Being land-locked like that must have been difficult for people from the coast, who’s families had mainly been fishermen for generations (At least that was the case of the Momiji** (Japanese Canadians)) ** Momiji is the name for what we call the Japanese Maple! Seeing as the symbol of Canada is the maple leaf, Canadians of Japanese descent use Momiji to describe themselves
Compliments to all of Team Tracy and George Takei for tackling a subject most Americans have never heard of (and some wouldn’t believe possible).Using it as the setting for a murder mystery is a great painless way to teach US history. (And yes, I know, a number of people have been saying the villain is a pedophile – as may be – but right now, Tracy is working on a murer case.)
Still hard to believe this happened in America. I know it did, of course, but just to think, President Roosevelt actually issued an Executive Order to round up American citizens and put them in detention camps. Even J. Edgar Hoover opposed the action. It was nothing less than an act of tyranny.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066
Today isn’t too far removed from then. Today, they’d round up the Conservatives. Except you’d see huge smokestacks^^Comments like this will get your name changed to Moron; I mean, really, what WERE you thinking?
Although I have the deepest respect and admiration for President Roosevelt. I will say that this is one of America’s worse acts ever. Even in the light of history it was still something that shouldn’t have even been /suggested/, much less carried out. You have my deepest regrets and sympathies, Mr. Takei for having to endure that. It is only equaled to the Indian Removal Act of 1830. Thank you however for sharing your experiences. My age? I’m 45, but also a minority in which we share.
I just got caught up on the Staton and Curtis era of Dick Tracy, and I am glad I did. Mike lives just down the road from me here in central Arkansas, which I discovered while voting at the Conway Library last November. I’m looking forward to more strips.
Many American citizens of different races and ethnic groups were rounded up and put into camps. A very large number of them were forced into very dangerous situations and thousands upon thousands were killed through no fault of their own.
Don’t forget, at the time no-one knew who would win the war, and an invasion was a definite possibility. Had Midway turned out the other way, it probably would have happened.
Viewing something in the light of history is easy. Viewing as a question of survival might not be the same. It is terrible to lose your liberty and your property. But some things are worse, and it happened to many. Be careful.
War is hell and it turns all participants into barbarians. That includes every war ever fought up to this day. It is a terrible fact of life.^^One of the many reasons that I am a dedicated pacifist :)
Gee, all this stuff is horrible, yes……….but the worst? Sorry, my vote goes to slavery……not only were blacks kept prisoner, but also often forced to work to exhaustion under deplorable conditions…..
Funny how executing people whose own greed leads to thousands of innocent people suffering horribly and sometimes even dying is so “barbaric” in return. Ok, I’m against the actual death penalty, but what happened to Bernie Madoff and company was very just in my opinion. And lets imagine a ficticious scenerio when say, we had a vice president who lied about, hmmmmm…let’s say, “weapons of mass destruction” and started a war so his company could amass great profits through war profiterring through exclusive no-bid contracts..knowing full well his actions would lead to the deaths of thousands of innocent men and women….what penalty would be just in his case? Sorry, but I have very little sympathy for people like the above…..and share Roseannes rage if not her solution..
Hmm… No comments about my earlier Hawai’i post. I was hoping for at least one.^^Perhaps because no one wanted to load that large file; is that video on You Tube, or anything?Btw, Canada is guilty of the same kind of Imperialism; albeit through peaceful channels:in 1670, the British gvmt granted a charter to the Hudson’s Bay company to trade for furs in the northern regions of Canada (Much to the frustration of the French Canadiens who lived just south of them in New France/Quebec colony); fast forward to 1867, Canada is now an English colony comprising the old New France, now devided into Upper (now Ontario) and Lower (now Quebec) Canada and most of the Maritime provinces to the East; however, Canadian Prime Minister John a MacDonald wants to expand Canada both North and West (To keep American hands off the prairies and to counter the threat in the North due to the American’s purchase of Alaska from Russia).To that end, MacDonald sought to buy the rights to what is now the western Provinces and Northern Canada, then known as “Rupert’s Land” after Prince Rupert, the original Royal investor in the Hudson’s Bay Company. The problem was, that the HBC did not ever actually purchase any of this land from the natives, their charter simply gave them trading rights, however, that didn’t stop the HBC from “selling” lands they didn’t own, and from the Canadian Gvmt from taking possession of the North and West; ironically, the native people living on these lands, seeing how the Americans (USA) treated their American Native relatives, to the south of the border lands, were eager to join the Canadian union, but, on their own terms; however, MacDonald wasn’t going to negotiate with “Savages” and had many of the Native leaders arrested and in some cases executed, such as Metis (the descendants of Native women and “white” men, mainly French speaking) leader, Louis Riel; under the excuse of quelling a “rebellion” (How can lands not officially yet part of Canada be in rebellion, simply for wanting to join the union as their own masters?) The so-called rebellions over, the MacDonald gvmt took possession, and to this day continue to deny the Metis their native rights.
