I was surprised by how bad Biden did in the debate, but I still prefer him over Trump. What I don’t think is that there is anyone that can replace him this late in the game and still win.
Not a good night for either of them, but I’m sticking with the guy with the good record and not the pathological liar with the criminal convictions who wants to overturn democracy.
The long-standing problem with Dems is lacking a spine to stand up against the Repubs. Convicted felon who incessantly lies keeps being supported by Repubs including those in government that choose money and power over representing the people. Hoarse voice and a couple of flubs and too many Dems want to run and hide. “Woke” is the most ridiculous insult; can’t understand those that think being asleep should get any attention is silly.
Al Franken should not have resigned. If President Biden drops put, all you will hear from Repubs and the RW will be false bleating against Dems and them praising the “greatness” (YUCK) of Trump.
We are electing a team and an agenda, not a single combat warrior. We are talking Death Valley (trump) vs. Everest (Biden) in terms of competence and effectiveness of their team and agenda. Trump rode Obama’s economy, the same way Bush rode Clinton’s. Biden pulled us out of the trump catastrophe and we have outperformed the world by 2-3x with regards to opportunity and growth, so it is small wonder everyone wants to come here, legally or not.
You can’t really blame President Biden’s demeanor for having to waste time debating a convicted felon over things that orange embarrassment couldn’t understand. At the rally, the President was able to be himself and relate to the American people he actually cares about.
Fair weather Democrats need to calm the f*** down. Traitor trump must be defeated. President Joe Biden is the one to take that POS felon a** down. Vote Joe! Vote for democracy!
As long as Biden is president, I’m not worried at all.
My first thought at the beginning of the debate was, what bad luck for Biden having a cold right now. He also made the mistake of preparing for a debate with a reasonable human being. It’s hard to debate someone who ignores the questions, lies and talks nonsense.
I’d say no one won the debate and the Repubs should be terrified that they continue to back Traitor Felon Trump as a presidential candidate. The world won’t laugh at us for having an old president, but a known criminal and rapist, that’s a different story. It’s bad enough the USA had to suffer 4 years of failure under the traitor. Let’s not make that mistake again.
Biden surrounds himself with qualified people that he listens to. Traitor Trump surrounds himself with sycophants that will do whatever ridiculous thing he comes up with. Traitor Trump will bankrupt the nation, which will crash our economy worse than the Great Depression.
As a Democrat, I honestly can say that mild-to-severe panic by our party is de rigueur before every presidential election. The concern is particularly acute this year when the Mango Mussolini is warming up in the wings, getting ready to commit whatever heinous crimes he intends for his next term. Is Biden the strongest candidate we have? Of course not. Has he been uber-successful in his first term? Absolutely. So I understand the pearl-clutching, especially with even the pre-debate polls being so dicey, but calls for Biden to walk away after one bad debate is just dumb. Will we do it? In such a fraught election year, I think it’s possible. I’ll vote blue no matter who.
OK, Biden was awful. He is old and to be honest about it debating was never his strong point. And, it is difficult to produce proof of the fact that practically every thing Trump said was a lie. So, why am I still voting for Biden? Because his record includes:
Inherited worst unemployment and crashed economy in a hundred years and turned it around into unprecedented economic growth and success.
Dragged us out of covid epidemic that would have been much lees of a problem if Trump hadn’t dismantled the agency Obama set up to handle epidemics.
Believes in global warning and efforts to reduce the damage it will cause
Most jobs created of any first term president
Lower drug pricesLowest prolonged unemployment in 60 yearsBringing inflation down
Wage growth exceeds inflation
Capping credit card late fees and limiting junk fees in other businesses
Student loan forgivenessRecord stock market highsReduced annual budget deficit every yearPassed first bi-partisan gun legislation in thirty yearsBipartisan Infrastructure BillStrengthened relations with NATO and other allies
Delivered BIPARTISAN BORDER BILL before Trump ordered it blocked and obstructed so he could keep his top wedge issue unsolved and run on a problem that exists solely because of Trump.
Achieved all of this despite unprecedented Republican obstruction and despite having literally the narrowest possible Senate majority (50-50 in his first two years) and a vice president who set the all-time record for most tie-breaking votes in all of U.S. history.
BUT, NONE OF THESE ARE THE MAIN REASON I’M VOTING FOR HIM. THE MAIN REASON IS THAT HE ISN’T TRUMP.
