Libya is an OPEC member and holds the largest proven oil reserves in Africa, so the bummer stickers should say no blood for oil,…
Good thing we don’t have any boots on the ground yet.
I think it’s hilarious that that conservatives thing anything about the environment is a ‘grab for power’ last time I checked I like breathing clean air that won’t give me cancer or water that won’t poison me or blow me up.
DJ if you don’t think we should use an economical arguement than how are these unborn babies going to be taken care of? will god provide? come on you have to at least look at reality.
If you want to stop abortion start by increasing education, the more educated a person is the better they are with dealing with situations and making choices. but you know what that will cost money and no one is willing to pay taxes in this country.
you should advocate for more money for schools to teach kids about math and history and philosophy and how to think and make choices. That’s the real answer to this problem.
DJ you’re an interesting person that’s for sure. You seem to value quantity of life above everything else, while I value quality. But I believe it’s up to an individual to decide, I won’t force my morality on anyone.
And just because you can’t imagine someone being treated badly doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. A person’s place in the world as well as how they live it, is up to them and their relationship with god not you and what you believe. I’ll never force you to do anything against your will or against your beliefs, and I expect the same from you.
One last thing: would you kill one man, who happens to be a serial rapist/killer if it would save 10 young ladies from him. For me that’s an easy one, the good of the many has to outweigh the good of the one. But I’ve sat down and thought about what I think is right and wrong instead of just following the stuff I was told.
DjGuardian I learned math and history is high school as well, I also learned basic biology and sex ed since almost every person on the plant will have sex at some point in their life. We expect kids to just pick things up and they can’t because adults won’t talk to them about things like ‘sex’ and ‘drugs’ or if they do it comes from a judgmental viewpoint.
I think it is hilarious when people believe there were no abortions before Roe V. Wade just because they didn’t meet anyone who had an abortion. I can promise you we had abortions back then, and if you were rich you went to Canada or the UK and had a doctor do them.
I know plenty of people who have adopted kids and are wonderful people. I don’t know anyone who gave their kid up for adoption who doesn’t get treat like garbage by our society. To illustrate my point we all can think of famous people who were adopted, Walt Disney for example, but can you think of a famous person who gave up a child?
Comparing burning down the ghettos to abortion is a standard low brow, emotional argument. The better comparison would be abortion to a sinking ship, there aren’t enough life boats to take everybody so you have to choose, God the decision sucks but either choose or die. Life isn’t black or white like the movies were when you were little.
Nemesys I’m glad your mom made the choice she did, my point is and will always be, it’s up to the woman to make that choice.
if something is easy/hard is irrelivant because that will always depend on the person. Things I think are easy might not be for you.
Adoption is what the anti-abortion zelots throw out there, “why don’t they just give the kid up for adoption?” everyone thinks that’s so easy but I’ve seen how hard it is and it sounds like your bio-mom took the time to make the decision she could live with.
Nemesys what is your position on women getting an abortion if she was raped? or if the child will be born with a severe birth defect that she can’t afford to take care of? or she already has 3 kids and can’t afford to feed a forth?
It’s a really terrible thing to have to choose between an unborn child’s life and the rest of the families wellbeing, but life won’t mean anything if it was easy.
And don’t give me that BS about adoption. I’ve worked with the poor for 13 years now and the teenagers who have the guts to give a kid up for adoption get treated like s**t by everyone (their family, their friends, their teachers even) because they didn’t raise ‘their own’ child. It must suck to have to justify your decision to everybody you meet for the rest of your life; heck abortion would be an easier decision than those kids make.
DjGuardian just so you are aware, when women use birth control they have to have a 3rd party to get it, it’s usually a Doctor to prescribe birth control pills or one of the other means of preventing pregnancy. When men use birth control they go to the corner store to by condoms, and only if they get a vasectomy do they need to involve a 3rd party. (I’m guessing you failed health class when you were in high school) So we know that 90% of women use birth control in their lifetimes while we have no numbers on men.
Our local abortion clinic had to hire a full time Spanish speaker because they provide so many abortions to the daughters of Spanish speak immigrants and almost all of those are under the age of 15. What it boils down to is whatever someone chooses it’s between them and God not for the government to decide(wow you’d think the psycho anti government types would be pro women’s rights but then you remember they just want government out of their lives and to interfere with everyone elses.)
I hate to say it charlie you are right abortion rates went up this year but they are still at all time lows.
most recent abortions are from families that already have 2 or 3 kids and can’t afford them, if insurance companies covered birth control that wouldn’t happen. over 90% of women use some form of birth control during their lives.
but your stupid abstinence only education doesn’t teach women how to protect themselves.
michaelwme you are correct the body was too decomposed to tell anythong other than poor Kaylee is DEAD. somehow she died that’s at least child abuse.