Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for January 14, 2013

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    Superfrog  almost 12 years ago

    They all have the same agenda and they only have one goal.

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    el8  almost 12 years ago

    Water hockey, even more brutal than water polo.

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    Buckly34  almost 12 years ago

    Looks more like last year’s hockey enthusiasts last fall….no hockey to watch and the pond hasn’t frozen over yet.

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    Linguist  almost 12 years ago

    There is no such thing as climate … What ?… It’s freezing in LA and Tucson and balmy in Chicago and NewYork ?Impossible ! Damn Al Gore !

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    Proginoskes  almost 12 years ago

    Spring training for hockey

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    Yochanan204  almost 12 years ago

    Guess he missed the “record cold” in sunny southern California.

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    Brass Orchid Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    Are they the ones denying that the climate is changing, or the ones who are blaming the industrial age for 15,000 years of glacial recession? They look a lot alike to me, especially in a cartoon strip, where metaphors graze freely.

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    runar  almost 12 years ago

    In my corner of Wisconsin, there have only been three days of temperatures below freezing.

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    Hey, If Al Gore is right, we can blame the whole mess on him, right?. We’re going to have to blame somebody…

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    BrassOrchid, yup. 15,000 years of melting….half of which has happened in the last 50 years….

    Bruno, it’s a scientific fact about what will happen if we put too much carbon in the atmosphere. No one can deny what will happen if we do. The ONLY question, is weather that has happened yet. I live in Michigan. I haven’t seen four inches of snow in one place in 11 and a half months, and it’s the middle of January…..The year without snow…

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    I haven’t shoveled snow in two years….we normally get 80-90 inches per season…..It’s raining right now…Look at the date….

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    Yochanan, the global warming people talk about will only raise the Earths temperature a couple of degrees…So don’t expect it to feel much warmer all the time. But that is enough of a shift to cause weather patterns to change the world over..If it gets warmer in one place it will get colder in others.

    We’ll know how bad we screwed up when it stops raining in the Midwest and the Sahara floods……

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    jayoung1 Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    It isn’t climate change that’s in question – it’s whether or not we are causing it that is debatable. Liberal (envioronmental ecoterrorism).

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    jorgen Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    Look out of the window and see that the global warming is global cooling this week. And please do whatever is needed to create some global warming fast! Warming is much nicer.

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    tripwire45  almost 12 years ago

    If the weather around most of the country including my neck of the woods is any indication, those guys are frozen solid in a block of ice.

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    Ratbrat  almost 12 years ago

    They don’t deny climate change. They deny the alleged cause.

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    Vonne Anton  almost 12 years ago

    Somebody’s going to have prune toes before the game is over! And where’s the penalty swamp?

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    roctor  almost 12 years ago

    If man has no impact on the weather.May I suggest Ken Burns Dust Bowl.

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    emptc12  almost 12 years ago

    As I understand from reading many articles about global climate change, unusual weather lately results from increases in temperature of ocean currents. As your local weather person points to the weather map, notice how systems move off from the Pacific across the continent to affect weather. .There are such systems in various parts of the world. In areas with high population density such as around southern Asia, changes in weather patterns would cause misery and chaos. Some people think is has already started..Along with the rise in temperature at our levels of habitation, of course comes a change in temperatures at the poles. As I understand it, the north polar influences on weather southward is changing, too. Its push on the air currents is different than we are used to, and that makes for weather different than we are used to..You might wonder why weather people seldom mention global climate change, as they would certainly notice it as a result of their work. It’s probably due to sponsor pressure, and is a disservice to viewers, I think. People don’t get the real story because sponsors and broadcasters think that, like regular news, weather news must not be so unpleasant that views tune out. However, I notice that Tom Skilling has brought up the issue occasionally. .I’m no professional scientists, but I noticed 30 years ago there were extremely wide swings in temperatures and rainfall amounts in my area, and wondered if this portended something. Then things when back to the not so noticeable, if not the usual. .Our local ponds freeze over unreliably these days, and have not completely frozen in the last 10 years, while within my lifetime they were previously always hard frozen. Older people such as I look to the calendar and expect them to be frozen, and I think people haven’t checked actual conditions and fall through thin ice..My uncle has photographic slides taken in parks out West 60 years ago, and the change from then to now is striking. National Geographic Magazine has a plethora of photographs, over a hundred years worth, that document amazing and troubling changes in landscape..The debate concerning global climate change needs to change from the academic to the practical, because unlike changes in the past, 7 billion people are now affected.

