Here in Australia you don’t need a voter Id. You just go in, give your name, and they cross your name off a list. Of course it’s illegal not to vote. I also don’t see why you need a fancy machine. Just mark your ballot for who you want.
At one time, all that was needed to cross our border was a voter registration card. At that time, a LOT of people were getting them illegally, for some odd reason.
The concept of Voter fraud is itself a fraud. Dubya’s Justice Department studied it for 8 years and found bupkes. These Voter ID laws are a solution in search of a problem.
He didn’t say enough about the gerrymandering, where the pols pick the voters they want instead of vice versa. Modern tech is especially good at maximizing the wasted votes of the opposing party while discouraging ALL of the voters from even bothering, since the winner is already determined when the district is gerrymandered. The House of so-called Representatives is firmly controlled by the neo-GOP even though they got LESS votes.
Here in the UK the government keeps a list of voters’ addresses, and a few weeks before the election they post a voting card to your address, and then you take it to the polling booth and they cross you off a list for the area. If you forget your card, they cross you off anyway. I think we had about three false votes in the whole of the most recent election.
Indeed, and the modern Democrats repudiate their ancestors’ bigoted acts at every opportunity. When Republicans have to reach back to 1964 or so for the last time they were the party of civil rights, it’s a sad decline.
And those same Democrats from the 60’s, 50’s, 40’s and before are all now Republicans who are trying to do what they could so easily get away with before. Preventing a lot of non-white male persons the right to vote. Give up the “Fox News” talking point…
Requiring ID to vote is NOT “inhibiting voting.” It is NECESSARY to keep people from voting more than once. Anybody who thinks differently is a fool. It’s such a basic thing it shouldn’t even be an issue. They haven’t found a lot of voter fraud because they aren’t looking, since the lookers are the guilty ones.
It is the photo requirement that causes a problem, not just ID, since many of the poor, elderly, minorities, and students don’t drive. On the other hand, some places allow a gun permit as ID but not a student ID. Interesting. In California, they are starting to automatically register people who get a driver’s license, though you don’t have to have a driver license to vote. All comics are not funny, some are just enlightening.
It’s a problem so grave that with only several dozen instances on record, steps must be taken that will keep a thousands of non-GOP voters away from the polls.
Sounds like a feature rather than a bug, for the Republicans.
Keeping an election honest is a critical national issue because a government that is elected by a questionable election is, by definition, a questionable government. For the last 68 years I have lived near Chicago. As a child I started reading Mike Royko. He wrote countless stories about voter fraud, dead people voting, people voting using an empty lot as a home address. I was told a story about a fellow employee’s relative who was so opposed to the election of Harold Washington that he drove to Chicago from his home in the suburbs and voted against Harold Washington. Vote early and vote often is the election motto of Chicago. While voting in an election in Kane County Illinois, I saw a person use two forms of identification that had conflicting names on the forms. He was allowed to vote. As for registering to vote 50 years ago, well I do not even remember it so it must not have been difficult. I do remember registering for the draft as though it was yesterday. As for voting today, I present my voter’s registration card and carry other forms of identification as required by election law. Between elections I store my voter’s registration card in my desk. When I have moved, I used the change of address form on the voter’s registration card. Easy-peasy
This is last years’s news, and addressing it now with a sledge hammer is NOT AMUSING in a Sunday morning strip. Yes, it is relevant and very important, but only the “choir” appreciates that. This particular member of that choir doesn’t like today’s strip.
Typical left-wing revisionism. Here’s some actual history. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a Republican measure, roundly opposed by the Democrats, some of whom, such as Byrd, had been Ku Klux Klan officials. Every segregationist governor in the old South was a Democrat. Every one of them. Now, of course, the liberals, having done nothing to help blacks out of their spiral toward single mothers, black-on-black violence and crime, pretend to be their champions, at least until after the votes are counted. But Republicans, those evil scum, actually want folks to prove they’re American citizens before they can vote to determine the direction of the country.
Unfortunately, this is NOT yesterday’s news. It is very much still a problem. The reality is that many people do not drive for many reasons and yes, this would make it difficult for them to get a photo ID. Many poor people can’t afford cars. Many elderly can’t drive anymore due to disability. Many students don’t drive due to the fact that they are in a different state and living on campus.Those who have the most power in this situation always scream the loudest, however, per usual.
