Maybe Lola’s cartoon is correct. If we secured the borders of the Americas from the Spaniards then 10 of millions of Indian lives would have been saved.
@sueamarlucan, Mexico abolished slavery in 1829, 5 years before the British Empire did it in 1834 and Texas has the distinction of having fought twice for slavery. It took a civil war (1860-1865) for the US to abolish slavery but its reverberations are still felt today. As for the 1848 war, Mexico was doomed in part because the Mexican elite (of Spanish blood) wanted nothing to do with the “natives”. Eventually the “natives” with Benito Juarez and Porfirio Diaz took over. The other part is that at the 1836 Battle of San Jacinto the USA learned that superior weapons can win wars: repeating weapons versus single shot muskets. Manifest Destiny here we come. Actually it wasn’t even “a conquest”. In the end we end up “buying” it since we had to bribe the Mexicans to sign the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Baja California was spared because President Polk said we had enough desert.
“All right then -“it has been” is the only meaning I (or you) could see.Therefore, all my observations are valid.”
Looks to me like you made one contingent observation, one critique of the author’s form, and asked a lot of questions. Do all those questions count as observations?
The question stands – exactly what is “it”?
The time to secure the border. As in, “We should have done this from the moment these pale yahoos showed up.”
“…it’s been time to secure the border” just doesn’t make sense.
Nope. It’s a long-standing satirization of some white folks’ calling for closing the borders of the US. Basically calling out the hypocrisy of it.
Since it makes perfect sense to you, bad English and all, then you have absolutely no right to take issue with anything I write, since it makes sense to me.
Except that the strip’s phrasing is not bad English. It’s perfectly grammatical and understandable. You just didn’t seem to be able to parse it yourself.
As far as taking issue with you, I understand what you say quite well, and your very clear statements and questions are what I disagree with.
And as long as it makes sense to someone, according to you, it’s okay.
You’re trying to conflate two separate arguments. One is whether a statement can be understood or not. The second is whether or not one agrees with a statement. Two different things. One does not equal the other. And thus, once more, your logic is faulty and your argument is for nought. Better luck next time.
Ironic Eggbeater almost 10 years ago
It’s all Obama’s fault.
ORMouseworks almost 10 years ago
Unfortunately, its way past time, Mr. Native American…
Space_cat almost 10 years ago
The borders needed to be secured… In 1492!
cepa almost 10 years ago
Maybe Lola’s cartoon is correct. If we secured the borders of the Americas from the Spaniards then 10 of millions of Indian lives would have been saved.
kaffekup almost 10 years ago
And just think of all the wars in Europe that would never have happened if not funded by stolen gold from Central and South “America”.
TheEtruscan almost 10 years ago
@sueamarlucan, Mexico abolished slavery in 1829, 5 years before the British Empire did it in 1834 and Texas has the distinction of having fought twice for slavery. It took a civil war (1860-1865) for the US to abolish slavery but its reverberations are still felt today. As for the 1848 war, Mexico was doomed in part because the Mexican elite (of Spanish blood) wanted nothing to do with the “natives”. Eventually the “natives” with Benito Juarez and Porfirio Diaz took over. The other part is that at the 1836 Battle of San Jacinto the USA learned that superior weapons can win wars: repeating weapons versus single shot muskets. Manifest Destiny here we come. Actually it wasn’t even “a conquest”. In the end we end up “buying” it since we had to bribe the Mexicans to sign the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Baja California was spared because President Polk said we had enough desert.
TheEtruscan almost 10 years ago
AS for “borders”, I am sure “Jurassic” America must have been marvelous.
agrestic almost 10 years ago
As frequently happens, Lalo is unclear in his writing.
Not if you understand context. Unless, of course, the reader’s aim is to purposely obfuscate the meaning for himself.
agrestic almost 10 years ago
Oooor, I can understand history and the English language. Yeah, I think I’ll go with that one.
agrestic almost 10 years ago
Give me an example of “it is been”
How about I give an example of “it has been,” which is much more appropriate to the strip.
To slightly paraphrase Aaron Neville: “It has been a long time coming, but I know a change is going to come. Oh yes it will.”
agrestic almost 10 years ago
“All right then -“it has been” is the only meaning I (or you) could see.Therefore, all my observations are valid.”
Looks to me like you made one contingent observation, one critique of the author’s form, and asked a lot of questions. Do all those questions count as observations?
The question stands – exactly what is “it”?
The time to secure the border. As in, “We should have done this from the moment these pale yahoos showed up.”
“…it’s been time to secure the border” just doesn’t make sense.
Made perfect sense to me.
agrestic almost 10 years ago
Ah, a racist interpretation.
Nope. It’s a long-standing satirization of some white folks’ calling for closing the borders of the US. Basically calling out the hypocrisy of it.
Since it makes perfect sense to you, bad English and all, then you have absolutely no right to take issue with anything I write, since it makes sense to me.
Except that the strip’s phrasing is not bad English. It’s perfectly grammatical and understandable. You just didn’t seem to be able to parse it yourself.
As far as taking issue with you, I understand what you say quite well, and your very clear statements and questions are what I disagree with.
And as long as it makes sense to someone, according to you, it’s okay.
You’re trying to conflate two separate arguments. One is whether a statement can be understood or not. The second is whether or not one agrees with a statement. Two different things. One does not equal the other. And thus, once more, your logic is faulty and your argument is for nought. Better luck next time.