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    watashi73  almost 12 years ago

    Al Gore perfect example of so-called Global Warming crisis. Maintains huge domestic carbon footrprint while preaching the rest of us to reduce ours. Sells failing left wing TV station to Big Oil Arabs for $100M personal gain. This allows Islamist propaganda into 41 million or so American homes. Wait until tossing $ after inefficient wind and Sun gives us grid failure all the while Government Motors churning out electric cars. Go figure.

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    Beleck3  almost 12 years ago

    the profit motive is so powerful, lol. like someone said, until money can be made, climate change is "normal’ and man has no effect upon climate, too. such willfull ignorant losers.

    obviously not many people have had aquariums or terrariums and seen how easily adding things to these “ecosystems” effects things.

    it is total ignorance to think their own children wont live in the same world, maybe in protected gated communities, but still in the same world, Mad Max style.

    when the Rich’s children start to be held ransom, like the Republicans are doing to America via the “debt” ceiling, then we will see true “understanding” and these “deniers” will become “truthers.” lol

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    cdward  almost 12 years ago

    I keep getting mixed messages from climate change deniers. First they say there is no change at all. Then they say that it’s all part of the natural pattern, but humans had no impact on it. Which is it?Moreover, given the vast and consistent agreement over climate change by scientists who actually study it – and have done so over decades – doesn’t it seem a bit silly to think there is no change. Not only change but rapid and increasing change.And isn’t it the height of naiveté to think you can mindlessly dump whatever you want into an environment and have no impact whatsoever? 2012, by the way, was the hottest on a global scale in recorded history.

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    gordrogb Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    Follow the money.

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    William Bednar Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    This is a very inconvenient Hoot!

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    dabugger  almost 12 years ago

    is that water frozen….they are then dead……

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    Linguist  almost 12 years ago

    The lunatic fringe have latched on to the term “Global Warming” in their strident denial of Climatic Changes. What they fail to understand is the wold climate IS changing and that change has been brought about by the wanton disregard of environmental safety by developing nations and by greedy manufacturers. The extreme and recurring extremes of fluctuations in climate and weather globally, cannot be denied.Here in Florida we have record breaking high temperatures for January. The North and Midwest also have uncharacteristic warm weather, while the Southwest and California, usually warm and pleasant, are experiencing record setting cold. These weather aberrations are a portent of Climate Change.

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    Tuner38  almost 12 years ago

    Climate always changes. Seven ice ages remember.

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    Packratjohn Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    WTP?

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    BloomCo  almost 12 years ago

    Record amount of Antarctic sea ice in 2012. Record cold in Alaska. Snow or cold records in Ukraine, China, Sweden, Turkey, etc. New weather station system called CONUS shows that the current system in use is off (reading too high) by an average of 2 degrees. So 2012 was not the hottest ever. Wind patterns in the Arctic are currently in Meridional flow. That pushes cold air down in some areas but lets warm air move up in other areas. Completely natural.

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    jimsizemore1405  almost 12 years ago

    Is there to be more storms like Katrina and Sandy? Will each storm eat away more barrier islands and more shore line? There are more super storms coming, the warmer ocean water guaranties this! The last 16 years are the warmest on record. 2012 the hottest year on record. The warming of the planet has been known as fact by the scientific community since the middle nineteen nineties, all denied by much of the media and many in the US congress. Is Hurricane Sandy the weathers version of a Pearl Harbor, which we our children and grand childern will wonder in dismay why we did nothing?

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    dpbriley  almost 12 years ago

    LOL!Zero links for substantiation, blathering.Climate Change consensus, not!Warmer? Don’t think so and the models don’t prove anything, oh and that’s according to NOAA’s own standards. “15 years or more without any statistically-significant warming would indicate a discrepancy between observation and prediction.” An Inconvenient Link 16 years without any statistically significant warming.It would appear that you are the one that may need to broaden their reading sources, step out of the echo chamber.

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    baileydean  almost 12 years ago

    “The climate change deniers would still be out in force if Earth turned into Dune, the desert planet. Or Waterworld, for that matter.”-Or Mars.

