Just wondering from his “time to stand up for ourselves” comment if the wolves have a legitimate complaint or if they are being like the white supremacists who fantasize that they are victims that other human beings aren’t white.
So it still seems to be only antagonism between “wolves” and “pigs”. Other mutant types seem to be only indirectly involved, possibly supporting one side or the other. What the heck has mayor jackrabbit done?
One intriguing thing about this is that the Endtown residents are more fully identifying with their morphed forms. He’s referring to himself as wolf instead of man. Not everyone, however. Walt commented to Portia that she made a good pig and she mentioned her inner voice screaming in protest at the thought. Definite “us” vs. “them” dynamics going on and more than just two sides if the wolves weren’t responsible for the vandalism.
This conversation indicates that we may be mistaken about who’s persecuting who. If pig factions are trying to eliminate the wolves, as these two seem to think, then the wolves are fighting the pigs in defense and protest. When Hoss attacked the wolf for her words in defiance, apparently, toward the pig customer, the wolf fought back probably thinking the pig would be coming after her. These wolves’ harassment of Portia may have been an act of defiance as well, if they thought she had joined the political piggies, who apparently have been pressuring Portia to join them against the wolves.
Marx, Sparkplug, the Lucranians, and the Topsiders are the only ones truly immune because they haven’t been exposed to the mutating agent. The other humans apparently mutated into themselves.
If the agent isn’t a virus, and it acts on exposure to the air, then a good vector would be a gas. Someone could have developed a Terrigen Mist that turns people into cartoon characters instead of Inhumans with powers. But then Marx and the Lucranians should be affected…
Or maybe it’s a binary effect of Amesworth radiation exposure interacting with exposure to the agent, but it needs both. Most people who survived the End were exposed to the radiation, which is no longer ambient, but its effects remain in their bodies. Topsiders haven’t been exposed to the agent, but when they are, they mutate. Sparkplug counteracted the radiation, so when exposed to the agent, it had no effect. Extradimensionals like Marx and the Lucranians haven’t been exposed to the radiation, so the agent would have no effect. The agent could be a virus after all, but Edmund wouldn’t know it because it’s harmless without the radiation and its captain wasn’t irradiated. Fox Marx was apparently exposed to both, but if the Marxes know about the interaction, they’re not saying.
I’m thinking along with douglasdao: the wolves represent old white guys who feel persecuted because they’ve never gotten to protest about being a persecuted minority. The pigs represent blacks/Muslims/Jews/Japanese/atheists/wiccans/Mexicans/non-whites.
If the wolves have a legitimate complaint we are being manipulated and even cheated by Mr. Neathery – we have been given no evidence of such a legitimate complaint, and we are well past the point when it should have been introduced. Suspense is one thing, manipulation of our understanding of the situation is another altogether.
this feels like a fight that doesn’t need to be fought…I’m pretty sure the way to end racism isn’t driving the other race extinct, they’ll end up like that infanticidal lizard town
Reply to GATOCATCAT and ROBERTA.FLORES.PYLE above, and the list of people discriminated against. Roberta added women. And I added: Fat people! Furthermore, an interesting coincidence? We are dealing, for the moment, with two wolves. One of the more popular for-profit weight loss dieting clubs has for initials: WW!
This is the obvious result of Jacob’s “mutant acceptance”. Inter-species rivalry and competition for resources. Instead of maintaining the idea of their common inner humanity, they are falling victim to a tyranny of appearance. They are ceasing to be strange looking people and “accepting” that they are wolves, bears, cats, dogs and pigs. Sounds good for those at the top, but what happens to the predators when the prey is all gone? Just ask a carnivourous dinosaur. Oh wait, you can’t, cause they’re all DEAD. Quintessential dead end. (Pun most certainly intended.) ;-)
mr_sherman Premium Member over 7 years ago
@ BAARORSO: Read it again. They didn’t do it. They just liked the results.
Robert Nowall Premium Member over 7 years ago
Identity politics. It’s a curse.
Grey Light over 7 years ago
And the plot thickens.
WorldFusionRadio.com over 7 years ago
Just wondering from his “time to stand up for ourselves” comment if the wolves have a legitimate complaint or if they are being like the white supremacists who fantasize that they are victims that other human beings aren’t white.
RickD Premium Member over 7 years ago
So it still seems to be only antagonism between “wolves” and “pigs”. Other mutant types seem to be only indirectly involved, possibly supporting one side or the other. What the heck has mayor jackrabbit done?
