The reactionaries in the House of Representatives have voted 40 times to repeal the ACA, at significant cost to the tax payers and never once have they said what they’d replace it with.
They should be thankful that Gingrichcare/Romneycare/Obamacare covers preexisting conditions.Oh, that’s right. Members of the House of Representatives get free taxpayer supported health care, like good little Socialist Welfare Recipients, so they don’t have to worry about how the Capitalist Free Market keeps raising my Health Insurance rates.
MStevenson58 said, about 3 hours ago “I hope it eventually works so the rest of the country doesn’t have to beat their heads against a wall to get their free healthcare.”-“Free Healthcare”?Government “gives” only what it first “Takes”….taxes, fees, however the term, they are funded by citizens.-Any American that thinks Obamacare is “free healthcare” is dangerously deluded, IMO.-The Americans who fought and won our form of Freedom and government “by the people” never, ever thought that the government should provide income or food or services for private living. The Constitution nowhere wrote a “right” for government to “give” citizens anything but a defended peaceful climate to work for their own needs. Bible words command people to "work to have needs, plus extra to personally give to persons in need.-How Far America has Fallen since 1787.
Members of congress and their staff are NOT exempted from Obamacare. In fact, they’re the only group who already have insurance who are forced onto the exchanges, due to Republican insistence. You should fact-check your right-wing talking points before re-bllithering those lies here.
“No Proof?”“Conservative lie?”Abc news says that now only 40% favor the ACA or Obamacare as you libs like to call it.Are they lying too?“Adopt the Canadian plan”?No thanks. 1 year wait to see a doctor. You need the government’s permission to get an MRI. No thanks, but you are free to move there. Cuba has the same thing, so if you want warmer weather you can go there instead.
President Obama’s national health care law will cost $1.76 trillion over a decade, according to a new projection released today by the Congressional Budget Office, rather than the $940 billion forecast when it was signed into law.
Democrats employed many accounting tricks when they were pushing through the national health care legislation, the most egregious of which was to delay full implementation of the law until 2014, so it would appear cheaper under the CBO’s standard ten-year budget window and, at least on paper, meet Obama’s pledge that the legislation would cost “around $900 billion over 10 years.” When the final CBO score came out before passage, critics noted that the true 10 year cost would be far higher than advertised once projections accounted for full implementation.
‘The way debate works is you’re supposed to take a position, elaborate why you believe it is correct and. in this type forum. you then support those contentions and rationales with vallid links. ’-Monty Python argument: No, it isn’t.
A lot of doctors give care pro bono. Back when Clinton was trying to get an insurance system in place, I was talking to a friend of mine, an MD in Maryland, who didn’t approve of socialized medicine, and I was explaining to him how the Canadian system works. At a certain point in the conversation he stopped and thought for a minute and then he said, “You mean I would get paid for ALL the patients I see?” He was doing somewhere between 10% and 20% of his patient load for free. Anyway, he kind of changed his mind about socialized medicine.
Good points. I usually try to make the distinction in my posts. But it’s also true that in Canada people often do use the phrase “socialized medicine” to describe our system. I would suggest that “socialism” isn’t all or nothing — it’s possible to have degrees of socialism, and the single-payer system is on the spectrum, even if not very far. The ACA isn’t on the spectrum.
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
Thankfully somebody is doing what the majority of the American people want: Stopping Obama(non)Care.
Peabody-Martini over 10 years ago
The reactionaries in the House of Representatives have voted 40 times to repeal the ACA, at significant cost to the tax payers and never once have they said what they’d replace it with.
Nebulous Premium Member over 10 years ago
They should be thankful that Gingrichcare/Romneycare/Obamacare covers preexisting conditions.Oh, that’s right. Members of the House of Representatives get free taxpayer supported health care, like good little Socialist Welfare Recipients, so they don’t have to worry about how the Capitalist Free Market keeps raising my Health Insurance rates.
Darsan54 Premium Member over 10 years ago
The image should actually be the public being bashed against the wall by the House GOP member.
disgustedtaxpayer over 10 years ago
MStevenson58 said, about 3 hours ago “I hope it eventually works so the rest of the country doesn’t have to beat their heads against a wall to get their free healthcare.”-“Free Healthcare”?Government “gives” only what it first “Takes”….taxes, fees, however the term, they are funded by citizens.-Any American that thinks Obamacare is “free healthcare” is dangerously deluded, IMO.-The Americans who fought and won our form of Freedom and government “by the people” never, ever thought that the government should provide income or food or services for private living. The Constitution nowhere wrote a “right” for government to “give” citizens anything but a defended peaceful climate to work for their own needs. Bible words command people to "work to have needs, plus extra to personally give to persons in need.-How Far America has Fallen since 1787.
ARodney over 10 years ago
Members of congress and their staff are NOT exempted from Obamacare. In fact, they’re the only group who already have insurance who are forced onto the exchanges, due to Republican insistence. You should fact-check your right-wing talking points before re-bllithering those lies here.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
so anderson thinks one should not fight against evil unless victory is assured
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
“No Proof?”“Conservative lie?”Abc news says that now only 40% favor the ACA or Obamacare as you libs like to call it.Are they lying too?“Adopt the Canadian plan”?No thanks. 1 year wait to see a doctor. You need the government’s permission to get an MRI. No thanks, but you are free to move there. Cuba has the same thing, so if you want warmer weather you can go there instead.
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/t/blogEntry?id=19077088&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
Better for the middle class?
President Obama’s national health care law will cost $1.76 trillion over a decade, according to a new projection released today by the Congressional Budget Office, rather than the $940 billion forecast when it was signed into law.
Democrats employed many accounting tricks when they were pushing through the national health care legislation, the most egregious of which was to delay full implementation of the law until 2014, so it would appear cheaper under the CBO’s standard ten-year budget window and, at least on paper, meet Obama’s pledge that the legislation would cost “around $900 billion over 10 years.” When the final CBO score came out before passage, critics noted that the true 10 year cost would be far higher than advertised once projections accounted for full implementation.
braindead Premium Member over 10 years ago
‘The way debate works is you’re supposed to take a position, elaborate why you believe it is correct and. in this type forum. you then support those contentions and rationales with vallid links. ’-Monty Python argument: No, it isn’t.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
canada plan = to have an ingrown toe nail cared for it has to be infected per lady at b& b i stayed at
pirate227 over 10 years ago
There you have it folks, insanity personified.
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/02/19/when-it-comes-to-waiting-canada-is-last-in-line-2/
braindead Premium Member over 10 years ago
“Yes, it is :-)”-I’m sorry. Your time is up. Please deposit another $25.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
so ahab you are a freeloader so you do not know what a b&b is /// you should get out of your parent’s basement
lonecat over 10 years ago
A lot of doctors give care pro bono. Back when Clinton was trying to get an insurance system in place, I was talking to a friend of mine, an MD in Maryland, who didn’t approve of socialized medicine, and I was explaining to him how the Canadian system works. At a certain point in the conversation he stopped and thought for a minute and then he said, “You mean I would get paid for ALL the patients I see?” He was doing somewhere between 10% and 20% of his patient load for free. Anyway, he kind of changed his mind about socialized medicine.
lonecat over 10 years ago
Good points. I usually try to make the distinction in my posts. But it’s also true that in Canada people often do use the phrase “socialized medicine” to describe our system. I would suggest that “socialism” isn’t all or nothing — it’s possible to have degrees of socialism, and the single-payer system is on the spectrum, even if not very far. The ACA isn’t on the spectrum.