Do you want people that are too ignorant, too lazy or too incompetent to obtain a I.D., find a voting booth or get aabsentee ballot to elect your next president ??? OOH, been there done that.
Talk about revisionist history! The Democrats had some bigots, yes. Then along came LBJ, who was the biggest proponent of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, who famously said, “The Democratic Party just lost the South for a generation.” when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 went through.LBJ was wrong, the Democrats lost the South from that point on, apparently. I seem to remember some folks called the Kennedys and many others who were BIG proponents of civil rights. I also know that the GOP had and still has it’s share of bigots!!! After LBJ, the South shifted to the GOP. George Wallace ran as an Independent in 1968 and many southerners either voted for Wallace or Tricky Dicky Nixon. This is very OLD news.
our voting laws are so screwed up, it makes other places look like efficient societies. We do want people to vote, but vote for the person that interests want. If we find a group of people who historically vote for this party and a major bloc, we suppress it with shenanigans. We gerrymander districts. We demonize a bloc of voters as un-patriotic and evil. Some people want a return of the poll tax, literacy test, civics test, etc… Some others want only caucasian(english ancestry), protestant(evangelical) christian, property owners, male and over the age of 35 are eligible to vote.
In the 1970s I was working in a long term care facility. At voting time, ward heelers would come with absentee ballots and go as visitors to the rooms. Most of the people had not kept up with politics. They asked the ward heeler who they should vote for and he told them. I had just started voting and was naive enough to view it as a sacred duty. I thought what the ward heeler was doing was disgusting and asked what he did with the few ballots that did not have his preferred candidate on them. He told me to mind my own business. There is still voter fraud. I think it can be more sophisticated with electronic voting. I have moved around the country and voted in 4 different states in my life. I have always been required to show ID or a document that proved I lived within the district in which I was voting. All of a sudden this is not necessary because too many people do not have ID? You need ID to apply for welfare so the reason of financial hardship in obtaining ID will not wash.The only reason to not require it is to allow those not eligible to vote, to be able to vote, and, as dukedoug said, vote often, and in various precincts, and maybe even cross state lines to vote. Who would this benefit? Only those that have a vested interest in fraudulent voting.
Again, it is not simply about obtaining an ID. Usually, it is about getting a photo ID, as in a driver’s license. I would like to see even those who have no driver’s license be able to vote. As an example, my mother, who is 93, no longer drives. She taught Kindergarten for many decades. However, she cannot and should not drive. I would like to see a more representative democracy, which includes poor, elderly, college students, etc. Some of the GOP have even stated openly that they know they won their elections due to messing around with the voting requirements. It is truly disgusting.
Odd how a state has no problem with voter fraud but then when the republicans think they might loose the majority in the poor districts they make up a need for a law that was never needed before … hmmmm
Up here in the Great White North we have revamped our voter ID laws to the detriment of what may be up to 100000 voters, or more. Our Fair Election Act is our version of Jim Crow, and a lot of us are pi…, er, miffed.
“Voter ID is not racist… nice try, but it just reminds me that dems want everyone to stay on the plantation…~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.This Dem didn’t even know that any plantations still existed; I thought all the farming had been taken over by mega-corporations (that are willing to hire anyone, black or white, and pay them starvation wages).Tnaks for bringing me up to date.
Jim Crow is and always be the property of the left. The same for voter fraud. Must be nice to spread lies and demo propaganda and get paid well for it, and in the funny papers, no less.
As a Democrat myself, I would like to see a truly representative democracy, with as many as possible who are eligible to vote, voting. That is not the way it is. Many of the working poor certainly do not vote, nor do many college students or elderly people. I would like to see far more people voting who are eligible to vote, however it falls. More people should be voting. If more people were voting and they voted for the GOP, who supports the super wealthy and mega corporations and does not look out for the rest of us, fine. So be it. Otherwise, no, it is not OK.
1. There is no voter fraud except in conservatives’ minds. Obama didn’t win TWICE because of voter fraud. The ONLY reason they want voter ID is to prevent people from voting for Democrats.2. I live in Illinois. I don’t need an ID for the general election. They compare my signature with the one on file. I can also vote for 3 weeks before the election, from 7a-7p, 7 days a week.3. Oregon has voting by mail.4. We need mandatory registration for free and mandatory voting. But that’s the last thing the right wants.