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    WaitingMan  almost 12 years ago

    Hundred-year storms are now coming every two or three years. But climate change is a liberal hoax? Right.

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    Defective Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    Third winter in a row for record warms and abnormal winters (little/no snow). It’s 47F here in Maine today, and has been like this for the last 3 days. The small amount of snow we got a few weeks ago is fading QUICKLY. As for ice fishing (something that has been popular up here for ages)? Do it if you dare!

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    Ernest Lemmingway  almost 12 years ago

    Jeez, give it a rest already. Yes, we’re raping the planet of resources faster than they can recover. Yes, we’re putting out a lot of carbon into the air and messing things up with pollution and not doing nearly enough about it. Yes, the warming of the Poles is worrisome and the world is warming faster than it has for millions of years. But this sort of ultra-liberal exaggeration isn’t exactly supported by a majority concensus among researchers and scientists. The world has been on a warming cycle since the end of the Fourteenth Century and only in the past single century have we developed the technology to detect such or even learned that such cycles exist. We haven’t had the time to gather objective evidence one way or the other on humanity’s influence on GCC. Not that it wouldn’t hurt if we started being more responsible about how we do things (like that will ever happen).

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    alviebird  almost 12 years ago

    One can neither prove or disprove climate change with local observations. Especially observations made over short periods.

    And please stop thinking “colder” or “warmer”. Think “more chaotic”. Extremes of weather. Warmer, colder, wetter, and drier in any one place.

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    dpbriley  almost 12 years ago

    Alarmist Global Warming or “Climate Change” as defined by the Alarmist is not established science.The argument that skeptics are any more heavily funded then alarmist is not established as well. If your unsupported argument was true, the skeptics would be flooding the information market and overwhelming the alarmist, fail.And, again, you provide no links or substantiation for your blathering, zero. Oh, and you missed the point of the second link, contains the admission from NOAA, second fail.

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    Sammy, that’s going to come as a surprise to nurseries and people who grow flowers in them…

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    If rain patterns shift, it could rain heavily in the Sahara. Only a couple thousand years ago the Sahara was a grassland.

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    I meant the temp. increase has become more rapid in the last 50 years…..Besides, we should only count the last 300 years because before that it was natural warming going on. Humans didn’t start changing it until the industrial age.

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    Rickapolis  almost 12 years ago

    No, no, believe the deniers that it’s all a plot to get money for grants. The whack jobs on the right continue to bamboozle the ignorati.

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    hippogriff  almost 12 years ago

    Bruno Zeigerts: I have Calgary Sun clippings claiming that role-playing games cause satanism and murder! ,Please keep straight one important distinction. Weather is what is happening in a given spot at a given time. Climate is what is happening all over, long term. Do not confuse the two.

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    lauisha  almost 12 years ago

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/01/14/no_global_warming_for_16_years_debunking_climate_change_denial.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr:content

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    wumpus Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    While the industrial age has certainly accelerated things, human effects on climate can be traced to the beginnings of agriculture. Deforestation in particular has been going on since at least then. When deniers make the charge that a few billion humans just don’t have the means to change something as big as the climate of the Earth, they are forgetting that this has been an almost 15,000 year project involving hundreds of billions of people.

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    dpbriley  almost 12 years ago

    Nice ad hominem, but again a total failure.The only one that would appear to need some growing up is you. Your little tantrum didn’t even contain the basics for refuting an argument.I know it’s a little hard for you, but step outside your little echo chamber and read a few other sources of information. It’s quite astonishing that those that claim to have the higher intellect are the very ones who choose to focus on narrow sources of information and don’t have a questioning attitude.You appear to have a bit of a god complex or believe, wrongfully, that you speak for a majority on the planet. That would point to some serious problems, seek professional help.

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    pcolli  almost 12 years ago

    We’re not helping the situation.

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    Vonne Anton  almost 12 years ago

    Anyone hear read “State of Fear,” a novel by Michael Crichton? …Or should I say, an anti-global warming diatribe masquerading as a novel.-Anyway, in it he shows graphs from all over the world to prove that, ever since temps records began to be officially kept (circa 1890’s), the average temp rise has only been about 1%. This is where most of the deniers seem to get their foundation. (He also argued that the climate change eco-terrorists have all the money to argue this, like Greenpeace actually has more money than BP!?! Go figure. He seemed to think that if you stretch a statistic out long enough, you will get the truth…when you don’t.)-However, if one looked at every one of those graphs he presents in his book, they will see that since the mid-1970’s there has been a SHARP increase. Actually temps dropped for many decades, but the last 40 years have seen dramatic instability!-Go look at the book and check it out. Dr. Crichton unwittingly gave the most stunning proof of climate change I’ve ever seen.

