Conservatives are bashing idealistic student protestors and painting them all by the broad brush dipped into the small pot of the most extreme. Flashback.
Most of the protestors are sincerely concerned about the suffering of the Gaza population. Some get carried away. That’s not unexpected. Moderation is difficult for youth. I understand that far more than the radicalism that infects the MAGA crowd.
There’s copious evidence that in many of the places where there’s violence, window-smashing, and arrests, anywhere from half to two-thirds of those arrested are not students or university-connected. In other words, outside agitators. There’s evidence of groups ranging from Proud Boys and white supremacists to dark groups the FBI has been following who have ties to Russia, Iran, Turkey, and the radical (Hamas) Palestinians.
Those of us who were out in the streets in the 50s, 60s, 70s knew that the people most aggressively pushing for smashing stuff, assaulting cops, etc. were likely to be undercover cops or right-wing interlopers. It doesn’t sound like today’s students understand that dynamic, or that they had the kind of preparation and discipline that one would want before doing civil disobedience. They also don’t understand that civil disobedience theory includes packing the jails and show trials — and seem outraged by the potential for arrests and other punishments. And in many places, including Columbia, the list of demands was a laundry list of generalized grievances, most unconnected to the university — if you announce loudly that you’re going to stay there doing your disruptive thing until there’s a permanent cease-fire and a functional Palestinian state, you’re allowing Hamas and Likud to control your movement. No university is going to tolerate that.
“Jews will not replace us,” demonstrators chanted at the Unite the Right rally organized by armed white nationalists in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, to stop the removal of a statue dedicated to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.
Heather D. Heyer, a 32-year-old paralegal from Charlottesville, was killed, and 35 others were wounded when a 20-year-old neo-Nazi, James Alex Fields, intentionally drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters during the rally.
“In its simplest and most straightforward interpretation,” she explained, “that chant can be understood to say Jews will not replace ‘us,’ i.e., white Christians in our job or our dominant place in society. We as whites will remain the dominant and supreme force in society.”
She also pointed to a “subtler but deeply ideological meaning to this chant,” rooted in the fear referred to by white nationalists as the “great replacement” or “white genocide.” The Charlottesville chant is expressing centuries-old fears that Jews, in league with peoples of color, are engaged in a nefarious plot to destroy the white Christian civilization.
David Lane, a white supremacist convicted, among other crimes, of conspiring in the 1984 machine-gun assassination of the Jewish talk-radio host Alan Berg in Denver, did much to publicize this idea. “The Western nations,” he wrote, “were ruled by a Zionist conspiracy … [that] above all things wants to exterminate the White Aryan race.”
His 14-word goal, today a central plank of white nationalist ideology, declares that “we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.”
Alex Linder, a neo-Nazi who operates the racist website the Vanguard News Network, has written that Jews merely pretend to be white “in order to shame, discredit, blame, mock, harass and otherwise discomfit and discredit white people and the white race.”
’It’s about time’: Charlie Kirk praises frat boy who made monkey noises at Black woman
Right-wing podcaster Charlie Kirk used his Monday program to praise a white fraternity member who was seen on video making monkey noises at a Black woman.
Well let’s remember for those who think this is all fun and games. The granny 60mm taken of campus riots from the 60s are nothing compared to the 1080 shots taken by cameras today, not just news cameras but security cameras. More of these kids are going to jail then they think.
In 2019 Texas Governor Abbot signed Senate Bill 18 which protected free speech on campus. Outdoor areas on campus are now free speech areas. Unless of course he does not like the free speech being excercised apparently.
Biggest mistake this country made was to pander to the children of the Viet Nam War era and pass the 26th Amendment allowing 18 year olds the right to vote and thus legitimize the drafting of 18 year olds. If they are old enough to fight they are old enough to vote. In retrospect, the sane thing to do was to raise the draft age to 21 so that full citizenship age men could make the decision to go to war or not. Pulling men away from family and career would have stopped the war sooner than universities full of petulant brats.
Kurtass Premium Member about 2 months ago
The guy with the black eye must be a proud boy outside agitator.
The Nodding Head about 2 months ago
Conservatives are bashing idealistic student protestors and painting them all by the broad brush dipped into the small pot of the most extreme. Flashback.
Most of the protestors are sincerely concerned about the suffering of the Gaza population. Some get carried away. That’s not unexpected. Moderation is difficult for youth. I understand that far more than the radicalism that infects the MAGA crowd.
brwydave Premium Member about 2 months ago
The message on your tee-shirt can hurt………….you.
dotbup about 2 months ago
There’s copious evidence that in many of the places where there’s violence, window-smashing, and arrests, anywhere from half to two-thirds of those arrested are not students or university-connected. In other words, outside agitators. There’s evidence of groups ranging from Proud Boys and white supremacists to dark groups the FBI has been following who have ties to Russia, Iran, Turkey, and the radical (Hamas) Palestinians.