Jim Crow indeed. The only “problem” that the hateful lot of tighty righties are trying to solve is how to stop people from voting for the Democratic Party.
Vote early! Vote often!This election dayVote early! Vote often!The American WayVote early! Vote often!And the Force even mayBe with you (though doubtful)This election day
IN FACT:
Considering the tone ofAlmost all of the debateI’d like to draw and quarterEvery single candidate!
LBJ was responsible for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and sacrificed votes for the Democratic Party because of this. He knew this would happen and it did. LBJ was a Democrat. No one is saying there should be no voter ID. Rather, it should not be all about whether or not one has a driver’s license. It is true that many poor, elderly and college students do NOT have cars. It is also true that many of those groups tend to vote Democratic. LBJ is ancient history, by the way. Personally, I have no memory of him. I know him from reading about him and hearing about him. Unfortunately, the first prez I can remember was Tricky Dicky Nixon. This does not mean that I think I know any less about LBJ than the average person. One doesn’t have to have experienced the French Revolution to know that it took place.
Its funny that all these voting restrictions were made by republicans claiming that they prevent voter fraud and yet when investigated they found little or no fraud. They were put there to deny a segment of citizens the vote. Here the jack boots in the background it is becoming downright scary.
What nobody has mentioned yet is that, in requiring a solution to a nonexistent problem, republicans are admitting they can’t win on their pathetic ideas.
Recent comments by Republicans about voter suppression:Christie: Same day voter registration is a “trick” and GOP needs to win gubernatorial races so they control “voting mechanisms.”Fran Millar, Georgia Senator: Millar complained about polling place being too convenient for black voters.Doug Preis, Ohio GOP chair:" We shouldn’t accommodate the urban— read African American— voter turnout machine."Greg Abbott: Partisan districting decisions are legal, even if there are “incidental effects” on minority voters.Ted Yoho, congressman of Florida: “I’ve got some radical ideas about voting and it’s probably not a good idea to tell them, but you used to have to be a property owner to vote” and he called early voting by absentee ballots a travesty.Don Yelton, North Carolina GOP precinct chair: Voter ID law will “kick Democrats in the butt” and “hurt lazy blacks.” There are also many other examples of interesting comments by the GOP concerning this issue.
Vote by mail – the entire state of Oregon. We get voter pamphlets in the mail a couple of weeks before the ballots show up. Fill out, mail in. Early is fine. There is a hard deadline, and there are places where you can drop off your ballot. Fraud? How? Those who are registered to vote receive the ballot at their home address. If you want to discuss with friends and family, fine, if you don’t want, fine. They are considering automatic registration when you get your driver’s license. Great idea. And no, not everyone votes. Your choice. (To get a driver’s license, you have to show amazing amounts of id anymore – such as a passport and your old license or two-three other ids. It’s a pain in the neck, but it surely reduces chance of fraud.)
I hope not, c davies. I have always admired Canadians for their good judgment and common sense. Canada is an excellent example that the U. S. should try to emulate in many ways. Let’s hope that continues. I’m betting that it will.
Here’e an oldie but goodie from 2001. Dem caught with Votomatic in his car trunk:According to a police report filed at the Palm Beach County sheriff’s office and obtained by ABCNEWS, Irving Slosberg, 53, pulled the mechanism from his car and handed it over to police on Nov. 11 after denying to a county government employee that he had it.I got dozens more, but they’re all dems caught in the act of vote fraud.
Democrats fought to expand slavery while Republicans fought to end it.Democrats passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws.Democrats fought to keep blacks in slavery and away from the polls, and they started the Clan to terrorize them.Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia is well known for having been a “Keagle” in the Clan.Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.Democrats passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans.Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Clan, Sen. Hugo Black, Democrat of Alabama.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Clan in Kansas City in 1922.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Republican efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.Democrat public safety commissioner Eugene “Bull” Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.Democrats were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.Democrat Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.Democrat Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.Democrat Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.Democrat President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.Democrat President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.Democrat President Bill Clinton’s mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Democrat and a supporter of racial segregation.Democrat President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.What have the Democrats ever done for Blacks or Hispanics?
