There was an advantage to Latin: being a dead language, the meanings of the words did not change through usage over time. How those words get translated is another issue, but at least “the originals” (as they existed in the 4th century) were preserved.
The words spoken while facing the back were in the missal and were standard to every mass. Facing the back was because the priest was celebrating/worshiping “with” the congregation as opposed to “for” the congregation.
Parts aimed at the congregation, (readings, homily) were in the local language and the priest faced them directly.
I like the old Mass. But I can’t stand people who think that it’s objectively “more holy,” and it must the “right” one, simply because it’s the one they like. Some people like one; some people like the other. Some (like me) like both. But your preferences are NOT the word of God. Latin is just a language. God did not invent it, and it wasn’t even the original language of either the Scriptures OR the Mass.
From what I’ve read of/about Cardinal Burke, he is definitely old-school conservative in the liturgy/vestments department, but a decent sort. Not a stiff.Really, Pat, do you know anything about him other than that he’s a popular object of potshots from the liturgical “left”? Not exactly charitable. You could easily find a real jerk to go snipe at.
When I go to church, it’s not about what I like…it’s about what I feel. I feel the joy of being in HIS company, as in: Where 2 gather in my name, I shall be there.
I also love being in the company of my long dead parents. I can FEEL their presence.
I never learned Latin (public school) but having an English/Latin missal of the old Mass when attending – it’s not hard to follow and it’s very beautiful with the music. Actually not hard to pick up at all. And I even like the idea of a lovely lace veil.
We’re Episcopalian. You can tell who the ex-Catholics are at Christmas. When everyone else is singing “Oh come all ye faithful,” we’re singing “Adeste Fideles” – I think the song sounds better in Latin.
socalvillaguy Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Ah yes, I remember those days … a throwback to my childhood.
DanFlak almost 7 years ago
There was an advantage to Latin: being a dead language, the meanings of the words did not change through usage over time. How those words get translated is another issue, but at least “the originals” (as they existed in the 4th century) were preserved.
ireoftsubaki almost 7 years ago
The words spoken while facing the back were in the missal and were standard to every mass. Facing the back was because the priest was celebrating/worshiping “with” the congregation as opposed to “for” the congregation.
Parts aimed at the congregation, (readings, homily) were in the local language and the priest faced them directly.
Ignatz Premium Member almost 7 years ago
I like the old Mass. But I can’t stand people who think that it’s objectively “more holy,” and it must the “right” one, simply because it’s the one they like. Some people like one; some people like the other. Some (like me) like both. But your preferences are NOT the word of God. Latin is just a language. God did not invent it, and it wasn’t even the original language of either the Scriptures OR the Mass.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] almost 7 years ago
Seems to me they should be speaking Aramaic not Latin the language of the Roman Empire. But tha’s just my observation.
rmbdot almost 7 years ago
From what I’ve read of/about Cardinal Burke, he is definitely old-school conservative in the liturgy/vestments department, but a decent sort. Not a stiff.Really, Pat, do you know anything about him other than that he’s a popular object of potshots from the liturgical “left”? Not exactly charitable. You could easily find a real jerk to go snipe at.
masterchip almost 7 years ago
When I go to church, it’s not about what I like…it’s about what I feel. I feel the joy of being in HIS company, as in: Where 2 gather in my name, I shall be there.
I also love being in the company of my long dead parents. I can FEEL their presence.
Alicelth Premium Member almost 7 years ago
I never learned Latin (public school) but having an English/Latin missal of the old Mass when attending – it’s not hard to follow and it’s very beautiful with the music. Actually not hard to pick up at all. And I even like the idea of a lovely lace veil.
DanFlak almost 7 years ago
We’re Episcopalian. You can tell who the ex-Catholics are at Christmas. When everyone else is singing “Oh come all ye faithful,” we’re singing “Adeste Fideles” – I think the song sounds better in Latin.
oakie817 almost 7 years ago
most excellent
DanFlak almost 7 years ago
I like Alex Trebek’s comment, “Episcopalians are Catholics who failed Latin.”
JohnDidascalia almost 7 years ago
I can’t imagine what it’s like to be this un-woke. Who writes stupid crap like this? Talk about listening to yourself talk! Unreal, and Sad!