Maybe Daniel Snyder will change his team’s mascot to this:
True story: The intramural basketball team that came up with this name and mascot sold enough T-shirts with this image to fund the “Fightin’ Whites Minority Scholarship” at the University of Northern Colorado.
I noticed that White instant rice takes five minutes to cook. Brown instant rice takes 12 minutes. Is this a defacto case of white privilege? (I need a sarcasm font)
Ah yes, the typical arguments justifying racism were, of course, appallingly predictable. The name that Daniel Snyder’s football team sports is widely recognized as a slur—even the US Patent and Trademark office agreed that the name is disparaging and cancelled the trademark.
mdavis has somehow figured out that “most Indians” don’t mind that name. I wonder how mdavis came to this conclusion. As usual, the poster gives no evidence; rather, they have decided they are correct and toss out made-up morsels as if they are facts. (“Indian” itself is a problematic term, unless he’s talking about those folks in South Asia, in which case he’d probably also be right about them not really caring—they tend to refer to Native Americans as “Red Indians.”) In fact, there are very large numbers of Native Americans who find the name offensive, and the campaign to have the name removed is being spearheaded by Native American nations and organizations themselves.
indie thinks he’s being clever by coming up with other instances where the words “red” and “skin” are used, sometimes even together. And even when other colors are used in compound terms! Impressive. But he fails to address the central slur. Even as he realizes that the particular use of words can change their meaning—hence his whole “bean” campaign. Through his post, indie at least tacitly approves of the racial slur in question, though he seems incapable of actually writing it down as a single word.
And sue conflates historic documents with the continued use of a slur for commercial profit. It’s puzzling that sue would justify the continued use of a racial slur in the name of recognizing people’s suffering. It’s akin to justifying the use of pejoratives for black folks in recognition of slavery, or of Jewish folks in remembrance of the Holocaust. Try putting “noble” on the front of any of those slurs, and what does it get you? The word “noble” in front of a racist slur.
The fact is, Daniel Snyder’s team is trading on a racial slur. This is different from, say, the Florida State Seminoles, who are strongly supported by the Seminole nation. To the point that the Seminole nation helped create the costume for FSU’s Chief Osceola mascot. The FSU case is an example of a team invoking a people with respect. Daniel Snyder’s team is not.
Satisfied about some things, sure. It’s a comfortable, predictable day, one where you exclusively attack the poster rather than the argument. Most likely because you’ve no actual rebuttal to make. If you do, though, it’d be great to see it!
But you have the opportunity to contribute to a substantive discussion. Why not take it? Is it that you’re happy with the level of discourse?
Oh, and Agrestic will certainly dislike this
It’s sort of natural to dislike when someone engages in nothing but ad hominem attacks and ignores the actual issues at hand. So yeah, I “dislike” it, but I’m not particularly bothered, since it’s par for the course. How about you? You’re seeming rather agitated there.
I feel special that I’m so incorporated into your consciousness that I’m actually the subject of your signature line. Like I said before, I get under your skin—and here’s proof!
I didn’t realize this was a competition. Really, I think that’s just in your own head.
No, I won’t go into specifics
Which is expected. But by not doing so, you cut out lines of communication, giving off the message (how ironic!) that you actually aren’t interested in it.
Pitch Infant
???
By the way, why do you yourself feel a need to keep replying to me? Me, I do it to keep a conversation going. And yes, this makes it predictable that I’ll very likely respond to your posts. So what drives your own predictable activity of replying to me?
Templo S.U.D. about 10 years ago
Gee, I don’t know… is it “fredskins”?
agrestic about 10 years ago
Maybe Daniel Snyder will change his team’s mascot to this:
True story: The intramural basketball team that came up with this name and mascot sold enough T-shirts with this image to fund the “Fightin’ Whites Minority Scholarship” at the University of Northern Colorado.