Voter fraud is a problem with certain local elections, but it is very hard to believe that one group can get enough fraudalant votes to overturn a national election. I am sure that the fraud would be 2 sided and would cancel out the other.
How could they get the millions of votes needed to assure an election?
There is a Simple Fix for That Problem:.A Binding choice for “None of the Above” in Every Race in Every Election.Any candidate who Loses to “None of the Above” would be Barred from running for that office in a Special Election to be held as soon as New Candidates could be certified for the vacant office.
Not all of the states that require a photo ID to vote are southern states, so characterizing this situation as a return of the old Jim Crow laws isnt’ accurate.
According to the Ballotpedia website, as of April 2015, 17 states require a photo ID that is usually a government issued ID. Indiana, Kansas and Michigan are among those states, and, last I checked, they weren’t part of the south.
Here’s an interesting thought. There was an amendment to the US Constitution that prevented states from keeping people from voting if did not pay a poll tax ‘or a similar tax’. If states are requiring people to pay for photo IDs for use in voting, is this not a violation of the Bill of Rights? Where is a public spirited lawyer willing to take on a pro bono case to argue this point before the Supremes?
So the disadvantaged need help so they don’t get shut out of registering to vote, right?
And they won’t have any similar problem showing up at the voting booth in the future?!
Doesn’t everyone in India have a voter registration card? Aren’t there ‘more of them there’ than ‘here’? So why is it a problem for US and not for the citizens of India?
Go figure… or think about the answer before you give your ‘answer’…
Actually this latest round of voter suppression laws should be called “informed crow”. Since those who really read them would be eating some. Nothing wrong with the incompetent illiterate and uninformed voting at the polls, afterall, their, er “form votes” are counted just like everyone else’s informed votes.
The DMV here (in NC, USA) issues a non-driving picture ID to those who are not driving. With proper documentation, easily produced if you have Medicaid (welfare), the ID is free. So, get up off your gluteus maximus and get it. Ya needed ID to get your Medicaid, didn’t ya?!
Because of the focus on the ID issue, most commentators have not mentioned other steps that have been taken to make voting more difficult. Cutting back early voting, especially on the weekend making it harder for working people. Limiting the number of polling places.
“Felony records created by white police departments”.Actually, police departments can’t give anyone a felony record..But we may as well let convicted felons vote anyway, even in prison. They have time to study the issues and candidates.
BE THIS GUY over 9 years ago
I agree about the return of Jim Crow but this wasn’t funny.
thirdguy over 9 years ago
I think GT was pi…..I mean, miffed.
rpmurray over 9 years ago
Those same onerous ID laws that require you to get a license before you can drive. We saw how well that went.
JanBic Premium Member over 9 years ago
Voter id is not the problem. It is a must to prevent voter fraud. The problem is making it easy for every one to get ID
Randallw over 9 years ago
Here in Australia you don’t need a voter Id. You just go in, give your name, and they cross your name off a list. Of course it’s illegal not to vote. I also don’t see why you need a fancy machine. Just mark your ballot for who you want.
wcorvi over 9 years ago
At one time, all that was needed to cross our border was a voter registration card. At that time, a LOT of people were getting them illegally, for some odd reason.
Liverlips McCracken Premium Member over 9 years ago
The concept of Voter fraud is itself a fraud. Dubya’s Justice Department studied it for 8 years and found bupkes. These Voter ID laws are a solution in search of a problem.
jackhs over 9 years ago
Voter ID must be required. You have months, even years to do it. Get it done. It’s easy unless you are stupid.
shanen0 over 9 years ago
He didn’t say enough about the gerrymandering, where the pols pick the voters they want instead of vice versa. Modern tech is especially good at maximizing the wasted votes of the opposing party while discouraging ALL of the voters from even bothering, since the winner is already determined when the district is gerrymandered. The House of so-called Representatives is firmly controlled by the neo-GOP even though they got LESS votes.
Claire Jordan over 9 years ago
Here in the UK the government keeps a list of voters’ addresses, and a few weeks before the election they post a voting card to your address, and then you take it to the polling booth and they cross you off a list for the area. If you forget your card, they cross you off anyway. I think we had about three false votes in the whole of the most recent election.