For a nation that still suppressed its black population, why is it any surprise that we treated our citizens of Japanese ancestry the way we did. Both had a “different” appearance and were therefore to be viewed with suspicion by the (at that time) predominately white population. Would that we had learned our lesson and that all prejudice was gone from our society. PS: folks of German and Italian ancestry, while not interned, were also viewed with suspicion in many circles. Germans and Italians however, appear white.
Thank you for the cut and paste, or whatever you did, of today’a strip.Reading Dick Tracy on Sunday mornings have become a real treat thanks to the “new” team.
I continue to be astonished that FDR gets merely a “slap on the wrist” historically for this. Just in this thread, I have seen it posted so many times: “I respect FDR, but…” “FDR was a great man, but…”
We really can’t compare the intermenet of Japanese Americans in WWII to the Indian Removal act of 1830. One was an ill consived plan out of war fears and the other was due to pure greed and westward expansion
Before we judge what was done to Japanese-American in WWII, one must understand that at Pearl Harbor – American was attacked by the Imperial Japanese – unprovoked – and fears ran high. It doesn’t make it “right” but gives an understanding of why FDR acted as he did.
America trully belived the Japanese would attack the West Coast and “Resident Aliens” and disloyal Japanese American would aid them. Since they rounded up most of the Japanese/Japanese Americans on the west coast,we’ll never know if they would have happened.
As for “Deaths” in the camps,the death rate was no higher than the norm in American in those days – you are talking over 100,000 people in the combined camps.
Point worth noting, The DOJ,Army and FBI had their own seperate detention centers.
Don’t get me wrong Dems and GOP’s, I’m just saying I’m against the NDDA. It passed them all, and our Prez signed it. If you think it’s a good law, argue that if you like.
…have no idea why they had to bomb BOTH Hiroshima and Nagasaki…….one time would’ve proved we had the A-bomb. (of course, after reading “The Nanking Massacre” my sympathy lessens considerably towards the Japanese)
cpalmeresq almost 12 years ago
Good for George Takai to lend his support to this story!
60sFan almost 12 years ago
Now we’re getting down to the nitty gritty…
margueritem almost 12 years ago
I await the next panel.
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Being land-locked like that must have been difficult for people from the coast, who’s families had mainly been fishermen for generations (At least that was the case of the Momiji** (Japanese Canadians)) ** Momiji is the name for what we call the Japanese Maple! Seeing as the symbol of Canada is the maple leaf, Canadians of Japanese descent use Momiji to describe themselves
Sisyphos almost 12 years ago
The account of the camp begins. Where will it lead? How will it end?
Can't Sleep almost 12 years ago
Compliments to all of Team Tracy and George Takei for tackling a subject most Americans have never heard of (and some wouldn’t believe possible).Using it as the setting for a murder mystery is a great painless way to teach US history. (And yes, I know, a number of people have been saying the villain is a pedophile – as may be – but right now, Tracy is working on a murer case.)
willy007 almost 12 years ago
Still hard to believe this happened in America. I know it did, of course, but just to think, President Roosevelt actually issued an Executive Order to round up American citizens and put them in detention camps. Even J. Edgar Hoover opposed the action. It was nothing less than an act of tyranny.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
You’re replying to morrow’s comment:
Today isn’t too far removed from then. Today, they’d round up the Conservatives. Except you’d see huge smokestacks^^Comments like this will get your name changed to Moron; I mean, really, what WERE you thinking?
Vista Bill Raley and Comet™ almost 12 years ago
Good morning everyone…
kantuck-nadie almost 12 years ago
Although I have the deepest respect and admiration for President Roosevelt. I will say that this is one of America’s worse acts ever. Even in the light of history it was still something that shouldn’t have even been /suggested/, much less carried out. You have my deepest regrets and sympathies, Mr. Takei for having to endure that. It is only equaled to the Indian Removal Act of 1830. Thank you however for sharing your experiences. My age? I’m 45, but also a minority in which we share.
