For Better or For Worse by Lynn Johnston for March 28, 2014

This is soooo true…even though this comic is no longer a new daily every day, I don’t things have changed much since then… ;)

Waitress having a bad day? Look how she is giving good service to that man in the background.

Oh, gosh, so much HAS changed. There have been types of progress for women that I never expected in my lifetime due to hard work by so many women then, but other needed improvements like the ratification by enough states of the Equal Rights Amendment still have not happened, and while women earn more now than then compared to each dollar a man earns it still is only about 3/4 of the pay for the same work. Many issues that killed women and violently victimized women are safer situations now. But for our day to day lives we still lack the legal equality that we deserve.

BTW, the women I have known have often been better tippers percentage-wise than our hubbies, not always of course, but tipping generosity is not based on gender.The meal will result in a better tip than coffee, though, unless the diner is a jerk. The two occupied tables are also a distance apart so the women might be in the station of different but missing waitstaff.

You only get lousy service if you put up with it. If I got terrible service like this I’d complain to management. Crappy service is crappy service and management knows an unhappy customer is unlikely to come back and spend more money on a larger meal.

“BTW, the women I have known have often been better tippers percentage-wise than our hubbies, not always of course”

“but tipping generosity is not based on gender.”

LOL! So typical. After telling us how virtuous and better women are, then you say “not based on gender”. I often notice how militant and dishonest feminists tend to be. Really quite disgusting, when they then try to portray themselves as so wonderful.

She sucks. Plain and simple.

No tip for you.

I was surprised to learn that the biggest obstacle a woman has to overcome to become president is the women’s vote.

am i the only one who thinks that the waitress might be treating them that way cause she thinks they’re a couple?

One reason that Americans have such an aversion to discussing their salaries is that we’ve been trained not to. I’ve always understood the reason to be that management does not want employees to know how much different the wages are between different employees in the same jobs – regardless of gender. The important issue is, did I negotiate the best wage I could get based on what I bring to the table and what I am willing to accept as compensation. Since we are differ in skills, attitude, aptitude, and desire for reward, it is not at all surprising that wages will differ from one person to the next.

No tip for her !!!! 8^(

I was on both ends of the table and you’re supposed to treat people the way you want to be treated and if I treated a customer the way that waitress did, I’d hear about it and if I got treated like that as a customer, the Manager would hear about it

Amen, sister

Women who have relied on tips are good tippers. Women who have never worked in the service industry are a pain for they don’t seem to realize work entailed.

It looks like Elly and her new friend ought to have just gone to Tim Hortons for their coffee if that’s all they’re having. Just order at the counter and take your cups to a table and don’t worry about a tip.

@goweeder

I read cmtlaugh differently. It COULD be that cmtlaugh is as angry at this possible homophobia as you are. Then again you might be right. Hard to know.

Boy, I wish my weekend trips last as long as Elly’s has—at least a week ! ! !

Women had / have a rep for not tipping well, so they get bad service, so they leave a bad tip…sigh

Possibly has to do with the fact that she dumped the creamer on the table together with a dismissive look . .

The fact is, that there are some women who will treat men better than women in this sitution and it has nothing to do with tip or any other reason.

As I said to the person you said that women are bad tippers, in the group of people I know the wives are typically better tippers than their hubbies, but the tipping is not gender dependent. I suspect it varies depending on multiple factors including how many of the individuals themselves did “menial” or lower paying jobs (higher rate in the female grouping w my crowd). Hey, what do I know, one of the jobs that i could wrap around class schedules that I did in the ‘70s while putting myself through undergrad and grad education focused in math and two fields of science, was being a maid… (Usually I had two part time jobs and a full class load.)Your math is off on salaries earned, waaaaaaay off. Women still earn considerably less than men and also are more likely to have jobs in which non-salary compensation (perks) are lower.Ginny, my point was that different waitstaff was perhaps SUPPOSED to be working but was not so one waitress was maybe working two stations; in such a case it is best to sit less spread out. Just good manners toward a waitress when that situation happens, so both may be at fault on that score, with the waitress overtly rude but the two women maybe being unkind in a way they had not realized. Waitstaff get tired feet and arms, especially late in a shift. Extra steps matter.Ah, someone w a good memory! An observant lady notes:“I remember that the reason we were told that we did not need the ERA was because the 14th Amendment covered it. And then in 2011. Anton Scalia said “No, it doesn’t.” "Yes. We were also told that women did not die serving in war, which was news to me, having known women who did. Otis Pike and I used to have a spirited and friendly exchange of letters on this, sometimes agreeing and sometimes not. Granted, the female troops death rate is lower given types of assignments but with hundreds of women having died in the latest wars and recent assignment changes that will narrow that rate even more people need to better honor women’s war sacrifices, too.The text of the ERA is very simple and gives no special coverage under the law to anyone. In FULL it reads:Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.