SKJAM! Premium Member over 9 years ago
Indeed, and the modern Democrats repudiate their ancestors’ bigoted acts at every opportunity. When Republicans have to reach back to 1964 or so for the last time they were the party of civil rights, it’s a sad decline.
Mugens Premium Member over 9 years ago
And those same Democrats from the 60’s, 50’s, 40’s and before are all now Republicans who are trying to do what they could so easily get away with before. Preventing a lot of non-white male persons the right to vote. Give up the “Fox News” talking point…
Liam Astle Premium Member over 9 years ago
No! Not Voter I.D.! Blacks are incapable of filling out the applications to get either a driver’s license or a state i.d. card.
RayThomas101 over 9 years ago
Requiring ID to vote is NOT “inhibiting voting.” It is NECESSARY to keep people from voting more than once. Anybody who thinks differently is a fool. It’s such a basic thing it shouldn’t even be an issue. They haven’t found a lot of voter fraud because they aren’t looking, since the lookers are the guilty ones.
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
It is the photo requirement that causes a problem, not just ID, since many of the poor, elderly, minorities, and students don’t drive. On the other hand, some places allow a gun permit as ID but not a student ID. Interesting. In California, they are starting to automatically register people who get a driver’s license, though you don’t have to have a driver license to vote. All comics are not funny, some are just enlightening.
Kip W over 9 years ago
It’s a problem so grave that with only several dozen instances on record, steps must be taken that will keep a thousands of non-GOP voters away from the polls.
Sounds like a feature rather than a bug, for the Republicans.
Ken Pribyla Premium Member over 9 years ago
Tired old trope by elitist know-it-alls who really don’t care for the Republic.
Bikebrains over 9 years ago
Keeping an election honest is a critical national issue because a government that is elected by a questionable election is, by definition, a questionable government. For the last 68 years I have lived near Chicago. As a child I started reading Mike Royko. He wrote countless stories about voter fraud, dead people voting, people voting using an empty lot as a home address. I was told a story about a fellow employee’s relative who was so opposed to the election of Harold Washington that he drove to Chicago from his home in the suburbs and voted against Harold Washington. Vote early and vote often is the election motto of Chicago. While voting in an election in Kane County Illinois, I saw a person use two forms of identification that had conflicting names on the forms. He was allowed to vote. As for registering to vote 50 years ago, well I do not even remember it so it must not have been difficult. I do remember registering for the draft as though it was yesterday. As for voting today, I present my voter’s registration card and carry other forms of identification as required by election law. Between elections I store my voter’s registration card in my desk. When I have moved, I used the change of address form on the voter’s registration card. Easy-peasy
JeNagVaz over 9 years ago
This is last years’s news, and addressing it now with a sledge hammer is NOT AMUSING in a Sunday morning strip. Yes, it is relevant and very important, but only the “choir” appreciates that. This particular member of that choir doesn’t like today’s strip.
BE THIS GUY over 9 years ago
Nobody should have to go through this much trouble just so they can vote.
Kenneth Books Premium Member over 9 years ago
Typical left-wing revisionism. Here’s some actual history. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a Republican measure, roundly opposed by the Democrats, some of whom, such as Byrd, had been Ku Klux Klan officials. Every segregationist governor in the old South was a Democrat. Every one of them. Now, of course, the liberals, having done nothing to help blacks out of their spiral toward single mothers, black-on-black violence and crime, pretend to be their champions, at least until after the votes are counted. But Republicans, those evil scum, actually want folks to prove they’re American citizens before they can vote to determine the direction of the country.
alangwatkins over 9 years ago
Voter ID’s may make it difficult, but not impossible to vote. They do however make it nearly impossible to stuff ballets.
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
Unfortunately, this is NOT yesterday’s news. It is very much still a problem. The reality is that many people do not drive for many reasons and yes, this would make it difficult for them to get a photo ID. Many poor people can’t afford cars. Many elderly can’t drive anymore due to disability. Many students don’t drive due to the fact that they are in a different state and living on campus.Those who have the most power in this situation always scream the loudest, however, per usual.
Warren Wubker over 9 years ago
Apparently it hasn’t dawned on the dimwit cartoonist that the rules affect everyone and not just particular groups.
