pesticides…..who wants to eat food that pesticides were sprayed on?
anybody?— THAT is the big deal about organic foods
Organically grown foods are not sprayed with chemicals
That means less health harming chemicals on the food that you and your family may consume. Keep in mind that pesticides are created with only one purpose, to kill living things. A certain kind of protection might be dangerous.
Pest control must be done with utmost consideration to safety; safety in terms of the plants, animals and humans.
On the average, a child ingests four to five times more cancer-causing pesticides from foods than an adult. This can lead to various diseases later on in the child’s life. With
organic gardening, these incidents are lessened.
Organically grown foods are nutritious and full of taste although they may not look as colorful and well presented as shop produce.
without pesticides and preservatives, we’re vulnerable to various infectious diseases.
so I guess you gotta choose your poison…
but, for the most part, i agree with nighthawks. we should rely less on chemicals that replace one risk with another. so we need to find less toxic ways to keep the rats, bugs, bacteria and fungi from getting to our food before we do.
and maybe get used to the idea that we have to do major surgery on our fruits and veggies before we eat them…
What’s so special about natural and/or organic ingredients?
High fructose corn syrup has mercury in it. that’s one example.
another example is if corn fed cows shifted to grass for five days they would shed 80% of the E.coli in their gut.
In pastuerized milk all the bad bacteria go away, but all the good bacteria does too. the good bacteria in milk can prevent, Allergies, Asthma and many other things. after the milk get’s pastuerized the bad bacteria grows back, but not the good bacteria.
those are just three examples, but it makes sense that if we mess with, Corn, What cows eat and milk it’s bad. it’s better organic because our bodies are made for the food that grows naturally. Think about it logically; God made us, God made the food, the food is made for us. if you are an Athiest it still makes more sense logically; we have been around for 2 billion years eating organic food but it’s not the best for us?
if are immune system has been working ever since humans have been around why vaccinate? deaths from flu in children in 2000: 19 2001 15 (these are approximit) in 2002 flu shots became mandatory deaths that year? 79 vaccine also have mercury.
I’ll just add one more comment about natural foods. Many of the processed foods that people eat have artificial dyes, preservatives and hydrogenated oils, which are not so natural. Cyanide, while naturally occurring in some foods, isn’t typically added to food.
Hey everybody, I’m all for less pesticides and natural ingredients. My point was that labels can be deceiving, and that you have to look at the whole picture. It is amazing to me how a simple word or phrase (like ‘all natural’) can turn off someones thinking processes.
What’s so special about natural and/or organic ingredients?
High fructose corn syrup has mercury in it. that’s one example.
Just about everything has some concentration of mercury and a whole bunch of other toxins. You have to ask important questions like “how much?”, “how much is biologically available?”, “how much is harmful?” and “how does this compare with other foods?”.
Don’t just scare people by saying that “x has y”, where y is commonly known to be dangerous. (There is gold dissolved in seawater. That doesn’t mean that the concentration is high enough to make it worth separating out.) Put the appropriate numbers in so people can determine if the threat is real.
another example is if corn fed cows shifted to grass for five days they would shed 80% of the E.coli in their gut.
I’m not a farmer or a vet, but my guess is that cows are supposed to have E. coli in their guts. Their ability to digest grass depends on symbiotic relationships with little things living in various parts of their tummies. AFAIK, their digestive systems are rather sensitive to changes in their diets, at least in part because their gut flora are adapted to particular foods.
So it wouldn’t surprise me if a sudden change from corn to grass (or the other way around) would lead to a large drop in gut bacteria population, and a rather unhappy cow.
Anybody out there with some real scientific data to shed a little light on the issue?
Had I meant feces, I would have said feces… I was using the slangy (and rather childish…) term “poop” in a wide and humorous sense, to include any non-gaseous substance exiting the back end of the digestive system…
sigh…
(“Had I meant whirlybird, I would have said whirlybird.” - Linus VanPelt)
Doty – Thank you. I’d never heard that explained before, and you did it well. Answered one of those questions I’d never gotten around to finding the answer for.
What a truly brilliant display of illogic above: the implication that there’s any meaningful connection between high-quality organic food and low life expectancy!
A truly major reason why life expectancy was so much less in 1900 was the risk of infectious disease (and much of that was due to poor sanitation). Another was very poor working conditions for many people. Not all the food that people ate was good either. Tobacco smoking was rife, as was drug addiction. Basic medical care was hard to come by for many.
Great strides in extending life were made when sulfa drugs and then antibiotics became widely used, among many other medical techniques, yet such techniques are not without their problems.