I’m a 67 year old women, and never in my life have I been treated that way. Either by a waitress or a waiter. If I had, the Manager or Owner would have heard about it before I left. BTW I always give a bigger tip than my husband.

I think the best tippers are the ones who have waited tables themselves – men or women. My husband and I tip 25% sometimes more because we know how hard it is and how so many things are out of your control when you wait tables but it is your pay that pay gets docked (by lack of tip) for everything – bad food, snotty hostess, loud people at the next table etc. That being said a smile is a waitress best friend!

I also do not buy the idea women tip better. I have seen my mother in law leave a quarter for a $10 lunch and several women friends who will dock the waitress’s tip for being to flirty to their husband although it is usually the women with the husbands that flirt back

While many of you have been going on about gender inequality, how about this one. Actuarially speaking, women live almost 7 years longer than men. For women who never give birth, the gap is over 10 years. What’s wrong with our societies that this is so, or do you just take for granted that men SHOULD live shorter lives than women. But then, I guess that’s easier than looking for why this is so.

REALLY? You are quibbling over a measeley TWO CENTS????

For those here who will appreciate it:“I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat.” ― Rebecca WestSquirrel, exactly about knowing both sides! Knowing the other side of the situation makes a big difference. We are not as flush as we once were but it takes a lot done wrong for us to tip less than 20%. In some situations w exceptional service we have tipped 30% or more. Another thing that gets to me is how many people assume that anyone doing things like waitressing, maid types of work, gardening, child care, homemaking, etc. must be [fit in HERE any of the choices of insults too many people use] despite the day to day importance of those jobs being done well and the challenges of those jobs which people who have not done them do not realize. In my group of friends the wives ARE more likely to have personal experience with the “other side of the coin” so are more inclined to tip well. In some other groups that will vary. Tipping well is not a gender trait. The point that there are women who tip well arose when some made the blanket statement that women tip badly.The best tipper I know is a woman and the best one she knew was a man. He left her a three figure tip on a slice of pizza when she was living hand to mouth trying to break into modeling. She still will ask the restaurant owners she knows if any of the waitstaff are having very hard times and if so will leave them tips well, well, well beyond the cost of her meal no matter what she ordered.Lifespan does not work into annual salaries. The 23% difference in income per gender holds, and if perks are worked in then the difference is a bit worse.Women living longer is partially hormonal, but there are studies showing that among retiree couples women usually do much more of the physical work like dusting, vacuuming, bed making, meal preparation, dish washing, straightening, etc. and that difference in time spent being physically active every single day perhaps adds up to as much as a few years of better survival, not only longer, but in better shape. I have heard young male gerontology experts (given that we are now seniors ourselves and still have some relatives in their 90s of the older generation so know too many such physicians) assert that the best health advance their male patients could have would be a more equal division of the daily physical household chores, and if they will not do that then men at least should sit much less and exercise more to make up the difference. In my high school class it is amazing how much more healthy most of the very physical class members apparently are compared to the rest, no matter their gender. Some just exercise, some already have very physical jobs, some DO share the day to day work more evenly. Either way, they help improve their quality and quantity of life.

If the waitress’ behavior is based on her assumptions of sexual orientation, then that is itself a sad but all too real shame upon her. I love a man and am glad that I do, so I am not going to object to ANYONE else loving a man. After all these decades he still loves me and I am very honored and glad that he does, so I sure am not going to object to ANYONE loving a woman.

I have said this for 50 years.. and guess what … we still don’t treat each other nice… Pretty sad.. and my Granddaughter is just starting to see it too..

Had bad treatment at Perkins twice, on a long trip. Two different locations. I don’t plan to go their anymore, they don’t treat women with “any” respect.

Most of the comments seem to be trying to excuse or justify the waitresses attitude. Why don’t someone just stand up and tell her that her attitude sucks, bigtime.. That she can take her coffee or cream and shove it……