When thousands of Californians leave and all the homeless, illegals, and drug addicts more in, who will pay the $45B deficit. It won’t be Newsom or the Hollywood elite. It will be all those who stayed behinds rather than getting out when they had the chances. Just don’t bring your wacko ideas to my state.
Yeah, move to “low-tax” Texas. Yes, Texas has no personal income tax. But if you compare property tax rates there to those in states that have income taxes, you will see the problem with this. People on a fixed income fare better when income taxes are higher than property taxes because their income is static, whereas their property taxes rise with the value of the property they own. “Low-tax” states also rely heavily on sales taxes and user fees to fund things, so the poor pay a bigger share of their income.
California Democrats’ latest brilliant idea. Let’s make the minimum wage $20.00 hour. Results – Fast food employees laid off, so instead of making a more reasonable wage they are now on “unemployment”. Democrats – Don’t judge us on results. Judge us on our intentions.
There are much better places to go for fiscal stability …
Forty-six states ended the fiscal year on June 30. Below is a sampling of revenue totals from states that have published preliminary data for the full fiscal year and descriptions of how some states are using fiscal 2023 budget surpluses:
“California’s population increased by 67,000 in 2023, which is the first increase since 2019. The state’s population is now 39,128,162, and the increase is attributed to natural population growth and an increase in legal foreign immigration.”
Yeah, Gavin Newsome walked into office with a $97.5 billion surplus, now California has a $45 billion deficit. Way to go blue state Democrats. And the idiot left would happily vote for him as president.
No. It was the endless string of disasters – natural and manmade. Where will they go when Nevada runs out of water and they tire of hurricanes in Florida?
Lived in the Bay area back in the 1970s. California was and still is a beautiful state. Sadly the left leaning policies have ruined the cities. We last visited in 2021 and I almost cried when I saw the state San Francisco is in.
Well, Mississippi has the lowest cost of living, but it is also rated the worst state or 48th to live in. This crowing over emigration from California is petty politics. Population migrations have happened throughout our history. But heck. Go to Mississippi it’s only 25th in crime. And for you Ramirez fans for whom the last straw is the deficit, this country has an astronomical deficit. I wish you luck in wherever you move to.
Something to point out here. Look at what has happened in the states. If you look at a map of Washington state, Oregon, Colorado, and especially California you can see what the. Founding fathers had in mind with the Electoral College. Geographically most of these states are Republican but since but the population centers along the coast are Democratic most of these states do not have equal representation. In a national election California and New England would have a lock on the presidential vote. States like Wyoming would have no voice on a federal level. Thankfully it would be all but impossible to change this because it would take a constitutional amendment to do it, and each state has to vote on it. One state one vote. There are at least 30 states that would say not only NO but HELL NO!
The funny thing is that the latest index of places where house prices are still skyrocketing and those where house prices are falling show California is where people want to live and Florida, Arizona and Nevada are where house prices are falling.
5th largest economy in the world. Also the most populous state by a long shot. Name a resource and we are probably in the top 5 of states producing it. Unless you grow it yourself your ood comes in part ow completely rom Cali. Problems? Of course but we also lead the nation in solutions to deal with those problems. People are leaving in large part becuse our housing prices are high. The more a product is in demand the higher the price can go. I sure hope more people are leaving. It is too crowded here and fewer people here would bring down real estate prices.
Hello Everyone about 2 months ago
The Bears are moving out, so the Bulls are back in charge! That’s a Good Thing!
Al Fresco, the Librarian about 2 months ago
When thousands of Californians leave and all the homeless, illegals, and drug addicts more in, who will pay the $45B deficit. It won’t be Newsom or the Hollywood elite. It will be all those who stayed behinds rather than getting out when they had the chances. Just don’t bring your wacko ideas to my state.
braindead Premium Member about 2 months ago
For MAGAts, ALL regulation is overregulation.
Just like ALL government spending is wasteful.
VegaAlopex about 2 months ago
So they are leaving for other states, only to find out that the services they want don’t exist.
Johncom about 2 months ago
Think of it as bleeding to death.
Quixotic1 about 2 months ago
Perhaps California should stop sending federal tax dollars to those freeloader red states.
Gent about 2 months ago
When theengs is gets unbearable ya can bears it no more.
DC Swamp about 2 months ago
Californians leave there and export their leftist ideology. You can’t bring there here without here becoming there.
cracker65 about 2 months ago
I don’t know why the magats hate California. It’s basically what they want for the rest of the country. Rich getting richer the poor getting homeless.
Direwolf about 2 months ago
The only people “fleeing” California are the magats.
Dangerguy about 2 months ago
Yeah, move to “low-tax” Texas. Yes, Texas has no personal income tax. But if you compare property tax rates there to those in states that have income taxes, you will see the problem with this. People on a fixed income fare better when income taxes are higher than property taxes because their income is static, whereas their property taxes rise with the value of the property they own. “Low-tax” states also rely heavily on sales taxes and user fees to fund things, so the poor pay a bigger share of their income.
