harley:
University of Georgia marine scientist Samantha Joy has openly, and often, criticized the Obama administration for downplaying the impact of the spill. You’ll like that: http://tinyurl.com/3zku7dn
In February, Joy released a report showing that much of the Gulf floor was still dead and coated in sludge.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency has said that a full recovery is still likely a ways off, and a quarter of the oil released in the spill “remains unaccounted for.” Check the map and note that The Economist isn’t exactly a left-wing rag:
http://tinyurl.com/3sdlhz6
^Its under the water. BP dispersants turn the oil into a fine mist that gets rid of all photo ops and evidence that there was even a spill. Know why BP didn’t allow flyovers over polluted areas? Bad for business if people knew the magnitude of the disaster they caused.
Why are you always going for bat for corporations Harleykinns?
The oysters are not reproducing, we don’t know the extent of long-term damage in the marshes and estuaries affected. The sea floor is a mess, and no, “greenies” who understood the problem did NOT want them using the dispersants, and said so at the time. Prince William Sound has NOT recovered from the Exxon Valdez incident and many commercial species, as well as wildlife are essentially gone. The same will be the long-term impact in the Gulf, but too soon to confirm that data, though projections BP denied, ARE happening.
Oil is where you find it, “convenient” is less easy to find today. Deep water drilling IS highly risky, but the real dangers of many resource extraction industries aren’t in the “actions” but in the cost-cutting methods and short-cuts. Drilling on “the cheap” by rewriting the regulations, as was done in Title 31, notably in 2007, or mountaintop removal for a “cheaper” way to get coal, greatly increases damage and risk. When huge corporations “take the money and run”, with the blessings of an idiot Congress, state legislatures, and ignorant public- we all lose while they gain.
“Caution” does NOT mean “no production” or progress, but throwing caution to the wind, while failing to recognize that wind is now CHEAPER than either oil or coal as an “energy” resource, is playing into that same stupidity and ignorance. If T.Boone PIckens, is making money, and yes, still calling for currently “cheap” natural gas as a combined use of resources to marginally clean things up, AND make a profit, folks might want to listen. Pickens readily admits he isn’t totally “green”, but he also is NOT stupid, or totally committed to greed- ignoring the cost to the planet, and posterity.
Harley, I wish you would read the whole article instead of cherry-picking the one quote. It said, in fact, that tar balls are STILL washing up on the beach. Is it ecological armageddon? No, but it’s still bad, the land is still damaged, and we don’t know all the possible effects.
And, oh, yeah, you were saying it was GONE six months ago.
Charles Brobst Premium Member about 13 years ago
BP is a criminal organization.
TruthfulTheocracy about 13 years ago
^Deja que los Brazileños pollute their waters then.
pirate227 about 13 years ago
Witness the baby turtles and baby dolphins washing up on the beach, hq.
I’m sure you have a reason other than oil pollution for this phenomenon. Please enlighten us…
Motivemagus about 13 years ago
harley: University of Georgia marine scientist Samantha Joy has openly, and often, criticized the Obama administration for downplaying the impact of the spill. You’ll like that: http://tinyurl.com/3zku7dn In February, Joy released a report showing that much of the Gulf floor was still dead and coated in sludge. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency has said that a full recovery is still likely a ways off, and a quarter of the oil released in the spill “remains unaccounted for.” Check the map and note that The Economist isn’t exactly a left-wing rag: http://tinyurl.com/3sdlhz6
WarBush about 13 years ago
^Its under the water. BP dispersants turn the oil into a fine mist that gets rid of all photo ops and evidence that there was even a spill. Know why BP didn’t allow flyovers over polluted areas? Bad for business if people knew the magnitude of the disaster they caused.
Why are you always going for bat for corporations Harleykinns?
charliekane about 13 years ago
^Seriously?
walkingmancomics about 13 years ago
“British Pirates”
Dtroutma about 13 years ago
The oysters are not reproducing, we don’t know the extent of long-term damage in the marshes and estuaries affected. The sea floor is a mess, and no, “greenies” who understood the problem did NOT want them using the dispersants, and said so at the time. Prince William Sound has NOT recovered from the Exxon Valdez incident and many commercial species, as well as wildlife are essentially gone. The same will be the long-term impact in the Gulf, but too soon to confirm that data, though projections BP denied, ARE happening.
Oil is where you find it, “convenient” is less easy to find today. Deep water drilling IS highly risky, but the real dangers of many resource extraction industries aren’t in the “actions” but in the cost-cutting methods and short-cuts. Drilling on “the cheap” by rewriting the regulations, as was done in Title 31, notably in 2007, or mountaintop removal for a “cheaper” way to get coal, greatly increases damage and risk. When huge corporations “take the money and run”, with the blessings of an idiot Congress, state legislatures, and ignorant public- we all lose while they gain.
“Caution” does NOT mean “no production” or progress, but throwing caution to the wind, while failing to recognize that wind is now CHEAPER than either oil or coal as an “energy” resource, is playing into that same stupidity and ignorance. If T.Boone PIckens, is making money, and yes, still calling for currently “cheap” natural gas as a combined use of resources to marginally clean things up, AND make a profit, folks might want to listen. Pickens readily admits he isn’t totally “green”, but he also is NOT stupid, or totally committed to greed- ignoring the cost to the planet, and posterity.
Jason Allen about 13 years ago
“Of course those links still say that Oh no there is still a lot of oil flouting around out there. REALLY how can they tell?”
Try looking at it. http://www.startribune.com/nation/120326899.html http://www.startribune.com/nation/120283049.html
Motivemagus about 13 years ago
Harley, I wish you would read the whole article instead of cherry-picking the one quote. It said, in fact, that tar balls are STILL washing up on the beach. Is it ecological armageddon? No, but it’s still bad, the land is still damaged, and we don’t know all the possible effects. And, oh, yeah, you were saying it was GONE six months ago.
dannysixpack about 13 years ago
he probably thinks all radioactivity can be washed off in a shower.
Jason Allen about 13 years ago
“It’s all Obama fault!!!!!”
I blame Obama for not nailing BP and their cohorts to the wall over the spill, but he wasn’t the one chanting “drill, baby, drill”.