“Torquemada… do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada… do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada… do not ask him for mercy. Let’s face it, you can’t Torquemada anything!”
hobby lobby are a bunch of hypocrites. they do business in china where a 1 child policy is enforced by the gov’t. they invest in pensions/mutual funds who invest in drug companies that produce contraception. they are selective on what part of christianity they like and don’t like. maybe they will not let women in positions of management. or, having clothes made of multiple fabrics. or, having anything made from pigs? or, not being open on the weekends? or, any other insane rules that their holy book tells them to do.
1) It was based on the Religious “Freedom” Restoration Act which not only is pretty shaky Constitutionally, but it also says there must be a compelling interest for the government to require a company to do something that offends their religion. Providing BC in its health insurance policy is such a compelling interest.
2) Companies can now game-say “it’s against my religion” to ignore any laws they don’t like including anti-discrimination, anti-pollution, and anti-safety regulations.
3) By saying this ruling can’t be used to deny things like blood transfusions, Scalia is giving preferred treatment to one set of religious opinions which violates the establishment clause of the Constitution.
Hey Torquemada, waddya say? – I just got back from an Auto-da-fé!An Auto-da-fé? What’s an Auto-da-fé? – It’s what you ought not to do but you do anyway!
Give it a rest, Pab. You know bloody well that was the only legal outcome possible. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (meaning, of course, the US was not going to be another C of E nation) or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. And what leftists like to believe — incorrectly, of course — is that the “free exercise of religion” is contained within the walls of our churches and synagogues. They substitute the word “worship” for “religion” and try to sell us on the concepts being identical. They aren’t even equivalent. Worship is a component of religion. So is living out one’s faith in the marketplace, which is why it is just as much a First Amendment infringement to force abortifacients on Hobby Lobby, Conestoga Wood Products, the Little Sisters of the Poor, Catholic Charities, and similar concerns, commercial and noncommercial, that are manifestations of a religious life lived out as it would be to force everyone to belong to the C of E. As someone else has said somewhere else, Catholic Charities, to use as an example, doesn’t exist because Catholics need charity; it’s because it’s part of our Catholic practice to practice charity, no matter to whom. And yes, I am Catholic, and proud to be so.
I have one word for all……IMAGINE. We need to stop allowing religious nonsense to impede in our secular country. This is 2014 already we should be done with this idea that some being is floating around in the sky. These owners are right wingers who use religion to fight against the ACA. And scotus fuels their nonsense. And if our government ends up footing the bill for contraception for the few that may be involved in this legal battle, this company will be paying for it with their taxes. So what’s the point? They should have used the money they wasted on legal battles to send to charity.
Wrong KM, if you operate in the US you have to follow by US law. Saying “my religion forbids it” doesn’t cut it when it comes to the greater good. Would you also support honor killings because of freedom of religion?
BE THIS GUY over 10 years ago
Hey, you got 5 out of 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court on your side.
Sherlock Watson over 10 years ago
I wasn’t expecting the Spanish Inquisition.:I SAID IT FIRST! I SAID IT FIRST!
TooOldToBeCool over 10 years ago
“Torquemada… do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada… do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada… do not ask him for mercy. Let’s face it, you can’t Torquemada anything!”
vwdualnomand over 10 years ago
hobby lobby are a bunch of hypocrites. they do business in china where a 1 child policy is enforced by the gov’t. they invest in pensions/mutual funds who invest in drug companies that produce contraception. they are selective on what part of christianity they like and don’t like. maybe they will not let women in positions of management. or, having clothes made of multiple fabrics. or, having anything made from pigs? or, not being open on the weekends? or, any other insane rules that their holy book tells them to do.
Alverant over 10 years ago
It was a bad decision for several reasons.
1) It was based on the Religious “Freedom” Restoration Act which not only is pretty shaky Constitutionally, but it also says there must be a compelling interest for the government to require a company to do something that offends their religion. Providing BC in its health insurance policy is such a compelling interest.
2) Companies can now game-say “it’s against my religion” to ignore any laws they don’t like including anti-discrimination, anti-pollution, and anti-safety regulations.
3) By saying this ruling can’t be used to deny things like blood transfusions, Scalia is giving preferred treatment to one set of religious opinions which violates the establishment clause of the Constitution.
Alverant over 10 years ago
I have no idea how I did a double post since I just signed up to gocomics just to make that comment.
phlash over 10 years ago
Hey Torquemada, waddya say? – I just got back from an Auto-da-fé!An Auto-da-fé? What’s an Auto-da-fé? – It’s what you ought not to do but you do anyway!
K M over 10 years ago
Give it a rest, Pab. You know bloody well that was the only legal outcome possible. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (meaning, of course, the US was not going to be another C of E nation) or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. And what leftists like to believe — incorrectly, of course — is that the “free exercise of religion” is contained within the walls of our churches and synagogues. They substitute the word “worship” for “religion” and try to sell us on the concepts being identical. They aren’t even equivalent. Worship is a component of religion. So is living out one’s faith in the marketplace, which is why it is just as much a First Amendment infringement to force abortifacients on Hobby Lobby, Conestoga Wood Products, the Little Sisters of the Poor, Catholic Charities, and similar concerns, commercial and noncommercial, that are manifestations of a religious life lived out as it would be to force everyone to belong to the C of E. As someone else has said somewhere else, Catholic Charities, to use as an example, doesn’t exist because Catholics need charity; it’s because it’s part of our Catholic practice to practice charity, no matter to whom. And yes, I am Catholic, and proud to be so.
pcolli over 10 years ago
In a rhyming mood today, aren’t you?
jjff over 10 years ago
I have one word for all……IMAGINE. We need to stop allowing religious nonsense to impede in our secular country. This is 2014 already we should be done with this idea that some being is floating around in the sky. These owners are right wingers who use religion to fight against the ACA. And scotus fuels their nonsense. And if our government ends up footing the bill for contraception for the few that may be involved in this legal battle, this company will be paying for it with their taxes. So what’s the point? They should have used the money they wasted on legal battles to send to charity.
Alverant over 10 years ago
Wrong KM, if you operate in the US you have to follow by US law. Saying “my religion forbids it” doesn’t cut it when it comes to the greater good. Would you also support honor killings because of freedom of religion?
xnyer over 10 years ago
There aren’t many actual Jewish delis anymore. I predict the expansion plan of the Dave Clark Five and Dime Pig and Pie chain will shrivel like bacon