, was chosen to head the diplomatic negotiations from the Federation’s side. When Kirk himself asked “Why ME?” Spock responded “There is an old Vulcan proverb - ‘Only Nixon could go to China.’”
After defeating a faction of renegade Klingon generals who were opposed to detente (led by Shakespeare-quoting Christopher Plummer - “You can’t really appreciate Hamlet unless you hear it in the original Klingon”), peace was made with the Klingons and they joined the Federation (or perhaps merely finalized an alliance, which included officer-exchange. I think Worf wasn’t originally an official Starfleet officer).
To the best of my knowledge, though, it’s never been fully explained why Klingons have bone-ridges on their foreheads beginning with “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” but not before that, beyond Worf’s statement in an episode of “Deep Space Nine” (where the cast went back in time and were inserted into the original-series episode “The Trouble with Tribbles”) that “It is a long story. We do not discuss it with outsiders.”
(I think I’ve fully established my geek credentials, if they were in doubt.)
(By the way, Hamlet HAS been published in a Klingon translation, but I do not own it. Everybody knows that aliens can’t do Shakespeare properly.)
autumnfire1957 over 14 years ago
I love Mona’s brows
trekkermint over 14 years ago
yes, worf has always been starfleet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon look under explanation and theories - pretty good enterprise episode about genetic augmentation issues
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan-Klingon_Alliance klingons and romulans were allies, then enemies beacuse of : http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Khitomer and because the enterprise c showed up, starfleet and klingons are now allies http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Enterprise_C
i still haven’t seen the latest movie - planning on checking it out soon tho
cpb124 over 14 years ago
Hey Mona, get your passport and get ready to go to Amsterdam, the first Klingon opera is going to be performed there soon.
lewisbower over 14 years ago
Hey FRITZOID & RABBIT Not having seen any Star Trek (or Star Wars) movies, I didn’t understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects. But I did like the memory of “The Trouble with Tribbles”
trekkermint over 14 years ago
it’s geekspeak i like watching spaceships go boom :)
The missing M. Smokey over 14 years ago
Mind meld with Mona would be dangerous for anyone with a brain. Good thing I’m stuffed….
fritzoid Premium Member over 14 years ago
Lewreader: “Not being a Trekkie, how is it that the Klingons are the enemy of Kirk and the allies of Piccard?”
“I didn’t understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects.”
Whattaya busting my chops for? You knew enough to ask the question, and then complain when an answer is given?
Many of the Star Trek movies aren’t special-effects driven. They’re character driven, and there has been some marvelous dialogue given to the characters. About half of the Star Trek movies have been really good (traditionally, the even-numbered ones are more highly regarded than the odd-numbered ones). “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” has been considered to be one of the best Sci-Fi/Adventure movies ever made.