Ted Rall for November 28, 2012
Transcript:
All the top GOP candidates for prez in 2016 support creationism: (Gov. Chris Christie- NJ: When asked about evolution vs. creationism: "That's none of your business.") (Gov. Bobby Jindal- LA: "I don't want any facts or theories or explanations to be withheld from my children because of political correctness") (Sen. Rand Paul- KY: "I'm gonna pass on the age of the earth. I'm just gonna have to pass on that one.") (Sen. Marco Rubio-FL: When asked how old the earth is "I'm not a scientist, man!") Denyin science isn't dumb. It's a brilliant strategy for governing the country! Consider the possibilities that open up when you refuse to live within the constraints of time and space: No math-no deficit! (Presto! Balanced budget! Whatever that is.) No "temperature"- no global warming! (No... hot? Cold? What are those?) No physics- no illegal wars! (In my timeline, Iraq is in Kansas!) GOP 2016: So backwards they're coming back to the otherside: The future! (We're #1) (Stop the fancy math!) If you believe in geometry)
OmqR-IV.0 over 11 years ago
*groans
walruscarver2000 over 11 years ago
Backwards, turn backwards, Oh time in thy flight. And give me a brain again,Just for tonight.
ScullyUFO over 11 years ago
I hates me some science but I loves me mah microwave.
lbatik over 11 years ago
Er…Poe? Is that you?
rockngolfer over 11 years ago
Excuse me while I go bury some fake dinosaur bones to fool the scientists.
rowena28 Premium Member over 11 years ago
Actually, you’ll never know if the GOP candidates really support creationism. They have to say they do, or at least waffle & deny that they don’t, to get GOP primary votes. It’s a political tactic which has nothing to do with their actual beliefs. All politicians have to say what the voters want to hear, not what they genuinely believe.
lbatik over 11 years ago
First: Obama was asked the question in a religious setting, and specifically it was a question about “what he would tell his kids about the Biblical creation story.” If you want to be able to reconcile the Biblical creation story with what science says, that’s a reasonable response.
Rubio, on the other hand, was asked a specific question about “what is the age of the earth”, and it was in a secular context. He chose to make a purely religious answer.
Furthermore, his answer was, from a scientific and reality-based perspective, completely wrong. " I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to answer that. It’s one of the great mysteries" is false; it has been answered; and anyone with basic knowledge of the science ought to be able to say “the Earth is 4.54 billion years old, give or take a couple hundred million.” And that’s pretty much that.
I Play One On TV over 11 years ago
@ansonia:
Thanks for posting the full text. Gives me hope for the future. When I saw all those candidates’ hands go up at one of the first debates when the question was “who here believes in creationism”, I was expecting at least one of them to tell us that gravity is only a theory.
Motivemagus over 11 years ago
Nice try, but WRONG! Obama clearly supports science and Darwinian evolution:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFsB1Jk1OQ0
OmqR-IV.0 over 11 years ago
How many people on this forum believe the world is a few thousand years old? Could you reply?
runar over 11 years ago
The universe was created just last Thursday!! I know because my cat told me so!
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 11 years ago
And yet, more Democrats than Republicans voted to extend tax cuts in 2010.
walruscarver2000 over 11 years ago
How dare they attack my pseudoreligion with their pseudo science?
Motivemagus over 11 years ago
Oh, look! DOCUMENTED MELTING of the Arctic — and, no, the Antarctic doesn’t make up for it…http://youtu.be/_76ljY_NbS0
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
“Genesis” should begin with the words: “Once upon a time…”
walruscarver2000 over 11 years ago
Yeah Eryn, you know if it isn’t on ox it is wrong. (now THAT’S a joke!!)
lbatik over 11 years ago
Wow, your reading comprehension sucks.
lbatik over 11 years ago
It’s not a personal attack, ansonia. It’s a comment on your reading comprehension.
Which sucks. No, seriously.
I didn’t feel up to trying to correct you as much as the situation requires, because you came at what I wrote at such a weird angle I’m not even sure how to tackle it. Only one thing is sure, and that is the fact that you completely didn’t ‘get’ any of that, and the level of incomprehension of the situation as described seems so bizarre and blinkered that it may not even be possible to explain — because it kind of seems like you have absolutely no interest in understanding.
I’ll try short words and sentences.
Obama was asked what he would tell his daughters about the Bible story.
Obama was in a Church group at the time.
Obama is a devout Christian.
Obama is, however, not anti-science.
Obama said that he would try to explain that the Bible story of Genesis can be understood as an allegory.
If you want to reconcile the Bible with what science can tell us, then that is not a bad way to do it.
Separately:
Rubio was asked how old he thought the world is.
It was a general interview.
It was not a religious question.
It is a question about physical reality, and how much Rubio knows about that.
Rubio thought that religion addressed this just as well as science does.
Rubio claimed that “no-one could really know.”
That’s actually false. Because science addresses this better than religion, and we not only can, but do know.
If this doesn’t clear things up for you, then I cannot help you. Maybe no-one can help you.