- Kan
Firewater almost 12 years ago
I just got caught up on the Staton and Curtis era of Dick Tracy, and I am glad I did. Mike lives just down the road from me here in central Arkansas, which I discovered while voting at the Conway Library last November. I’m looking forward to more strips.
Jerry1967 almost 12 years ago
Sad but true, Lonnie. Wonder what turned Roseanne into a barbarian?
charlie almost 12 years ago
Many American citizens of different races and ethnic groups were rounded up and put into camps. A very large number of them were forced into very dangerous situations and thousands upon thousands were killed through no fault of their own.
Don’t forget, at the time no-one knew who would win the war, and an invasion was a definite possibility. Had Midway turned out the other way, it probably would have happened.
Viewing something in the light of history is easy. Viewing as a question of survival might not be the same. It is terrible to lose your liberty and your property. But some things are worse, and it happened to many. Be careful.
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Brazillian, perhaps?
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
You’re replying to Night-Gaunt49’s comment:
Okay, that crosses the line. But who said it? You left no name and it is now deleted.^^it does say actually, read again.
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
You’re replying to Lonnie Cavenee’s comment:
War is hell and it turns all participants into barbarians. That includes every war ever fought up to this day. It is a terrible fact of life.^^One of the many reasons that I am a dedicated pacifist :)
fredville almost 12 years ago
Gee, all this stuff is horrible, yes……….but the worst? Sorry, my vote goes to slavery……not only were blacks kept prisoner, but also often forced to work to exhaustion under deplorable conditions…..
fredville almost 12 years ago
Funny how executing people whose own greed leads to thousands of innocent people suffering horribly and sometimes even dying is so “barbaric” in return. Ok, I’m against the actual death penalty, but what happened to Bernie Madoff and company was very just in my opinion. And lets imagine a ficticious scenerio when say, we had a vice president who lied about, hmmmmm…let’s say, “weapons of mass destruction” and started a war so his company could amass great profits through war profiterring through exclusive no-bid contracts..knowing full well his actions would lead to the deaths of thousands of innocent men and women….what penalty would be just in his case? Sorry, but I have very little sympathy for people like the above…..and share Roseannes rage if not her solution..
Tarry Plaguer almost 12 years ago
Hmm… No comments about my earlier Hawai’i post. I was hoping for at least one.
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
@Tarry Plaguer
You’re replying to Tarry Plaguer’s comment:
Hmm… No comments about my earlier Hawai’i post. I was hoping for at least one.^^Perhaps because no one wanted to load that large file; is that video on You Tube, or anything?Btw, Canada is guilty of the same kind of Imperialism; albeit through peaceful channels:in 1670, the British gvmt granted a charter to the Hudson’s Bay company to trade for furs in the northern regions of Canada (Much to the frustration of the French Canadiens who lived just south of them in New France/Quebec colony); fast forward to 1867, Canada is now an English colony comprising the old New France, now devided into Upper (now Ontario) and Lower (now Quebec) Canada and most of the Maritime provinces to the East; however, Canadian Prime Minister John a MacDonald wants to expand Canada both North and West (To keep American hands off the prairies and to counter the threat in the North due to the American’s purchase of Alaska from Russia).To that end, MacDonald sought to buy the rights to what is now the western Provinces and Northern Canada, then known as “Rupert’s Land” after Prince Rupert, the original Royal investor in the Hudson’s Bay Company. The problem was, that the HBC did not ever actually purchase any of this land from the natives, their charter simply gave them trading rights, however, that didn’t stop the HBC from “selling” lands they didn’t own, and from the Canadian Gvmt from taking possession of the North and West; ironically, the native people living on these lands, seeing how the Americans (USA) treated their American Native relatives, to the south of the border lands, were eager to join the Canadian union, but, on their own terms; however, MacDonald wasn’t going to negotiate with “Savages” and had many of the Native leaders arrested and in some cases executed, such as Metis (the descendants of Native women and “white” men, mainly French speaking) leader, Louis Riel; under the excuse of quelling a “rebellion” (How can lands not officially yet part of Canada be in rebellion, simply for wanting to join the union as their own masters?) The so-called rebellions over, the MacDonald gvmt took possession, and to this day continue to deny the Metis their native rights.
ronpolimeni almost 12 years ago
For a nation that still suppressed its black population, why is it any surprise that we treated our citizens of Japanese ancestry the way we did. Both had a “different” appearance and were therefore to be viewed with suspicion by the (at that time) predominately white population. Would that we had learned our lesson and that all prejudice was gone from our society. PS: folks of German and Italian ancestry, while not interned, were also viewed with suspicion in many circles. Germans and Italians however, appear white.
doctor075 almost 12 years ago
And a German POW camp near Alva Oklahoma.