This is EXACTLY how Republicans should feel about Trump, but that doesn’t work in the cult. Instead, they’ll back that serial philanderer, the one who cheated on his wife with a porn star and a nude model. The one who obstructed justice to cover up his national security violations and attempted to hold power illegally after being voted out of office. The one convicted of 34 felonies and faces 55 other counts in three cases. The one who is responsible for sexually assaulting a journalist, then defaming her. The one who ran a fake charity and fake training school, both since ordered closed. The one who defrauded the State of New York and has a nearly half-billion-dollar judgment against him.
But they’re not at all concerned. They love that guy.
Grow a spine Democrats. One bad performance and you are clutching your pearls reay top asbandonm one of the best presidents of my 60m years? Biden believes in America and is positive about it. Is it the record highs on Wall Street that you hate or the record low unemployment? Trump’s view of America is that it is a H3ll hole with rampant crime, death and destruction. His view is a whinning victim America. That is a foreign country. His negative view is anti-American. He will lose if we all keep these truths front and center.
trump01135809 was, is, ALL LIES & MISINFORMATION (like NAZI GOEBBELS AND HITLER …AND WE KNOW THE DEVASTATION THEIR LIES CAUSED). How can anyone of us ever forgive the ‘Republican’ party for supporting such a flawed-individual as their party nominee?
Flashaaway 7 days ago
The fact that Biden wants to be the candidate instead of stepping aside will be the catalyst that destroys America in November. And you know it
sipsienwa Premium Member 7 days ago
I will take Pres. Biden on a bad day over a convicted, twice impeached, riot inciter any time.
FreyjaRN Premium Member 7 days ago
Oh, my.
ibFrank 7 days ago
I was surprised by how bad Biden did in the debate, but I still prefer him over Trump. What I don’t think is that there is anyone that can replace him this late in the game and still win.
Donaldo Premium Member 7 days ago
Nice one
GOGOPOWERANGERS 7 days ago
Biden has and is more consistant in his messaging than trump and hasnt cognitively fumbled much
One bad should change that
Patjade 7 days ago
Not a good night for either of them, but I’m sticking with the guy with the good record and not the pathological liar with the criminal convictions who wants to overturn democracy.
rossevrymn 7 days ago
It’s the Ruth Bader Ginsburg effect, all over again. Stick around until you completely undermine all the good you did.
DC Swamp 7 days ago
Leftists are finally seeing the demented Joe the rest of us normal people have pointed out for years! No “cheap fakes” Thursday night!
Nantucket Premium Member 7 days ago
The long-standing problem with Dems is lacking a spine to stand up against the Repubs. Convicted felon who incessantly lies keeps being supported by Repubs including those in government that choose money and power over representing the people. Hoarse voice and a couple of flubs and too many Dems want to run and hide. “Woke” is the most ridiculous insult; can’t understand those that think being asleep should get any attention is silly.
Al Franken should not have resigned. If President Biden drops put, all you will hear from Repubs and the RW will be false bleating against Dems and them praising the “greatness” (YUCK) of Trump.
Kilrwat Premium Member 7 days ago
We are electing a team and an agenda, not a single combat warrior. We are talking Death Valley (trump) vs. Everest (Biden) in terms of competence and effectiveness of their team and agenda. Trump rode Obama’s economy, the same way Bush rode Clinton’s. Biden pulled us out of the trump catastrophe and we have outperformed the world by 2-3x with regards to opportunity and growth, so it is small wonder everyone wants to come here, legally or not.
Stephen Runnels Premium Member 7 days ago
You can’t really blame President Biden’s demeanor for having to waste time debating a convicted felon over things that orange embarrassment couldn’t understand. At the rally, the President was able to be himself and relate to the American people he actually cares about.
Jack7528 7 days ago
Tick, tick, tick. If Trump does win, what will happen to the Democratic Party?
akachman Premium Member 7 days ago
Fair weather Democrats need to calm the f*** down. Traitor trump must be defeated. President Joe Biden is the one to take that POS felon a** down. Vote Joe! Vote for democracy!
Cerabooge 7 days ago
The Democrats chose this. Hard to feel any sympathy for a group that can’t even put forth someone that can easily beat Trump!
GiantShetlandPony 7 days ago
As long as Biden is president, I’m not worried at all.
My first thought at the beginning of the debate was, what bad luck for Biden having a cold right now. He also made the mistake of preparing for a debate with a reasonable human being. It’s hard to debate someone who ignores the questions, lies and talks nonsense.
I’d say no one won the debate and the Repubs should be terrified that they continue to back Traitor Felon Trump as a presidential candidate. The world won’t laugh at us for having an old president, but a known criminal and rapist, that’s a different story. It’s bad enough the USA had to suffer 4 years of failure under the traitor. Let’s not make that mistake again.
