Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for October 24, 2012
Transcript:
Ox: "Miss Eiffel is cheating customers" TJ: "Noticed that, huh? That's why I keep this in my vest" Ox: "Your phone?" TJ: "Been recording conversations with her for months. Got great ammo" Ox: "She's a bad person. She shouldn't be manager" TJ: "Ooo! Say that again"
auramac about 12 years ago
Aha!! Go get her!….
The Old Wolf about 12 years ago
The end is near…
BRI-NO-MITE!! Premium Member about 12 years ago
Told you. TJ’s working the long game.
DaJellyBelly about 12 years ago
And before anyone starts raising a smell. Courts have ruled that video and audio recording is perfectly legal in places where privacy is not expected. The dining & ordering area is not where one expects privacy!
pseudomao about 12 years ago
Uh oh, Leviticus, there he is…..
Templo S.U.D. about 12 years ago
Miss Ann Eiffel is reminding me of Mr. Eugene Krabs: really knows how to dissatisfy a customer.
kenhense about 12 years ago
This could get really good: AE is fired – she’s depressed – wanders into a bar – Dirk hits on her and she goes for it. Of course – when they get to AE’s house – we go to another arc where Luann wants to adopt a companion dog for Puddles.
legaleagle48 about 12 years ago
It’s about bloody time. Take her down, TJ!
Ron Dunn Premium Member about 12 years ago
Promotion for TJ mabey?
rayannina about 12 years ago
Exactly. If Ann is fired, someone has to replace her — and TJ’s positioned himself pretty well …
flowerladytoo about 12 years ago
I do believe the trap is abut to snap shut on AE. Bring It On!
brewingbiker about 12 years ago
It should come as no surprise that TJ would run the long game -or that he would have the smarts AND patience to do so.AS for the public place, no expectation of privacy bit, uhm, its a little more complicated than that. In some states its just not legal to record someone without permission -and the case would have to be challenged on a ‘per-case’ basis. Since it is rare that any two are identical. Wasn’t long ago when one made the news in Maryland, the ‘victim’ was getting berated and fined by a traffic cop, and he recorded the entire incident on his ‘smart’ phone. The DA actually charged him for it. I don’t know if he ultimately won his case or not, but even if he DID, it doesn’t get around all the trouble and money he had to spend to defend himself -and the ‘state’ (or city or whatever -call it government by any other name) does not reimburse the winner of the trial. And most government levels have immunity from being sued for such things (or the amount at which you can sue is negligible.) -so, right or wrong, you can still get burned.
CharlesCS about 12 years ago
TJ may not be thinking “police” for his recordings, but rather “corporate HQ”. If so, the standard for admissibility of evidence should be much lower than in any state’s court system.
Sisyphos about 12 years ago
She’s a bad person. She shouldn’t be manager.Oxford knows! —We concur.
Hank1938 about 12 years ago
I think we’re about to learn a lot more about TJ and where some of his money comes from… (undercover boss?)
Angelalex242 about 12 years ago
TJ finally using his powers for good instead of evil. Good to see, really.
melmarsh9v about 12 years ago
That T.J. is one sly dog!
Cloudchaser about 12 years ago
In some places, TJ’s recorded evidence would be inadmissible because it was obtained without a warrant or her knowledge & consent.
MAC45 about 12 years ago
Customer at the counter w/ AE looks like Maynard G. Krebs.
SHW about 12 years ago
I don’t know… now that TJ’s plan is out there, I think somehow Ann is going to find out before it all goes down.
Joel Ivy about 12 years ago
Seems to me, if she knew she was being recorded then TJ would have nothing as ammo. After all when law enforcement uses wire tapping an hidden surveilence are the targets aware? NO. and it need not go to court. just corporate. And they need not say anymore than “too many complaints” to s#!+ can her.
wndrwrthg about 12 years ago
@ Leviticus. What the…? A question, if I may? Did Greg Evans poop in your oatmeal?
Ottodesu about 12 years ago
That’s also correct.
phurface about 12 years ago
Oh the sweet irony of it all…
rusty gate about 12 years ago
That looks like Maynard G. Krebs at the counter (for those of you old enough to remember Dobie Gillis.)
reedkomicks Premium Member about 12 years ago
Corporate may fire her, but if she is pocketing money, they can involve legal action for theft.
