Some red neck sheriff was on the war path about Obamacare and had a blog and who knows what else. He vowed he would never get Obamacare. Came down with some nasty disease and started begging for money. Racism is self destructive.
Medicare for All would save the nation $2 trillion over 10 years, but never mind that. We have to pretend it’s a terrible idea because for-profit insurance companies give too many bribes to congressional Republicans and Democrats alike.
Question: Why is the Good Ol’ USA the only Western industrialized nation that does not offer some kind of health coverage to all its citizens? Answer: Greed and the almighty short-term profit gods.
Kaffekup The question “Was a Republican lying” is obviously rhetorical. Which is a shame. I remember Everett Dirksen, and so many honorable, decent Republicans who I disagreed with, but respected. The last one I know of, McCain, has a brain tumor, and he’s the last of the breed.
Single-payer systems in many European countries demonstrate that they can reduce overall national health spending, but that does not mean that a Democratic administration could implement one without incurring an immense political backlash, said Harold Pollack, a health-care expert at the University of Chicago.
“I don’t look at this report and say it is a partisan hack job: The basic idea the Sanders plan would require a substantial increase in federal budget outlays is correct,” Pollack said. “But over the long run, the Sanders people are very correct that you could implement a system like this that would be more disciplined, more economical and more fair than the current U.S. health system.”
Four questions I’ve never had adequately answered about the right’s position on healthcare: 1) Doesn’t a “healthier” society benefit the country as a whole? In a three year stretch a decade ago I had three surgeries. My employer insurance covered almost the entire cost. I was able to remain working, and in theory, helping society. 2) How many who are inadequately insured could be contributing? 3) Don’t we pay the cost anyway? The medical field has to provide it. The hospitals “eat” the cost or pass it on to those insured, causing rates to rise. Businesses provide it, impacting their bottom line. And, 4)Aren’t all rights “given” as a result of what society decides is of value? Three centuries ago, those in power argued against the rights of individuals, but it’s been largely accepted that freedoms like speech, religion, etc. I never understood this “health care isn’t a right”. Every “right” at one time or other wasn’t a “right”.
Havel 100% correct, but you could also add that making it a mess instead of just paying for it as they do in Europe adds substantially to the expense because people have to be paid to figure out the mess which doesn’t need to exist in the first place.
Havel, yeah, a healthier society benefits the country as a whole. Absolutely.
But why would anyone think that Republicans want anything that would benefit the country as a whole? Anything like that will also be to the benefit of Those People.
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How many would be able to contribute?
Again, they might contribute, but they would also benefit. Those People don’t deserve it.
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It’s possible that businesses could benefit, but they also may have to pay higher taxes — even if the benefit is net positive for business as a whole, anything that involves higher taxes is out of the question.
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Again, certain rights are reserved for the Right People, and not those Others.
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Bottom line is that Republicans do NOT want poor people to have adequate health care.
Canadian Medicare is funded separately from the general budget, but it costs less than what we pay for supplement. It is on the same fee-for-service basis as US, although with price control. My Canadian GP summed it up as, “I can’t say I practice medicine any differently now that I no longer worry about being paid.” He also had a much smaller staff without one solely to keep various insurance companies straight.
braindead Premium Member almost 6 years ago
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2018/08/06/butler-investing-in-health-care-may-offset-rising-insurance-premiums/
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 5 years ago
Some red neck sheriff was on the war path about Obamacare and had a blog and who knows what else. He vowed he would never get Obamacare. Came down with some nasty disease and started begging for money. Racism is self destructive.
Radish the wordsmith over 5 years ago
Republican Trump govt doesn’t care if the taxpayers die,
they want to cut Medicare to pay for tax breaks for billionaires.
Jason Allen over 5 years ago
Medicare for All would save the nation $2 trillion over 10 years, but never mind that. We have to pretend it’s a terrible idea because for-profit insurance companies give too many bribes to congressional Republicans and Democrats alike.
Striped Cat over 5 years ago
Question: Why is the Good Ol’ USA the only Western industrialized nation that does not offer some kind of health coverage to all its citizens? Answer: Greed and the almighty short-term profit gods.
Diane Lee Premium Member over 5 years ago
Kaffekup The question “Was a Republican lying” is obviously rhetorical. Which is a shame. I remember Everett Dirksen, and so many honorable, decent Republicans who I disagreed with, but respected. The last one I know of, McCain, has a brain tumor, and he’s the last of the breed.
Mr. Blawt over 5 years ago
Republicans want to live in a world where the popular get crowdfunded to live. Is it great yet?
martens over 5 years ago
Single-payer systems in many European countries demonstrate that they can reduce overall national health spending, but that does not mean that a Democratic administration could implement one without incurring an immense political backlash, said Harold Pollack, a health-care expert at the University of Chicago.
“I don’t look at this report and say it is a partisan hack job: The basic idea the Sanders plan would require a substantial increase in federal budget outlays is correct,” Pollack said. “But over the long run, the Sanders people are very correct that you could implement a system like this that would be more disciplined, more economical and more fair than the current U.S. health system.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/does-bernie-sanderss-health-plan-cost-33-trillion—or-save-2-trillion/2018/07/31/d178b14e-9432-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html
Havel over 5 years ago
Four questions I’ve never had adequately answered about the right’s position on healthcare: 1) Doesn’t a “healthier” society benefit the country as a whole? In a three year stretch a decade ago I had three surgeries. My employer insurance covered almost the entire cost. I was able to remain working, and in theory, helping society. 2) How many who are inadequately insured could be contributing? 3) Don’t we pay the cost anyway? The medical field has to provide it. The hospitals “eat” the cost or pass it on to those insured, causing rates to rise. Businesses provide it, impacting their bottom line. And, 4)Aren’t all rights “given” as a result of what society decides is of value? Three centuries ago, those in power argued against the rights of individuals, but it’s been largely accepted that freedoms like speech, religion, etc. I never understood this “health care isn’t a right”. Every “right” at one time or other wasn’t a “right”.
Diane Lee Premium Member over 5 years ago
Havel 100% correct, but you could also add that making it a mess instead of just paying for it as they do in Europe adds substantially to the expense because people have to be paid to figure out the mess which doesn’t need to exist in the first place.
braindead Premium Member over 5 years ago
Havel, yeah, a healthier society benefits the country as a whole. Absolutely.
But why would anyone think that Republicans want anything that would benefit the country as a whole? Anything like that will also be to the benefit of Those People.
.
How many would be able to contribute?
Again, they might contribute, but they would also benefit. Those People don’t deserve it.
.
It’s possible that businesses could benefit, but they also may have to pay higher taxes — even if the benefit is net positive for business as a whole, anything that involves higher taxes is out of the question.
.
Again, certain rights are reserved for the Right People, and not those Others.
.
Bottom line is that Republicans do NOT want poor people to have adequate health care.
Hippogriff over 5 years ago
Canadian Medicare is funded separately from the general budget, but it costs less than what we pay for supplement. It is on the same fee-for-service basis as US, although with price control. My Canadian GP summed it up as, “I can’t say I practice medicine any differently now that I no longer worry about being paid.” He also had a much smaller staff without one solely to keep various insurance companies straight.
docforbin over 5 years ago
When’s today’s (August 14) strip going to be up? :-(
TheWildSow over 5 years ago
No update, Jen??