La Cucaracha by Lalo Alcaraz for November 19, 2014
November 18, 2014
November 20, 2014
Transcript:
The Beandocks Dear President Obama, so glad you are taking your midterm election losses in stride. I'm not trippin'. Let them have their moment. Like they say, the darker the Barry, the sweeter the Republican midterm election victory.
I just love it when white people have the audacity to put themselves in the shoes of people who have beendiscriminated against in so many ways for so many years.dicrimination? why , boy, that is so outdated. we don’t dothat any more. not a’tall , not a’tall!we look upon ALL people the same, m’boy! everyone is equal.
Martin Luther King would be ashamed of Lalo today.
You’re very selective with your MLK quotes. Particularly as MLK was very much struggling against white racism. Not surprisingly, he called out white racism as the real obstacle to people seeing each others’ humanity. And plenty of white folks in his day accused him of being racially divisive specifically for his struggle against racism. So no, I don’t think MLK would be ashamed at all.
taken a page from his adopted namesake (Malcolm X) to embrace racism
You’ve neglected a hugely important part of Malcolm’s life, when he went on Hajj and viscerally realized the shared humanity of people of all races. Of course, when he came back from that he changed his name to El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, so in a charitable reading it’s possible to assume you were specifically talking about this man’s pre-Hajj days. If this was the case, why not bring up the change he underwent? I’d think you’d see it as an optimistic development.
Scientifically, yes, it’s misused. Unfortunately it remains in common parlance and exists as a social construct just as real as money, gender, democracy, and the like. Real enough that people suffer because of it, economically, health-wise, and in so many other ways.
I do remember reading that we as humans have about 4% shared genes from Neanderthals. Please don’t ask for chapter and verse as that belongs over at the Editorial Cartoons. Its out there, just Goggle it.
You might, and then you might or might not be wrong. Probably a quantum superposition of the two!
I believe Lalo was the first to play the race card today.
If you’ll recall, I was responding to sue about this. And sue was going on about how race was being used as a weapon. But the strip wasn’t doing this. On the other hand, you did.
“My compadre, right or right.”
Except those times that I disagree. And let’s even say I almost never disagreed with Alcaraz. How would that be any worse than you almost never agreeing with him? “My enemigo, wrong or wrong.”
Agrestic doesn’t offer anything about the strip itself – only about others’ comments.
Comments that are related to the strip. And thus part of the conversation that the strip has generated. But rather than say anything about the issues, you go in for the ol’ ad hominem. Which is generally the tactic of someone who doesn’t have a good argument to make on the issues themselves. And which is not an atypical tack for you to take, whether with Alcaraz or those posters you disagree with on here.
Nope. I criticize what you have to say, because it is largely wrong. You seem to be interpreting this as attacking you the person. I suspect your perception is driven in part by the fact that you yourself engage in personal attacks. Not critiques of content. In fact, I’m hard-pressed to recall when you actually engaged in a substantive back-and-forth of facts or even ideas.
Agrestic’s comments about me are very similar, time and again.
As are yours of Lalo. Which more than one poster has told you directly. And yet you persist. As far as trying to use Spinoza’s quote in this context, I’m afraid you didn’t apply it to this situation very well, particularly since I actually do remember what I’ve said day to day. As far as that definition of insanity, well, I suppose we’re in that one together. Meet you in the rubber room!
ORMouseworks about 10 years ago
OK, so just who is this “‘Barry’” you keep talking about?!
carlosrivers about 10 years ago
pretty good question
Trilobyte Premium Member about 10 years ago
Is it true that your not Barry informed, or are you kidding?
Trilobyte Premium Member about 10 years ago
A quick web search for Barry Obama will clear this up if it is a serious query.
Nighthawks Premium Member about 10 years ago
I just love it when white people have the audacity to put themselves in the shoes of people who have beendiscriminated against in so many ways for so many years.dicrimination? why , boy, that is so outdated. we don’t dothat any more. not a’tall , not a’tall!we look upon ALL people the same, m’boy! everyone is equal.
Nighthawks Premium Member about 10 years ago
of course, some people are more equal than others
BeniHanna6 Premium Member about 10 years ago
That’s right it’s all about race, nothin’ to do with the large number of incredible blunders on the foreign policy.
agrestic about 10 years ago
Martin Luther King would be ashamed of Lalo today.
You’re very selective with your MLK quotes. Particularly as MLK was very much struggling against white racism. Not surprisingly, he called out white racism as the real obstacle to people seeing each others’ humanity. And plenty of white folks in his day accused him of being racially divisive specifically for his struggle against racism. So no, I don’t think MLK would be ashamed at all.
taken a page from his adopted namesake (Malcolm X) to embrace racism
You’ve neglected a hugely important part of Malcolm’s life, when he went on Hajj and viscerally realized the shared humanity of people of all races. Of course, when he came back from that he changed his name to El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, so in a charitable reading it’s possible to assume you were specifically talking about this man’s pre-Hajj days. If this was the case, why not bring up the change he underwent? I’d think you’d see it as an optimistic development.
agrestic about 10 years ago
Scientifically, yes, it’s misused. Unfortunately it remains in common parlance and exists as a social construct just as real as money, gender, democracy, and the like. Real enough that people suffer because of it, economically, health-wise, and in so many other ways.
ORMouseworks about 10 years ago
I do remember reading that we as humans have about 4% shared genes from Neanderthals. Please don’t ask for chapter and verse as that belongs over at the Editorial Cartoons. Its out there, just Goggle it.
agrestic about 10 years ago
we might assume
You might, and then you might or might not be wrong. Probably a quantum superposition of the two!
I believe Lalo was the first to play the race card today.
If you’ll recall, I was responding to sue about this. And sue was going on about how race was being used as a weapon. But the strip wasn’t doing this. On the other hand, you did.
“My compadre, right or right.”
Except those times that I disagree. And let’s even say I almost never disagreed with Alcaraz. How would that be any worse than you almost never agreeing with him? “My enemigo, wrong or wrong.”
Agrestic doesn’t offer anything about the strip itself – only about others’ comments.
Comments that are related to the strip. And thus part of the conversation that the strip has generated. But rather than say anything about the issues, you go in for the ol’ ad hominem. Which is generally the tactic of someone who doesn’t have a good argument to make on the issues themselves. And which is not an atypical tack for you to take, whether with Alcaraz or those posters you disagree with on here.
agrestic about 10 years ago
yet mostly attacks posters
Nope. I criticize what you have to say, because it is largely wrong. You seem to be interpreting this as attacking you the person. I suspect your perception is driven in part by the fact that you yourself engage in personal attacks. Not critiques of content. In fact, I’m hard-pressed to recall when you actually engaged in a substantive back-and-forth of facts or even ideas.
Agrestic’s comments about me are very similar, time and again.
As are yours of Lalo. Which more than one poster has told you directly. And yet you persist. As far as trying to use Spinoza’s quote in this context, I’m afraid you didn’t apply it to this situation very well, particularly since I actually do remember what I’ve said day to day. As far as that definition of insanity, well, I suppose we’re in that one together. Meet you in the rubber room!