Liam Astle Premium Member about 12 years ago
When Ann cheats customers she is bad. When TJ cheats customers he is good.
Mordock999 about 12 years ago
Damn, Right!
How DARE that Upstart Ann Eiffel!
“Cheating Customers”???
That’s TJ’s JOB!!!
MDeB about 12 years ago
“A question for those of you convinced TJ is the second coming or Christ. How is what Ann did different from what the Toad did on 03-20-12?”.Whilst i’m not in that group, I would say that what TJ did was to add thing on at the register and then give the (correct) total; that is a bit of pressure selling and if the customer is too weak to say no, then he gets what he deserves..Anne on the other hand misrepresented the tax as being $2 and then tried to claim it was correct...In summary,TJ: you get it, you pay the advertised price for it;Anne: you get it, you pay over the odds for it.
MDeB about 12 years ago
Actually, it’s a padded bra.
mantenere la calma about 12 years ago
Leviticus, are you there? I see your name every day on this site… hope everything’s okay.
LarryG1968 about 12 years ago
Wow…it’s a comic strip, some of you people take this WAY too seriously…
Matthew Davis about 12 years ago
Bear in mind, RagnaroCker, TJ doesn’t need this job. He’s independently wealthy (although he’s never explained why). The only reason he’s working there is to bring AE down.
prunes666 about 12 years ago
DaJaBelly! Yup, everwhere except for Maryland where we still have some of the tightest wiretap/privacy laws in the country.
ST Joe River about 12 years ago
My comics page changed this morning the lay out is gone any one else have that problem
ST Joe River about 12 years ago
Lev this is a comic no need to get the old blood pressure a going enjoy the strip for what it is. Plenty of stuff in the real world if you want to get all bound up and not enjoy the day.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member about 12 years ago
Hah! I knew TJ would be there and this should be fun!
Sean David about 12 years ago
WHY are Ox’s EARLOBES so big ???
weblais about 12 years ago
In civil suits, the courts generally sniff at the clandestine recording. Put another way, it’s more honored in the observance than in the breach.
jonnijones about 12 years ago
Love the “undercover boss” comment. we still don’t know anything about TJ
axsiter about 12 years ago
Seems like this panel ran yesterday
MDeB about 12 years ago
“Now, please explain this one to me.05-07-12”.Fraud. Pure and simple..I see it all now…TJ is Evil Incarnate. How could I have been so blind.
Naiad about 12 years ago
TJ could simply blackmail AE with the tapes, force her to quit her job. I have a feeling he is going to confront her and use them as leverage to get rid of her. That way, she is free to appear again at a later date, and continue to be a dastardly villain. Why have her put in jail when she can be used in another story line.
angusdad about 12 years ago
Oh I’m sure that Ox will back TJ up. It’s also possible that they could enlist others.
raceresq about 12 years ago
Of course this is only a Comic strip…BUT the recordings are not going to a court of law, probably get as far as the area supervisor, or company owner…or board room, or the head Weenie.
Popeyesforearm about 12 years ago
time to take down the Eiffel tower.
elysummers about 12 years ago
Well he doesn’ t need the money so it’s plausible.
eocene82 about 12 years ago
So no one complained all those times TJ blatantly cheated or hustled the customers?
Naiad about 12 years ago
Asking a customer about adding to their order, is very common now…not really considered hustling. Going to the movie theater, we are told we can go one size up on the soda for just 50 cents more, etc. Sometimes you will be told of specials that give you much more product for just a little more money. What TJ did was good salesmanship…what AE did was fraud or robbery besides cheating.
cubswin2016 about 12 years ago
Duh-d-duh-duh! (mystery music)
BRI-NO-MITE!! Premium Member about 12 years ago
Most of us have mixed feelings about TJ. He’s a weasel, but he has charm. I like him and I don’t like him, simultaneously. I stay away from guys like him in real life.