Carol69 over 9 years ago
Do you want people that are too ignorant, too lazy or too incompetent to obtain a I.D., find a voting booth or get aabsentee ballot to elect your next president ??? OOH, been there done that.
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
Talk about revisionist history! The Democrats had some bigots, yes. Then along came LBJ, who was the biggest proponent of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, who famously said, “The Democratic Party just lost the South for a generation.” when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 went through.LBJ was wrong, the Democrats lost the South from that point on, apparently. I seem to remember some folks called the Kennedys and many others who were BIG proponents of civil rights. I also know that the GOP had and still has it’s share of bigots!!! After LBJ, the South shifted to the GOP. George Wallace ran as an Independent in 1968 and many southerners either voted for Wallace or Tricky Dicky Nixon. This is very OLD news.
vwdualnomand over 9 years ago
our voting laws are so screwed up, it makes other places look like efficient societies. We do want people to vote, but vote for the person that interests want. If we find a group of people who historically vote for this party and a major bloc, we suppress it with shenanigans. We gerrymander districts. We demonize a bloc of voters as un-patriotic and evil. Some people want a return of the poll tax, literacy test, civics test, etc… Some others want only caucasian(english ancestry), protestant(evangelical) christian, property owners, male and over the age of 35 are eligible to vote.
victoria2 over 9 years ago
In the 1970s I was working in a long term care facility. At voting time, ward heelers would come with absentee ballots and go as visitors to the rooms. Most of the people had not kept up with politics. They asked the ward heeler who they should vote for and he told them. I had just started voting and was naive enough to view it as a sacred duty. I thought what the ward heeler was doing was disgusting and asked what he did with the few ballots that did not have his preferred candidate on them. He told me to mind my own business. There is still voter fraud. I think it can be more sophisticated with electronic voting. I have moved around the country and voted in 4 different states in my life. I have always been required to show ID or a document that proved I lived within the district in which I was voting. All of a sudden this is not necessary because too many people do not have ID? You need ID to apply for welfare so the reason of financial hardship in obtaining ID will not wash.The only reason to not require it is to allow those not eligible to vote, to be able to vote, and, as dukedoug said, vote often, and in various precincts, and maybe even cross state lines to vote. Who would this benefit? Only those that have a vested interest in fraudulent voting.
cgrantt57 Premium Member over 9 years ago
We used to say, “If voting could change anything, they’d make it illegal.”
Well, guess what, they sho’ ‘nuff workin’ on it.
38lowell over 9 years ago
BS!!
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
Again, it is not simply about obtaining an ID. Usually, it is about getting a photo ID, as in a driver’s license. I would like to see even those who have no driver’s license be able to vote. As an example, my mother, who is 93, no longer drives. She taught Kindergarten for many decades. However, she cannot and should not drive. I would like to see a more representative democracy, which includes poor, elderly, college students, etc. Some of the GOP have even stated openly that they know they won their elections due to messing around with the voting requirements. It is truly disgusting.
wnbresn over 9 years ago
Odd how a state has no problem with voter fraud but then when the republicans think they might loose the majority in the poor districts they make up a need for a law that was never needed before … hmmmm
Liam Astle Premium Member over 9 years ago
Liberals need to find some way to keep the unenlightened Conservatives from voting.
dmk57 over 9 years ago
Up here in the Great White North we have revamped our voter ID laws to the detriment of what may be up to 100000 voters, or more. Our Fair Election Act is our version of Jim Crow, and a lot of us are pi…, er, miffed.
goweeder over 9 years ago
“Voter ID is not racist… nice try, but it just reminds me that dems want everyone to stay on the plantation…~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~.This Dem didn’t even know that any plantations still existed; I thought all the farming had been taken over by mega-corporations (that are willing to hire anyone, black or white, and pay them starvation wages).Tnaks for bringing me up to date.
OhioMike over 9 years ago
Jim Crow is and always be the property of the left. The same for voter fraud. Must be nice to spread lies and demo propaganda and get paid well for it, and in the funny papers, no less.