60sFan almost 12 years ago
Uh oh, the Sunday strip is overdue. Hope it’s not another “here we go again” kind of day.
willy007 almost 12 years ago
That is a sad tale.
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
You’re replying to helloimjohnnycat’s comment:
Cry me a rivet, Rosie-boy !^^ Why don’t you go wash your sheet somewhere, you loser?
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Why hasn’t Johnny cat smell been banned from GoComics yet? From what I’ve heard, people have been banned for less than what he puts on his posts
Mdstudio almost 12 years ago
Two sad stories today if you include the hall of fame story.
punchydugan almost 12 years ago
Thank you for the cut and paste, or whatever you did, of today’a strip.Reading Dick Tracy on Sunday mornings have become a real treat thanks to the “new” team.
scottmandew almost 12 years ago
Thanks for posting today’s strip, Willy007! I see that today’s Brewster Rockit is also missing… anyone know why this happens now and again?
Warren Snaider Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Thanks for the link. Cried all the way through the video.
johnrussco almost 12 years ago
Obviously they had to have those camps to survive, but how sad that we as a nation would put humans through that sort of thing!
Morrow Cummings almost 12 years ago
Johnnycat, once again, you have stolen the Troll Trophy of the month from our resident troll. SDMPH, attack! Sic ’em, boy! Grrrr!
Max Starman Jones almost 12 years ago
I continue to be astonished that FDR gets merely a “slap on the wrist” historically for this. Just in this thread, I have seen it posted so many times: “I respect FDR, but…” “FDR was a great man, but…”
Why do we keep covering FDR’s “but?”
Warren Snaider Premium Member almost 12 years ago
I looked at it on the Seattle PI’s site but it’s not as large as yours. And there are no comments over there. Thanks very much for your efforts.
trimguy almost 12 years ago
Today, you see the TeaBaggers trying to round up the Muslims.
JCFremont almost 12 years ago
Thanks for both of the links. I wasn’t planning on watching all 25 minutes of that first one, but once I started, I just couldn’t stop.
Also, thanks to Willy007 for posting today’s strip.
mzkdad almost 12 years ago
http://www.comicstripnation.com/dick-tracy/index.html for Sunay
Tarry Plaguer almost 12 years ago
George Takei -How Internment Shaped My LifeGeorge Takei -How Asians Reacted to Sulu on Star Trek
somedae almost 12 years ago
Where is Dick Tracy for Jan 27th? today Sunday
retropop almost 12 years ago
We really can’t compare the intermenet of Japanese Americans in WWII to the Indian Removal act of 1830. One was an ill consived plan out of war fears and the other was due to pure greed and westward expansion
Before we judge what was done to Japanese-American in WWII, one must understand that at Pearl Harbor – American was attacked by the Imperial Japanese – unprovoked – and fears ran high. It doesn’t make it “right” but gives an understanding of why FDR acted as he did.
America trully belived the Japanese would attack the West Coast and “Resident Aliens” and disloyal Japanese American would aid them. Since they rounded up most of the Japanese/Japanese Americans on the west coast,we’ll never know if they would have happened.
As for “Deaths” in the camps,the death rate was no higher than the norm in American in those days – you are talking over 100,000 people in the combined camps.Point worth noting, The DOJ,Army and FBI had their own seperate detention centers.
coldsooner almost 12 years ago
Don’t get me wrong Dems and GOP’s, I’m just saying I’m against the NDDA. It passed them all, and our Prez signed it. If you think it’s a good law, argue that if you like.
fredville almost 12 years ago
………….suggest reading The Washington Post the day BEFORE the Pearl Harbor bombings….real eye opener.
fredville almost 12 years ago
…have no idea why they had to bomb BOTH Hiroshima and Nagasaki…….one time would’ve proved we had the A-bomb. (of course, after reading “The Nanking Massacre” my sympathy lessens considerably towards the Japanese)
fredville almost 12 years ago
….so what DO they have in common, J-Cat? They all did great jobs in rising to political prominence, but I doubt that’s what you meant……..