There have been lots of shams over lots of years. Do not make the mistake of thinking that this is the first time.
There is precedent for that. Remember the hearings regarding cooked “intel” that led to our two unwinnable wars in the middle east. Neither Mr. Bush nor Mr. Cheney would swear in, nor would Mr. Bush answer questions unless Mr. Cheney was present. Under those conditions, their testimony would have been allowed to be credibility-free, and would only have created more redacted pages to not be able to read.
You forgot the earplugs and to add to the caption: “… and I DIDN’T DO” (cause it’s always someone else’s fault.)You must remember “He’s just a community organizer” and all his life he has just voted “PRESENT”
Q: You know how you can tell when Obama is lying? A: Every time he opens his mouth.Could it be the reason he uses a teleprompter – so he can “lie straight face while we cry…”
“So intel on our National security is “cooked” because why?”
Time forbids me to answer in depth, but here’s the capsulized version.
Intel on national security is “cooked” to convince people that the choices of the administration are correct. Just as we cherry-picked our “evidence” against Saddam Hussein, Mr. Obama did the same regarding the Syrians and the “rebels”, who are not citizens rebelling against a tyrannical government, but truly a bunch of profiteers and thugs from out of the country.
But I think that what you’re really asking is “how do you know the intel is cooked”?
Follow the money. Ahmed Chalabi was paid $35K per month to tell Bush/Cheney just what they wanted to hear. And don’t forget how much they believed a guy code-named “Curveball”.
If you work back from the obvious goal to the “justification” of same, it’s easy to see. If you want to, that is.
More or less, yes. I don’t think Mr. Bush had the complete picture, but I truly don’t think he wanted it. And the government branches trusted one another to do due diligence. That’s no longer the case, but it was at that time. He did not hide truth. He just presented his case, and people believed him. And to be fair, he was clueless enough to believe it was the truth, despite what Hans Blix and other monitors were saying.
And please don’t tell me you think Saddam Hussein had anything to do with 9/11, although that was constantly repeated for the masses at the time.
The Internal Revenue Service, under pressure after admitting it targeted anti-tax Tea Party groups for scrutiny in recent years, also had its eye on three Democratic-leaning organizations seeking nonprofit status.
livingliberally.org [they could only find 3 lib groups questioned]
from emerge america own siteEmerge America is changing the face of American politics by identifying, training and encouraging women to run for office, get elected and to seek higher office. Our intensive, cohort-based seven-month training program is unique. As the number of elected Democratic women remains flat or even declines, the need for our work is growing across the country
this is a volation of tax exempt law
reported in kc star a few months back [ yes some people go to library and read varios news papers] reported that a group called “restore the consitution” is still waitng // the last letter they got from irs wanted a list of people who were at their rally
mietz over 10 years ago
He is no Harry Truman.
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
There have been lots of shams over lots of years. Do not make the mistake of thinking that this is the first time.
There is precedent for that. Remember the hearings regarding cooked “intel” that led to our two unwinnable wars in the middle east. Neither Mr. Bush nor Mr. Cheney would swear in, nor would Mr. Bush answer questions unless Mr. Cheney was present. Under those conditions, their testimony would have been allowed to be credibility-free, and would only have created more redacted pages to not be able to read.
grain of salt over 10 years ago
he should have used “i don’t recall” or “i don’t remember” like one of his most revered predecessors.
CUNTHFUNYPAGS over 10 years ago
You forgot the earplugs and to add to the caption: “… and I DIDN’T DO” (cause it’s always someone else’s fault.)You must remember “He’s just a community organizer” and all his life he has just voted “PRESENT”
Q: You know how you can tell when Obama is lying? A: Every time he opens his mouth.Could it be the reason he uses a teleprompter – so he can “lie straight face while we cry…”
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
“So intel on our National security is “cooked” because why?”
Time forbids me to answer in depth, but here’s the capsulized version.
Intel on national security is “cooked” to convince people that the choices of the administration are correct. Just as we cherry-picked our “evidence” against Saddam Hussein, Mr. Obama did the same regarding the Syrians and the “rebels”, who are not citizens rebelling against a tyrannical government, but truly a bunch of profiteers and thugs from out of the country.
But I think that what you’re really asking is “how do you know the intel is cooked”?
Follow the money. Ahmed Chalabi was paid $35K per month to tell Bush/Cheney just what they wanted to hear. And don’t forget how much they believed a guy code-named “Curveball”.
If you work back from the obvious goal to the “justification” of same, it’s easy to see. If you want to, that is.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
fact one liberal group that was set up to train candidates were denied
fact conservative groups were put on hold
fact bho brothers group with ties to Muslim brotherhood got retro approval
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
“That is what you are saying right?”
More or less, yes. I don’t think Mr. Bush had the complete picture, but I truly don’t think he wanted it. And the government branches trusted one another to do due diligence. That’s no longer the case, but it was at that time. He did not hide truth. He just presented his case, and people believed him. And to be fair, he was clueless enough to believe it was the truth, despite what Hans Blix and other monitors were saying.
And please don’t tell me you think Saddam Hussein had anything to do with 9/11, although that was constantly repeated for the masses at the time.
Michael Peterson Premium Member over 10 years ago
Yeah, Bush was perfect. He didn’t even pretend to know anything.
oneoldhat over 10 years ago
The Internal Revenue Service, under pressure after admitting it targeted anti-tax Tea Party groups for scrutiny in recent years, also had its eye on three Democratic-leaning organizations seeking nonprofit status.
livingliberally.org [they could only find 3 lib groups questioned]
from emerge america own siteEmerge America is changing the face of American politics by identifying, training and encouraging women to run for office, get elected and to seek higher office. Our intensive, cohort-based seven-month training program is unique. As the number of elected Democratic women remains flat or even declines, the need for our work is growing across the country
this is a volation of tax exempt law
reported in kc star a few months back [ yes some people go to library and read varios news papers] reported that a group called “restore the consitution” is still waitng // the last letter they got from irs wanted a list of people who were at their rally