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
As a Democrat myself, I would like to see a truly representative democracy, with as many as possible who are eligible to vote, voting. That is not the way it is. Many of the working poor certainly do not vote, nor do many college students or elderly people. I would like to see far more people voting who are eligible to vote, however it falls. More people should be voting. If more people were voting and they voted for the GOP, who supports the super wealthy and mega corporations and does not look out for the rest of us, fine. So be it. Otherwise, no, it is not OK.
drivera462 Premium Member over 9 years ago
1. There is no voter fraud except in conservatives’ minds. Obama didn’t win TWICE because of voter fraud. The ONLY reason they want voter ID is to prevent people from voting for Democrats.2. I live in Illinois. I don’t need an ID for the general election. They compare my signature with the one on file. I can also vote for 3 weeks before the election, from 7a-7p, 7 days a week.3. Oregon has voting by mail.4. We need mandatory registration for free and mandatory voting. But that’s the last thing the right wants.
David_J Premium Member over 9 years ago
Jim Crow indeed. The only “problem” that the hateful lot of tighty righties are trying to solve is how to stop people from voting for the Democratic Party.
Godfreydaniel over 9 years ago
Vote early! Vote often!This election dayVote early! Vote often!The American WayVote early! Vote often!And the Force even mayBe with you (though doubtful)This election day
IN FACT:
Considering the tone ofAlmost all of the debateI’d like to draw and quarterEvery single candidate!
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
LBJ was responsible for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and sacrificed votes for the Democratic Party because of this. He knew this would happen and it did. LBJ was a Democrat. No one is saying there should be no voter ID. Rather, it should not be all about whether or not one has a driver’s license. It is true that many poor, elderly and college students do NOT have cars. It is also true that many of those groups tend to vote Democratic. LBJ is ancient history, by the way. Personally, I have no memory of him. I know him from reading about him and hearing about him. Unfortunately, the first prez I can remember was Tricky Dicky Nixon. This does not mean that I think I know any less about LBJ than the average person. One doesn’t have to have experienced the French Revolution to know that it took place.
Darryl Heine over 9 years ago
Jimmy Crow is better than Mr. Buts.
lgilbert50 over 9 years ago
Its funny that all these voting restrictions were made by republicans claiming that they prevent voter fraud and yet when investigated they found little or no fraud. They were put there to deny a segment of citizens the vote. Here the jack boots in the background it is becoming downright scary.
kaffekup over 9 years ago
What nobody has mentioned yet is that, in requiring a solution to a nonexistent problem, republicans are admitting they can’t win on their pathetic ideas.
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
Recent comments by Republicans about voter suppression:Christie: Same day voter registration is a “trick” and GOP needs to win gubernatorial races so they control “voting mechanisms.”Fran Millar, Georgia Senator: Millar complained about polling place being too convenient for black voters.Doug Preis, Ohio GOP chair:" We shouldn’t accommodate the urban— read African American— voter turnout machine."Greg Abbott: Partisan districting decisions are legal, even if there are “incidental effects” on minority voters.Ted Yoho, congressman of Florida: “I’ve got some radical ideas about voting and it’s probably not a good idea to tell them, but you used to have to be a property owner to vote” and he called early voting by absentee ballots a travesty.Don Yelton, North Carolina GOP precinct chair: Voter ID law will “kick Democrats in the butt” and “hurt lazy blacks.” There are also many other examples of interesting comments by the GOP concerning this issue.
Catherine Spencer-Mills Premium Member over 9 years ago
Vote by mail – the entire state of Oregon. We get voter pamphlets in the mail a couple of weeks before the ballots show up. Fill out, mail in. Early is fine. There is a hard deadline, and there are places where you can drop off your ballot. Fraud? How? Those who are registered to vote receive the ballot at their home address. If you want to discuss with friends and family, fine, if you don’t want, fine. They are considering automatic registration when you get your driver’s license. Great idea. And no, not everyone votes. Your choice. (To get a driver’s license, you have to show amazing amounts of id anymore – such as a passport and your old license or two-three other ids. It’s a pain in the neck, but it surely reduces chance of fraud.)
mpguy2 over 9 years ago
I hope not, c davies. I have always admired Canadians for their good judgment and common sense. Canada is an excellent example that the U. S. should try to emulate in many ways. Let’s hope that continues. I’m betting that it will.