P51Strega about 10 years ago
Pilgrim’s Thanksgiving, Plymouth, Mass; I don’t think “Patriots” rhymes with Deadskins.
kaffekup about 10 years ago
I think they should bring back the “Atlanta Crackers” name back so all the cons can tell us it’s “Such a respectful name”.
dzw3030 about 10 years ago
I noticed that White instant rice takes five minutes to cook. Brown instant rice takes 12 minutes. Is this a defacto case of white privilege? (I need a sarcasm font)
agrestic about 10 years ago
Ah yes, the typical arguments justifying racism were, of course, appallingly predictable. The name that Daniel Snyder’s football team sports is widely recognized as a slur—even the US Patent and Trademark office agreed that the name is disparaging and cancelled the trademark.
mdavis has somehow figured out that “most Indians” don’t mind that name. I wonder how mdavis came to this conclusion. As usual, the poster gives no evidence; rather, they have decided they are correct and toss out made-up morsels as if they are facts. (“Indian” itself is a problematic term, unless he’s talking about those folks in South Asia, in which case he’d probably also be right about them not really caring—they tend to refer to Native Americans as “Red Indians.”) In fact, there are very large numbers of Native Americans who find the name offensive, and the campaign to have the name removed is being spearheaded by Native American nations and organizations themselves.
indie thinks he’s being clever by coming up with other instances where the words “red” and “skin” are used, sometimes even together. And even when other colors are used in compound terms! Impressive. But he fails to address the central slur. Even as he realizes that the particular use of words can change their meaning—hence his whole “bean” campaign. Through his post, indie at least tacitly approves of the racial slur in question, though he seems incapable of actually writing it down as a single word.
And sue conflates historic documents with the continued use of a slur for commercial profit. It’s puzzling that sue would justify the continued use of a racial slur in the name of recognizing people’s suffering. It’s akin to justifying the use of pejoratives for black folks in recognition of slavery, or of Jewish folks in remembrance of the Holocaust. Try putting “noble” on the front of any of those slurs, and what does it get you? The word “noble” in front of a racist slur.
The fact is, Daniel Snyder’s team is trading on a racial slur. This is different from, say, the Florida State Seminoles, who are strongly supported by the Seminole nation. To the point that the Seminole nation helped create the costume for FSU’s Chief Osceola mascot. The FSU case is an example of a team invoking a people with respect. Daniel Snyder’s team is not.
agrestic about 10 years ago
Agrestic must be very satisfied today.
Satisfied about some things, sure. It’s a comfortable, predictable day, one where you exclusively attack the poster rather than the argument. Most likely because you’ve no actual rebuttal to make. If you do, though, it’d be great to see it!
agrestic about 10 years ago
You’ve come to the wrong place.
But you have the opportunity to contribute to a substantive discussion. Why not take it? Is it that you’re happy with the level of discourse?
Oh, and Agrestic will certainly dislike this
It’s sort of natural to dislike when someone engages in nothing but ad hominem attacks and ignores the actual issues at hand. So yeah, I “dislike” it, but I’m not particularly bothered, since it’s par for the course. How about you? You’re seeming rather agitated there.
agrestic about 10 years ago
“He’s dead, Jim.”
agrestic about 10 years ago
Brown rice is better for you. Less processed.
Not just less processed, but it keeps the bran, which has fiber and more of those good micronutrients than white rice.
agrestic about 10 years ago
I feel special that I’m so incorporated into your consciousness that I’m actually the subject of your signature line. Like I said before, I get under your skin—and here’s proof!
agrestic about 10 years ago
Yes, Agrestic, as usual, you win
I didn’t realize this was a competition. Really, I think that’s just in your own head.
No, I won’t go into specifics
Which is expected. But by not doing so, you cut out lines of communication, giving off the message (how ironic!) that you actually aren’t interested in it.
Pitch Infant
???
By the way, why do you yourself feel a need to keep replying to me? Me, I do it to keep a conversation going. And yes, this makes it predictable that I’ll very likely respond to your posts. So what drives your own predictable activity of replying to me?
ORMouseworks about 10 years ago
Unfortunately the Native American was right when he said “deadskins”…
ORMouseworks about 10 years ago
Okay…I usually don’t reference your posts…but, darned if I can’t see the “cockroach” in the ’toon…
ORMouseworks about 10 years ago
Should read: …darned if I can see the “cockroach” in the ’toon…
agrestic about 10 years ago
Yup. Cuco Rocha is definitely an anthropomorphized cockroach. Always has been. Probably always will be.