Gary Varvel for November 15, 2012

One way to fight an idea is to frame it as ‘Goofy’. When you look at the election maps, and the great majority of the states are ‘red’, but we get a ‘blue’ president, a lot of disenfranchised areas are going to say ENOUGH already, we’re outa’ here…

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Florida is first on the list of states that get more Federal dollars than they pay in and Texas is 9th. These people are crazier than the tea party.

Do they still pledge allegiance to the American Flag?Does the word “indivisible” no longer mean anything?

If we are particularly lucky after you leave you make your own internet like China so you only get the information you new “goverment” requires you to get :).

I sympathize with the citizens now voting for their state to withdraw from a federal government that operates in opposition to the US Constitution more and more as both dem and republican regimes move further and further to the LEFT.-None of this nation’s citizens signed up for a Marxist government……not our Founders and not by each succeeding generation. Our original charter was designed for Moral citizens, who honored God and repected the Biblical standards as foundation for our civil law system. We are far from that concept, today, and falling farther each election.Some “rich” may be cashing in and moving out….but most of us cannot afford to do that….I can only pray for God to protect me and my family, no matter how wicked our nation becomes.

secdee BWAHAHAHAHhaha of course if i didn’t want federal highways and roads and bridges and waterways and dams and federal aid like for hurricanes and oil spills and medicare and medicaid and social security and national guard wull hayall yeah i oughtta go on ahead and secdee

States were bankrupt before Obama was even a student at Harvard. My home state of Virginia was bankrupted by a shell game thought up by a governor who had the state pay a local tax that none of the locals wanted to pay.

Ah, but who pays the state?

Ok, people think it’s crazy to want to leave the union. I’m not sure I like this idea either, but are those people the same who want, say, Texas to drop executions? who have just disdain for conservatives and EVEN for conservative states? Are they the same who enjoyed cartoons like “The United States of Jesus” back in 2004?So why would they want conservative states to stay in the union anyway?Is the economy maybe better in those states? Ah – now I’ll bet we’ll see our young leader try to pass legislation to prevent Texas from leaving the union.I’d love to be cut away from a state like California, which businesses are leaving in droves. Why should they get federal money, that I’m forced to contribute to? They don’t understand how money is made; let them have their stupid paradise; came back in 10 years and let me know how things are going then.

The Founding Fathers designed a loophole for their future, so that if the federal government became oppressive as all “democracies” do in the recounting of history of earth….the 2nd Amendment is the right of the people to own firearms…with the right to a new REVOLUTION if they choose.-Which would you anti-conservative posters prefer?Revolution? Or a peaceful secessionist movement????

Just have these morons renounce their citizenship (as they should) and give up all their rights and privileges. If they want to move to another country, fine, just make it one way.

Ya can call the states red and blue all ya want, but look at the popular vote and you will see what is close to a 50-50 split, leaning one way ot the other by less than 5%. State by state carries that margin also with a few exceptions.Libs and conservatives are spread out all across the nation. But if you get down to It, I bet you would find the vast Majority (Not a simple majority, mind you) somewhere in the middle. some lean slightly more con and some lean slightly more lib. The problem is that the MAJORITY of the people have let the EXTREMES on both sides call the shots.

@dredpiraterob$why are you confusing them with facts?

Good riddance to sore losers.

I have also seen many ultra conservatives here bragging about the fact that Texas is the 15th largest economy in the world!

Conveniently forgetting that the hated (by those same ultra conservatives) state of California IS the eighth largest economy in the World.

The agribusiness in California alone is larger in value of all of the agribusinesses of the three next in value states put together!

If every other state in the US had as large a GDP as California, the GDP of the US would be almost TWICE the GDP of the ENTIRE World. Stop and think for a minute people, the total GDP of the US is some $16 trillion, and of that the GDP of California alone is over $2 trillion!

If (as some ultra conservatives seem to want it) the economy of California goes under (luckily of the red states a very unlikely event) the total economy of the rest of the US would follow very quickly. Gee, you think it might just be possible that by far the greater majority of Californian are NOT lazy good for nothing flakes?

One of the reasons that a great deal of the high tech industries of this country are in California (such as Silicon Valley) is that there is a very well educated and readily available work force here in California. This is because California has the greatest upper college educational system not only in the US, but probably the entire world. The University of California, Stanford University, and for technology the number one in the nation in the California Institute of Technology see to it that California’s tech industry will remain a money maker for not only California itself, but also for the economy of the entire US as well.

All of the states of the US have both their good and bad, and I as a Californian will never disrespect any other state, but I do sometimes get a little tired of all the BS anti California junk that is put forwards by some of our more ultra conservative people on these message boards.

If you can not post something nice and positive about other states and people, then keep your bloody fingers off of your keyboards!!!!

I was a little lazy and didn’t resize the image…So I’ve deleted my earlier post and added this one: Use less-than/open angular bracket before the following:img src=“url of image” alt=“a Description of image” width=“250” height=“200”…and at the end place a greater-than/close angular bracket.Use it responsibly lest you incur the wrath of the moderators and get yourself banned.

BTW: if Texas didn’t have oil, and government contractors, they’d have been broke long ago. With that climate change that isn’t happening, they’ve sold off most cattle, and are losing the rest of their agriculture. That’s why they want the Keystone pipeline to bring them Canadian tar sands, to keep their “business” in business..

Don’t forget that Bellamy was a socialist, and, though a minister, he never mentioned “god” in the pledge, and wanted it to say, “…with liberty, equality and fraternity for all.” but his editor nixed that because it included the ni Blacks and women.

Less talk of secession. More talk of succeeding. God Bless America.C.