OhioMike over 9 years ago
Here’e an oldie but goodie from 2001. Dem caught with Votomatic in his car trunk:According to a police report filed at the Palm Beach County sheriff’s office and obtained by ABCNEWS, Irving Slosberg, 53, pulled the mechanism from his car and handed it over to police on Nov. 11 after denying to a county government employee that he had it.I got dozens more, but they’re all dems caught in the act of vote fraud.
milt3726 over 9 years ago
It’s obvious you need an education:mocrats
Democrats fought to expand slavery while Republicans fought to end it.Democrats passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws.Democrats fought to keep blacks in slavery and away from the polls, and they started the Clan to terrorize them.Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia is well known for having been a “Keagle” in the Clan.Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.Democrats passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans.Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Clan, Sen. Hugo Black, Democrat of Alabama.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Clan in Kansas City in 1922.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Republican efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.Democrat public safety commissioner Eugene “Bull” Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.Democrats were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.Democrat Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.Democrat Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.Democrat Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.Democrat President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.Democrat President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.Democrat President Bill Clinton’s mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Democrat and a supporter of racial segregation.Democrat President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.What have the Democrats ever done for Blacks or Hispanics?route66paul over 9 years ago
Voter fraud is a problem with certain local elections, but it is very hard to believe that one group can get enough fraudalant votes to overturn a national election. I am sure that the fraud would be 2 sided and would cancel out the other.
How could they get the millions of votes needed to assure an election?
Kirk Barnes Premium Member over 9 years ago
Bored.
kaylowe over 9 years ago
OH, puh-leeez. Get these same people a $25 check and see how fast they get some form of ID to cash it. You freaking liberals are so ridiculous.
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member over 9 years ago
Trudeau never lets up. And I hope he never does.
meillered over 9 years ago
He’s not in an explaining mood lately.
Tarredandfeathered over 9 years ago
There is a Simple Fix for That Problem:.A Binding choice for “None of the Above” in Every Race in Every Election.Any candidate who Loses to “None of the Above” would be Barred from running for that office in a Special Election to be held as soon as New Candidates could be certified for the vacant office.
Argythree over 9 years ago
Where is your proof that Trudeau hates Jews?
BE THIS GUY over 9 years ago
Read the article.
Argythree over 9 years ago
Not all of the states that require a photo ID to vote are southern states, so characterizing this situation as a return of the old Jim Crow laws isnt’ accurate.
According to the Ballotpedia website, as of April 2015, 17 states require a photo ID that is usually a government issued ID. Indiana, Kansas and Michigan are among those states, and, last I checked, they weren’t part of the south.
Here’s an interesting thought. There was an amendment to the US Constitution that prevented states from keeping people from voting if did not pay a poll tax ‘or a similar tax’. If states are requiring people to pay for photo IDs for use in voting, is this not a violation of the Bill of Rights? Where is a public spirited lawyer willing to take on a pro bono case to argue this point before the Supremes?
BE THIS GUY over 9 years ago
I think, Ather just beat jeff cartwright for that award you were giving out.
plusaf over 9 years ago
So the disadvantaged need help so they don’t get shut out of registering to vote, right?
And they won’t have any similar problem showing up at the voting booth in the future?!
Doesn’t everyone in India have a voter registration card? Aren’t there ‘more of them there’ than ‘here’? So why is it a problem for US and not for the citizens of India?
Go figure… or think about the answer before you give your ‘answer’…
caligula over 9 years ago
Actually this latest round of voter suppression laws should be called “informed crow”. Since those who really read them would be eating some. Nothing wrong with the incompetent illiterate and uninformed voting at the polls, afterall, their, er “form votes” are counted just like everyone else’s informed votes.
jrfranks over 9 years ago
The DMV here (in NC, USA) issues a non-driving picture ID to those who are not driving. With proper documentation, easily produced if you have Medicaid (welfare), the ID is free. So, get up off your gluteus maximus and get it. Ya needed ID to get your Medicaid, didn’t ya?!
BE THIS GUY over 9 years ago
Because of the focus on the ID issue, most commentators have not mentioned other steps that have been taken to make voting more difficult. Cutting back early voting, especially on the weekend making it harder for working people. Limiting the number of polling places.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 9 years ago
“Felony records created by white police departments”.Actually, police departments can’t give anyone a felony record..But we may as well let convicted felons vote anyway, even in prison. They have time to study the issues and candidates.