Doctor11 about 12 years ago
Ooh, I can’t wait to see Eiffel get fired AND arrested at the same time!
htownkev about 12 years ago
You must have been burned by a real life TJ.
htownkev about 12 years ago
Wow. For once I agree with you.
brdesert about 12 years ago
Wiretap laws:
If you are recording someone without their knowledge in a public or semi-public place like a street or restaurant, the person whom you’re recording may or may not have “an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation,” and the reasonableness of the expectation would depend on the particular factual circumstances. Therefore, you cannot necessarily assume that you are in the clear simply because you are in a public place.
If you are operating in California, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any conversation that common sense tells you might be “private” or “confidential.” In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the California wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See Cal. Penal Code § 637.2.
Ironhold about 12 years ago
As an MBA with a minor in marketing?[]There’s a difference between “upselling” and “cheating”.[]“Upselling” is a legitimate – but tricky and hard to pull off – strategy in which a sales worker convinces the customer to go from a smaller order to a bigger order. Good sales workers will appeal to how a larger order will benefit the customer, which is what TJ did. Only the bad sales workers will use intimidation or coercion. []What Anne did was fraud. She tried to charge a customer a greater price for an item than what was actually listed, and then tried to weasel her way out of it by charging him for additional product yet telling him it was “free”.
Ironhold about 12 years ago
As an aside, does anyone know if the town is supposed to be near a military base or not?[]Most US military bases maintain a “do not patronize list” denoting companies and organizations that have done wrong by service members and/or their families. []If the service member or their family gets wronged, then they can file a complaint with the appropriate on-base personnel, who will start an investigation. If the investigation turns up legitimate abuses, then the company or organization gets black-listed until conditions improve. This means that no service member stationed at that base or any of their dependents can patronize that facility. []All it’d take is for Anne to cross one service member like she did Ox, and Weenie World goes on the blacklist. I doubt that corporate would take kindly to such news.
luann1212 about 12 years ago
Interesting comments on legality of recording conversations in a public place; to bad this is not going to Supreme Court. Oh wait, I am an Obama supporter, and these privacy issues can be tricky with the court the way its constituted now. :) Regarding Luann I think it is probably safe to assume that in comic land there is no state or federal law criminalizing this conduct, and besides what a great story idea-TJ can blackmail Ann Eiffel! I bet Greg has a surprise or two up his sleeve on this arc though; perhaps someone has a large ownership interest in Weenie World? Ox comes from a wealthy family I think?? And we are never sure about TJ are we?
MathProf2 about 12 years ago
No one promotes a whistleblower.
MathProf2 about 12 years ago
I wonder if TJ has all that data backed up?
Kathy M T M about 12 years ago
Um- he added items, he did not overcharge. The customer could have said no thanks but he didn’t. Not the same at all…and btw – no one thinks TJ is Christ- how ridiculous is that? Take a chill pill.
Kathy M T M about 12 years ago
what if they’re both jerks? O_o
Lion_Tamer about 12 years ago
Difference being TJ actually sold the product before charging the correct price. A. I. tried to sell and item for twice its retail. There is a difference in up selling, getting a customer to purchase more than they originally intended, and blatantly over charging the customer for what they ordered.
Lion_Tamer about 12 years ago
Up-selling to me generally will not work, unless I was thinking in that way already, and if it is done without confirmation from me , I have canceled entire orders just like Ox.
SideshowStarlet about 12 years ago
Just realized that TJ’s thrusting out his chest and puckering his lips in the last panel. Am starting to get my groove back. Where’s Mojitobaby? I haven’t heard from her in a while.
lectricdude about 12 years ago
…I remember it too…that’s three…four anyone…do I hear a four?…somebody gimme a four here…gimme a four…hey four…oh never mind…
Liam Astle Premium Member about 12 years ago
“Ox, let me get you a hot dog and I’ll toss in a cookie all for three dollars,” T.J. says smiling beatifically.
imbaldeagle about 12 years ago
Make it five. I remember it, but don’t generally talk about it much.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member about 12 years ago
Late to the party, have read no comments, I’m sure I am stating what has been said before, but WOO WHO! LET’S BRING ANNIE BABY DOWN!
Peabody429 about 12 years ago
TJ is going to blackmail AE for some action!!!
caherrera about 12 years ago
Geez.T.J. looks so adorable when he says, “OO!”<3
tegm almost 12 years ago
the evil woman in charge again, huh.
Attila The Voice! almost 12 years ago
Uh ho, trouble for Miss E