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    BillWa  almost 12 years ago

    This would be real if they were playing in the summer. So called deniers don’t deny there is climate change, we just call it seasons. We say it isn’t man made.

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    bransom  almost 12 years ago

    Oh No the weather changed AGAIN! Somebody do something QUICK!

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    Caddy57  almost 12 years ago

    Global warming isn’t the only cause…Try mid summer withdrawl syptoms

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    dpbriley  almost 12 years ago

    You are certainly an amusing troll, but nothing else of substance.Commonly referred to as a useful idiot.You seem to feel the need to express yourself with even less facts, knowledge and education.But please rant on, we find court jesters fun to watch. Please fool, give us a show.Can’t even figure out html . . . . . lol

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    The Life I Draw Upon  almost 12 years ago
    I have examined the Vostok ice core data going back +400,000 years, and seen the NOAA reports. I know that it has been found that polar ice is melting much faster than forecast because feedback was not taken into account.

    .Use your eyes and common sense. Look at pictures of the Greenland ice sheet over time. Know that large ships are going through the once impenerable Northwest Passage. Look at the data yourself and not the opinion of a self proclaimed expert. If you saw the ice cubes in your drink shrinking and someone told you they were not getting warmer. That it was a hoax and a conspiracy, What would you think?

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    dpbriley  almost 12 years ago

    Inane response from Bailey at any moment nowWait for it . . . .

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    Buggerlugs  almost 12 years ago

    Looks like Wiley struck a nerve …. again.

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    Richtmyer  almost 12 years ago

    That’s it folks. Send AlGore a few more millions to fight something that doesn’t exist.

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    Call me Ishmael  almost 12 years ago

    No, it happened because we killed off the bison, and replaced the prairie grass with a monoculture of corn and/or wheat. We had not yet realized that these crops use more water and don’t protect the soil. The operative word is WE…homo sap, of whom far too many now cover the planet. WE are not a sustainable species, unless we understand that the “system” was NOT made for us, and we must accept some limits. See Bierce’s quote:“Earth: a planet, 3/4 of which is covered by water, made for Man, who has no gills”.

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    prrdh  almost 12 years ago

    Frankly, I think it’s pretty fatuous to talk about “looking forward” to facts being facts, and to claim that there is something “wrong” with someone who refrains from wishful thinking.

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    baileydean  almost 12 years ago

    Nope. " Masn caused climate change is a lie."… is a finger (probably brain) fumbled mistake!

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    Varnes  almost 12 years ago

    Richtmer, YOU don’t exist….Prove that you do,….Wiley….Um… I don’t know, just thank you I guess….

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    vwdualnomand  almost 12 years ago

    it was 50 degrees in new england today in january. and, 30 degrees in arizona. what more evidence do these deniers need?

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    RonBerg13 Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    How do you know its unprecedented?

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    RonBerg13 Premium Member almost 12 years ago

    And just exactly what would this global Manhattan project consist of? And who would be in charge? You and your crony liberal cohorts?Ha!

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    pabsfx-comics  almost 12 years ago

    Some good info on climate change: http://www.skepticalscience.com/Earth-expected-global-warming.htm

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    keenanthelibrarian  almost 12 years ago

    Only one goal post? and playing with a beach ball?? They appear to know what they are doing.

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    dpbriley  almost 12 years ago

    Ah, I see that Bailey continued with his ad hominem attacks and name calling. Isn’t he oh so clever!Seriously, you are a failure.

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    Lou Stoole  almost 12 years ago

    This cartoon is stranger than fiction… and Tuesday’s Anchorage Daily News front page http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=AK_ADN&ref_pge=gal&b_pge=1

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    hagridogre  12 months ago

    Now, its 2023, and miracle of miracles, we haven’t drowned or burned up, but Cap and Trade taxes are wiping out peoples savings in Washington state. What a hoax. The ONLY thing that determines climate change to any significant degree is that big yellow ball in the sky.

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