Kyneris Premium Member over 7 years ago
One intriguing thing about this is that the Endtown residents are more fully identifying with their morphed forms. He’s referring to himself as wolf instead of man. Not everyone, however. Walt commented to Portia that she made a good pig and she mentioned her inner voice screaming in protest at the thought. Definite “us” vs. “them” dynamics going on and more than just two sides if the wolves weren’t responsible for the vandalism.
citr92 over 7 years ago
This seems to be a self inflicted victimization thing going on. Just what they need, another made up problem.
Oh joy…
StOP bEfoRE iT’s ToO LaTE!!
Vet Premium Member over 7 years ago
Animal Farm……Endtown style! Every one is equal but some are more equal than others.
Coyoty Premium Member over 7 years ago
This conversation indicates that we may be mistaken about who’s persecuting who. If pig factions are trying to eliminate the wolves, as these two seem to think, then the wolves are fighting the pigs in defense and protest. When Hoss attacked the wolf for her words in defiance, apparently, toward the pig customer, the wolf fought back probably thinking the pig would be coming after her. These wolves’ harassment of Portia may have been an act of defiance as well, if they thought she had joined the political piggies, who apparently have been pressuring Portia to join them against the wolves.
Coyoty Premium Member over 7 years ago
About the mutations…
Marx, Sparkplug, the Lucranians, and the Topsiders are the only ones truly immune because they haven’t been exposed to the mutating agent. The other humans apparently mutated into themselves.
If the agent isn’t a virus, and it acts on exposure to the air, then a good vector would be a gas. Someone could have developed a Terrigen Mist that turns people into cartoon characters instead of Inhumans with powers. But then Marx and the Lucranians should be affected…
Or maybe it’s a binary effect of Amesworth radiation exposure interacting with exposure to the agent, but it needs both. Most people who survived the End were exposed to the radiation, which is no longer ambient, but its effects remain in their bodies. Topsiders haven’t been exposed to the agent, but when they are, they mutate. Sparkplug counteracted the radiation, so when exposed to the agent, it had no effect. Extradimensionals like Marx and the Lucranians haven’t been exposed to the radiation, so the agent would have no effect. The agent could be a virus after all, but Edmund wouldn’t know it because it’s harmless without the radiation and its captain wasn’t irradiated. Fox Marx was apparently exposed to both, but if the Marxes know about the interaction, they’re not saying.
pam Miner over 7 years ago
I Wanted to read the 5 replies to Douglasdao, but tho I tried several times, they wouldn’t show up. Anybody else have a problem?
Ponyhome over 7 years ago
Persecution complex, much?
Diat60 over 7 years ago
Fairytale territory here with familiar characters and we all know who won that blowing contest.
gatocatcat over 7 years ago
I’m thinking along with douglasdao: the wolves represent old white guys who feel persecuted because they’ve never gotten to protest about being a persecuted minority. The pigs represent blacks/Muslims/Jews/Japanese/atheists/wiccans/Mexicans/non-whites.
gorgolo_chick over 7 years ago
If the wolves have a legitimate complaint we are being manipulated and even cheated by Mr. Neathery – we have been given no evidence of such a legitimate complaint, and we are well past the point when it should have been introduced. Suspense is one thing, manipulation of our understanding of the situation is another altogether.
yangeldf over 7 years ago
this feels like a fight that doesn’t need to be fought…I’m pretty sure the way to end racism isn’t driving the other race extinct, they’ll end up like that infanticidal lizard town
Cheapskate0 over 7 years ago
Reply to GATOCATCAT and ROBERTA.FLORES.PYLE above, and the list of people discriminated against. Roberta added women. And I added: Fat people! Furthermore, an interesting coincidence? We are dealing, for the moment, with two wolves. One of the more popular for-profit weight loss dieting clubs has for initials: WW!
Robert Nowall Premium Member over 7 years ago
What does this guy think Portia has against wolves?
DADOF3 over 7 years ago
This is the obvious result of Jacob’s “mutant acceptance”. Inter-species rivalry and competition for resources. Instead of maintaining the idea of their common inner humanity, they are falling victim to a tyranny of appearance. They are ceasing to be strange looking people and “accepting” that they are wolves, bears, cats, dogs and pigs. Sounds good for those at the top, but what happens to the predators when the prey is all gone? Just ask a carnivourous dinosaur. Oh wait, you can’t, cause they’re all DEAD. Quintessential dead end. (Pun most certainly intended.) ;-)