Those of us who were out in the streets in the 50s, 60s, 70s knew that the people most aggressively pushing for smashing stuff, assaulting cops, etc. were likely to be undercover cops or right-wing interlopers. It doesn’t sound like today’s students understand that dynamic, or that they had the kind of preparation and discipline that one would want before doing civil disobedience. They also don’t understand that civil disobedience theory includes packing the jails and show trials — and seem outraged by the potential for arrests and other punishments. And in many places, including Columbia, the list of demands was a laundry list of generalized grievances, most unconnected to the university — if you announce loudly that you’re going to stay there doing your disruptive thing until there’s a permanent cease-fire and a functional Palestinian state, you’re allowing Hamas and Likud to control your movement. No university is going to tolerate that.
Ontman about 2 months ago
If Allie knew what he was talking about this cartoon would upset me. Clearly, he hasn’t a clue.
braindead Premium Member about 2 months ago
Allie again celebrates violence in a cartoon.
rs0204 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Are those depicted in the cartoon the same ones who screamed “Jews Will Not Replace Us” during Trump’s administration?
Radish the wordsmith about 2 months ago
“Jews will not replace us,” demonstrators chanted at the Unite the Right rally organized by armed white nationalists in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, to stop the removal of a statue dedicated to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.
Heather D. Heyer, a 32-year-old paralegal from Charlottesville, was killed, and 35 others were wounded when a 20-year-old neo-Nazi, James Alex Fields, intentionally drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters during the rally.
“In its simplest and most straightforward interpretation,” she explained, “that chant can be understood to say Jews will not replace ‘us,’ i.e., white Christians in our job or our dominant place in society. We as whites will remain the dominant and supreme force in society.”
She also pointed to a “subtler but deeply ideological meaning to this chant,” rooted in the fear referred to by white nationalists as the “great replacement” or “white genocide.” The Charlottesville chant is expressing centuries-old fears that Jews, in league with peoples of color, are engaged in a nefarious plot to destroy the white Christian civilization.
David Lane, a white supremacist convicted, among other crimes, of conspiring in the 1984 machine-gun assassination of the Jewish talk-radio host Alan Berg in Denver, did much to publicize this idea. “The Western nations,” he wrote, “were ruled by a Zionist conspiracy … [that] above all things wants to exterminate the White Aryan race.”
His 14-word goal, today a central plank of white nationalist ideology, declares that “we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.”
Alex Linder, a neo-Nazi who operates the racist website the Vanguard News Network, has written that Jews merely pretend to be white “in order to shame, discredit, blame, mock, harass and otherwise discomfit and discredit white people and the white race.”
Radish the wordsmith about 2 months ago
’It’s about time’: Charlie Kirk praises frat boy who made monkey noises at Black woman
Right-wing podcaster Charlie Kirk used his Monday program to praise a white fraternity member who was seen on video making monkey noises at a Black woman.
Jack7528 about 2 months ago
Great girl!
Jack7528 about 2 months ago
Well let’s remember for those who think this is all fun and games. The granny 60mm taken of campus riots from the 60s are nothing compared to the 1080 shots taken by cameras today, not just news cameras but security cameras. More of these kids are going to jail then they think.
My First Premium Member about 2 months ago
Democrats doing what they do best. Crying.
Plumb.Bob Premium Member about 2 months ago
In 2019 Texas Governor Abbot signed Senate Bill 18 which protected free speech on campus. Outdoor areas on campus are now free speech areas. Unless of course he does not like the free speech being excercised apparently.
BeniHanna6 Premium Member about 2 months ago
If these “protestors” are so noble, why do they cover their faces? They should be proud to show everyone who they are and what they stand for.
Ivan the Terrible about 2 months ago
Biggest mistake this country made was to pander to the children of the Viet Nam War era and pass the 26th Amendment allowing 18 year olds the right to vote and thus legitimize the drafting of 18 year olds. If they are old enough to fight they are old enough to vote. In retrospect, the sane thing to do was to raise the draft age to 21 so that full citizenship age men could make the decision to go to war or not. Pulling men away from family and career would have stopped the war sooner than universities full of petulant brats.
Al Fresco about 2 months ago
Typical symposium on campus. Nobody listens expect to themselves.
zerorest about 2 months ago
Who were the paid counter protesters that attacked the Columbia U protesters and who paid them?