If I remember what a friend who has a Ph.D. in public health told me correctly, improved sanitation is far and away the biggest reason why our life expectancy in the U.S. and the Western world has gone up so much. But now we’re suffering other problems because of other things we’re doing wrong. It’s as if humanity is playing ethical Whack-a-Mole: as soon as it taps down one problem, another pops up elsewhere.
zev.farkas, you’re right, look at the numbers. go to a gas station walk down the isle and read the ingredients. how many items are in the store? and how many of them have HFS?
also i googled ” how much mercury is in HFS” over and over and over. all the pages said “mercury is in HFS” but none of them said how much.that seems suspicious because corn manufacturers would pay millions to keep the amount out of the news.
still that’s like drinking poison because it’s only a little and it tastes good.
You are also right about E.coli. E.coli is natural, but in your intestines. If you get it any where else in your body, you die. there is a movie called food inc., that is very enlightening.
Follow this link
http://www.fda.gov/food/foodsafety/foodborneillness/foodborneillnessfoodbornepathogensnaturaltoxins/badbugbook/ucm071284.htm
you don’t have to read the whole thing. You can just skim over it if you want.
another enlightening movie is called king corn. HFS has tons of chemicals in it.
i don’t believe there are this many people pro-organic.
i thought i was just one weirdo out of not that many.
although it’s not that weird if you are pro-organic
last pro-organic thing right here follow this link. it’s from a christian perspective but that doesn’t make any less true.
http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/2010/february/08/science-fiction-horror-story/
Llewellenbruce over 14 years ago
Now that’s GROSS.
alviebird over 14 years ago
What’s so special about natural and/or organic ingredients?
Cyanide is a natural organic ingredient.
Dkram over 14 years ago
Never, never ask, never.
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Nighthawks Premium Member over 14 years ago
pesticides…..who wants to eat food that pesticides were sprayed on?
anybody?— THAT is the big deal about organic foods
Organically grown foods are not sprayed with chemicals That means less health harming chemicals on the food that you and your family may consume. Keep in mind that pesticides are created with only one purpose, to kill living things. A certain kind of protection might be dangerous.
Pest control must be done with utmost consideration to safety; safety in terms of the plants, animals and humans.
On the average, a child ingests four to five times more cancer-causing pesticides from foods than an adult. This can lead to various diseases later on in the child’s life. With organic gardening, these incidents are lessened.
Organically grown foods are nutritious and full of taste although they may not look as colorful and well presented as shop produce.
dsom8 over 14 years ago
Closer to home than you think. We love honey in spite of it being bee puke.
RubberRules over 14 years ago
cat bleeep is a kind of perfume truffles are delicacy
why not toad vomit? maybe it wid turn u into a prince.
zev.farkas over 14 years ago
ambergris is whale poop, used in perfumes.
without pesticides and preservatives, we’re vulnerable to various infectious diseases.
so I guess you gotta choose your poison…
but, for the most part, i agree with nighthawks. we should rely less on chemicals that replace one risk with another. so we need to find less toxic ways to keep the rats, bugs, bacteria and fungi from getting to our food before we do.
and maybe get used to the idea that we have to do major surgery on our fruits and veggies before we eat them…
pilover3.1415926 over 14 years ago
thebird55 said, about 7 hours ago
What’s so special about natural and/or organic ingredients?
High fructose corn syrup has mercury in it. that’s one example.
another example is if corn fed cows shifted to grass for five days they would shed 80% of the E.coli in their gut.
In pastuerized milk all the bad bacteria go away, but all the good bacteria does too. the good bacteria in milk can prevent, Allergies, Asthma and many other things. after the milk get’s pastuerized the bad bacteria grows back, but not the good bacteria.
those are just three examples, but it makes sense that if we mess with, Corn, What cows eat and milk it’s bad. it’s better organic because our bodies are made for the food that grows naturally. Think about it logically; God made us, God made the food, the food is made for us. if you are an Athiest it still makes more sense logically; we have been around for 2 billion years eating organic food but it’s not the best for us?
lewisbower over 14 years ago
NIGHTHAWK Thanks for the info. Guess people starving is better than ingesting poison.
1900 45 average life expectancy
2010 78 average life expectancy
Science is killing us all. Let’s go back to the good old days
pilover3.1415926 over 14 years ago
here’s another
if are immune system has been working ever since humans have been around why vaccinate? deaths from flu in children in 2000: 19 2001 15 (these are approximit) in 2002 flu shots became mandatory deaths that year? 79 vaccine also have mercury.
gobblingup Premium Member over 14 years ago
I’ll just add one more comment about natural foods. Many of the processed foods that people eat have artificial dyes, preservatives and hydrogenated oils, which are not so natural. Cyanide, while naturally occurring in some foods, isn’t typically added to food.
alviebird over 14 years ago
Hey everybody, I’m all for less pesticides and natural ingredients. My point was that labels can be deceiving, and that you have to look at the whole picture. It is amazing to me how a simple word or phrase (like ‘all natural’) can turn off someones thinking processes.