Biden surrounds himself with qualified people that he listens to. Traitor Trump surrounds himself with sycophants that will do whatever ridiculous thing he comes up with. Traitor Trump will bankrupt the nation, which will crash our economy worse than the Great Depression.
Drbarb71 Premium Member 6 days ago
Thank you all for such thoughtful and hopeful comments! You made my day.
socalvillaguy Premium Member 6 days ago
As a Democrat, I honestly can say that mild-to-severe panic by our party is de rigueur before every presidential election. The concern is particularly acute this year when the Mango Mussolini is warming up in the wings, getting ready to commit whatever heinous crimes he intends for his next term. Is Biden the strongest candidate we have? Of course not. Has he been uber-successful in his first term? Absolutely. So I understand the pearl-clutching, especially with even the pre-debate polls being so dicey, but calls for Biden to walk away after one bad debate is just dumb. Will we do it? In such a fraught election year, I think it’s possible. I’ll vote blue no matter who.
Zuhl's Wife 6 days ago
So, you brainwashed MAGAs think Alfred’s too old to run the Batcave, but putting the Joker in charge is the right thing to do? Did I hear that right?
Tell ya what. Save us all the trouble, and just hit yourself in the head with this stupid stick.
Diane Lee Premium Member 6 days ago
OK, Biden was awful. He is old and to be honest about it debating was never his strong point. And, it is difficult to produce proof of the fact that practically every thing Trump said was a lie. So, why am I still voting for Biden? Because his record includes:
Inherited worst unemployment and crashed economy in a hundred years and turned it around into unprecedented economic growth and success.
Dragged us out of covid epidemic that would have been much lees of a problem if Trump hadn’t dismantled the agency Obama set up to handle epidemics.Believes in global warning and efforts to reduce the damage it will cause
Most jobs created of any first term president
Lower drug pricesLowest prolonged unemployment in 60 yearsBringing inflation downWage growth exceeds inflation
Capping credit card late fees and limiting junk fees in other businesses
Student loan forgivenessRecord stock market highsReduced annual budget deficit every yearPassed first bi-partisan gun legislation in thirty yearsBipartisan Infrastructure BillStrengthened relations with NATO and other alliesDelivered BIPARTISAN BORDER BILL before Trump ordered it blocked and obstructed so he could keep his top wedge issue unsolved and run on a problem that exists solely because of Trump.
Achieved all of this despite unprecedented Republican obstruction and despite having literally the narrowest possible Senate majority (50-50 in his first two years) and a vice president who set the all-time record for most tie-breaking votes in all of U.S. history.
BUT, NONE OF THESE ARE THE MAIN REASON I’M VOTING FOR HIM. THE MAIN REASON IS THAT HE ISN’T TRUMP.
kathyw Premium Member 6 days ago
Both of these men have been president. Just looking at the behavior of each while in office tells me vastly more than any debate ever could.
Rich Douglas 6 days ago
This is EXACTLY how Republicans should feel about Trump, but that doesn’t work in the cult. Instead, they’ll back that serial philanderer, the one who cheated on his wife with a porn star and a nude model. The one who obstructed justice to cover up his national security violations and attempted to hold power illegally after being voted out of office. The one convicted of 34 felonies and faces 55 other counts in three cases. The one who is responsible for sexually assaulting a journalist, then defaming her. The one who ran a fake charity and fake training school, both since ordered closed. The one who defrauded the State of New York and has a nearly half-billion-dollar judgment against him.
But they’re not at all concerned. They love that guy.
parkerinthehouse 6 days ago
he needs to choose Obama for his veep and he’ll win hands down
Plumb.Bob Premium Member 6 days ago
Grow a spine Democrats. One bad performance and you are clutching your pearls reay top asbandonm one of the best presidents of my 60m years? Biden believes in America and is positive about it. Is it the record highs on Wall Street that you hate or the record low unemployment? Trump’s view of America is that it is a H3ll hole with rampant crime, death and destruction. His view is a whinning victim America. That is a foreign country. His negative view is anti-American. He will lose if we all keep these truths front and center.
jean.balliet2 6 days ago
Disappointed that you fell off the truck.
MuddyUSA Premium Member 5 days ago
@Nick Anderson – I absolutely love it!!
vwmdabbler75 5 days ago
trump01135809 was, is, ALL LIES & MISINFORMATION (like NAZI GOEBBELS AND HITLER …AND WE KNOW THE DEVASTATION THEIR LIES CAUSED). How can anyone of us ever forgive the ‘Republican’ party for supporting such a flawed-individual as their party nominee?