Jack7528 about 2 months ago
Well does a Bear $H!T in the woods.
My First Premium Member about 2 months ago
California Democrats’ latest brilliant idea. Let’s make the minimum wage $20.00 hour. Results – Fast food employees laid off, so instead of making a more reasonable wage they are now on “unemployment”. Democrats – Don’t judge us on results. Judge us on our intentions.
superposition about 2 months ago
There are much better places to go for fiscal stability …
Forty-six states ended the fiscal year on June 30. Below is a sampling of revenue totals from states that have published preliminary data for the full fiscal year and descriptions of how some states are using fiscal 2023 budget surpluses:
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budgetblog .nasbo .org/blogs/brian-sigritz/2023/08/01/most-states-end-fiscal-2023-with-a-budget-surplus
Radish the wordsmith about 2 months ago
Like .0001% of the population of the 39 million population of California is leaving.
Right wingers never mention the people leaving Texas, Florida and Nevada leaving to go to California.
A few years ago 22,000 people moved from California to Texas, that same year 22,000 moved from miserable Texas to California.
Havel about 2 months ago
And the population trend may be flipping:
“California’s population increased by 67,000 in 2023, which is the first increase since 2019. The state’s population is now 39,128,162, and the increase is attributed to natural population growth and an increase in legal foreign immigration.”
Ivan the Terrible about 2 months ago
If the trend continues, Mr. Ramirez, California will be down to 3 House representatives in the next census.
ChristopherBurns about 2 months ago
California has 39,000,000 people. It lost something like 125,000 people to migration to other places. At that rate it will take 312 years to be empty.
ShadowMaster about 2 months ago
Florida is likely not a great choice either.
VoodooMom about 2 months ago
The Florida Fuhrer, Con DeSatan, has ensured that Florida is Where Freedom Goes to Die, so you might want to remove it as a destination of choice.
Kracklin Rosie - “Tolo Dan Nan Galad” Premium Member about 2 months ago
Yeah, Gavin Newsome walked into office with a $97.5 billion surplus, now California has a $45 billion deficit. Way to go blue state Democrats. And the idiot left would happily vote for him as president.
Another Take about 2 months ago
No. It was the endless string of disasters – natural and manmade. Where will they go when Nevada runs out of water and they tire of hurricanes in Florida?
BeniHanna6 Premium Member about 2 months ago
Lived in the Bay area back in the 1970s. California was and still is a beautiful state. Sadly the left leaning policies have ruined the cities. We last visited in 2021 and I almost cried when I saw the state San Francisco is in.
Retrac Premium Member about 2 months ago
Does California have high taxes?
Does a bear p**p in the woods?
cwg about 2 months ago
Maybe it was all the feminists wanting to sleep with him.
rmike7842 about 2 months ago
Well, Mississippi has the lowest cost of living, but it is also rated the worst state or 48th to live in. This crowing over emigration from California is petty politics. Population migrations have happened throughout our history. But heck. Go to Mississippi it’s only 25th in crime. And for you Ramirez fans for whom the last straw is the deficit, this country has an astronomical deficit. I wish you luck in wherever you move to.
Li'l Dale about 2 months ago
So those blue voters in red states turn things purple? OH BOY!
Wonder-Wart-Hog about 2 months ago
Something to point out here. Look at what has happened in the states. If you look at a map of Washington state, Oregon, Colorado, and especially California you can see what the. Founding fathers had in mind with the Electoral College. Geographically most of these states are Republican but since but the population centers along the coast are Democratic most of these states do not have equal representation. In a national election California and New England would have a lock on the presidential vote. States like Wyoming would have no voice on a federal level. Thankfully it would be all but impossible to change this because it would take a constitutional amendment to do it, and each state has to vote on it. One state one vote. There are at least 30 states that would say not only NO but HELL NO!
Ignatz Premium Member about 2 months ago
California is the 5th largest economy in the world. Bigger economy than England or France. One state.
Mississippi…well…isn’t.
The Dem Veteran about 2 months ago
I am really afraid of what the republican plan for homelessness is.
Does it involve Zyklon ?
zerorest about 2 months ago
No it was the lack of affordable housing.
Mi-Tasol about 2 months ago
The funny thing is that the latest index of places where house prices are still skyrocketing and those where house prices are falling show California is where people want to live and Florida, Arizona and Nevada are where house prices are falling.
Plumb.Bob Premium Member about 2 months ago
5th largest economy in the world. Also the most populous state by a long shot. Name a resource and we are probably in the top 5 of states producing it. Unless you grow it yourself your ood comes in part ow completely rom Cali. Problems? Of course but we also lead the nation in solutions to deal with those problems. People are leaving in large part becuse our housing prices are high. The more a product is in demand the higher the price can go. I sure hope more people are leaving. It is too crowded here and fewer people here would bring down real estate prices.
mousefumanchu Premium Member about 2 months ago
Couldn’t pay me to go to CA.