All natural = Must be good.
NOT!
freeholder1 over 14 years ago
Imagine the harm if it had been INorganic.
zev.farkas over 14 years ago
pilover3.1415926 said, about 2 hours ago
thebird55 said, about 7 hours ago
What’s so special about natural and/or organic ingredients?
High fructose corn syrup has mercury in it. that’s one example.
Just about everything has some concentration of mercury and a whole bunch of other toxins. You have to ask important questions like “how much?”, “how much is biologically available?”, “how much is harmful?” and “how does this compare with other foods?”.
Don’t just scare people by saying that “x has y”, where y is commonly known to be dangerous. (There is gold dissolved in seawater. That doesn’t mean that the concentration is high enough to make it worth separating out.) Put the appropriate numbers in so people can determine if the threat is real.
another example is if corn fed cows shifted to grass for five days they would shed 80% of the E.coli in their gut.
I’m not a farmer or a vet, but my guess is that cows are supposed to have E. coli in their guts. Their ability to digest grass depends on symbiotic relationships with little things living in various parts of their tummies. AFAIK, their digestive systems are rather sensitive to changes in their diets, at least in part because their gut flora are adapted to particular foods.
So it wouldn’t surprise me if a sudden change from corn to grass (or the other way around) would lead to a large drop in gut bacteria population, and a rather unhappy cow.
Anybody out there with some real scientific data to shed a little light on the issue?
ChukLitl Premium Member over 14 years ago
The Wiz would never use artificial toad vomit. You do not want to know what they put in that disgusting stuff.
jpozenel over 14 years ago
Today’s strip is so much better in color!
JP Steve Premium Member over 14 years ago
Pratchett alert:
Does toad vomit have the same active ingredients as dried frog pills?
ottod Premium Member over 14 years ago
Hey! Rodney’s not worried about his nerves any more!
zev.farkas over 14 years ago
JA Doty -
Thank you for that “pearl” of wisdom… ;-)
Had I meant feces, I would have said feces… I was using the slangy (and rather childish…) term “poop” in a wide and humorous sense, to include any non-gaseous substance exiting the back end of the digestive system…
sigh…
(“Had I meant whirlybird, I would have said whirlybird.” - Linus VanPelt)
artybee over 14 years ago
Doty – Thank you. I’d never heard that explained before, and you did it well. Answered one of those questions I’d never gotten around to finding the answer for.
Rakkav over 14 years ago
What a truly brilliant display of illogic above: the implication that there’s any meaningful connection between high-quality organic food and low life expectancy!
A truly major reason why life expectancy was so much less in 1900 was the risk of infectious disease (and much of that was due to poor sanitation). Another was very poor working conditions for many people. Not all the food that people ate was good either. Tobacco smoking was rife, as was drug addiction. Basic medical care was hard to come by for many.
Great strides in extending life were made when sulfa drugs and then antibiotics became widely used, among many other medical techniques, yet such techniques are not without their problems.
If I remember what a friend who has a Ph.D. in public health told me correctly, improved sanitation is far and away the biggest reason why our life expectancy in the U.S. and the Western world has gone up so much. But now we’re suffering other problems because of other things we’re doing wrong. It’s as if humanity is playing ethical Whack-a-Mole: as soon as it taps down one problem, another pops up elsewhere.
pilover3.1415926 over 14 years ago
zev.farkas, you’re right, look at the numbers. go to a gas station walk down the isle and read the ingredients. how many items are in the store? and how many of them have HFS? also i googled ” how much mercury is in HFS” over and over and over. all the pages said “mercury is in HFS” but none of them said how much.that seems suspicious because corn manufacturers would pay millions to keep the amount out of the news. still that’s like drinking poison because it’s only a little and it tastes good.
You are also right about E.coli. E.coli is natural, but in your intestines. If you get it any where else in your body, you die. there is a movie called food inc., that is very enlightening. Follow this link http://www.fda.gov/food/foodsafety/foodborneillness/foodborneillnessfoodbornepathogensnaturaltoxins/badbugbook/ucm071284.htm you don’t have to read the whole thing. You can just skim over it if you want.
another enlightening movie is called king corn. HFS has tons of chemicals in it.
pilover3.1415926 over 14 years ago
i don’t believe there are this many people pro-organic. i thought i was just one weirdo out of not that many. although it’s not that weird if you are pro-organic
last pro-organic thing right here follow this link. it’s from a christian perspective but that doesn’t make any less true. http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/2010/february/08/science-fiction-horror-story/