What a difference a few weeks makes. Wasn’t that long ago that raising taxes to the very wealthy during a recession and engaging in “class envy” was bad. Now it’s cut the purchasing power of the middle class through reduction of benefits, and envy their collective bargaining rights and employee benefits.
every word in that cartoon is FALSE as explaining the arrogant and greedy union-power-keeping “protests”…
It is a FACT no matter which authority does the counting; public employees, including teachers, who are PAID BY TAXPAYERS, have been paid substantially higher salaries and perks than workers in the private sector.
2/19/11 Maclver Institute of Milwaukee, Wisconsin report “Average Teacher Compensation Tops $100,000/year” on Salary alone of $56,500/year.
That is 150% what the average compensation is in the private sector.
Gov.Walker is not “Taxing” teachers/unionists!
The taxpayers have been paying 100% of pension and health-care costs. Private sector employees pay hefty portions of their pensions and health-care premiums.
The state is over $3.6 Xillion in red ink and the Governor asks state-paid workers to put 5.8% of salary toward pension and 12.6% toward healh insurance. That is still less than the private workers pay.
It is not the “end” of negotiating wages…..but it will cramp the Bully Power of the Unions to intimidate public officials to agree to usual demands and ignore the Red Ink!
Interesting assumptions going on here. It’s apparently appropriate to cut taxes on the rich in a time of war, but not to pay teachers as the professionals they are supposed to be.
The average teacher salary in Wisconsin, according to the NEA, is $51,121, starting salary $31,714. (http://www.nea.org/home/3745.htm) By the way, a “fully loaded” compensation for any salaried job typically multiplies by 1.5 to 2 or more, so not really unusual.
Tell me where “150% of average compensation in the private sector” comes from. For what job? Anything comparable, or are you including hourly workers and high school dropouts with that?
Well, that’s just silly. The suits don’t protest themselves, they hire and bus in protesters to do it for them. That, and trick Tea Partiers into advocating against their own interests with propaganda.
If you look at the charts comparing the educational level of private sector workers vs public sector workers, you’ll see the public sector is also getting compensated for their knowledge.
The average teacher’s salary is under $45,000. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/AllK-12Teachers/Salary
Harol…as if no one in the private sector is “getting compensated for knowledge”? DUH.
I use numbers from www.jsonline.com of 2/16/11 and from www.maciverinstitute.com printed out 2/19/11
(that is a Milwaukee, Wisconsin news service)
with teacher income in 2011 numbers= “the average salary is $56,500 and when fringe benefits are factored in, the annual compensation will be $100,005 in 2011.”
and teachers do not pay anything as private workers (including PHDs, etc) pay into pensions and healthcare insurance.
your research must be using outdated and skewed numbers!
how do you get from 56.500 to 100,005? Health Care for full family runs around 15,000. Pension and other employer taxes maybe 10%. No way that gets to 100K
The John K. MacIver Institute for Public Policy is a Wisconsin-based think tank that promotes free markets, individual freedom, personal responsibility and limited government.
what makes you think their data is more accurate?
And that’s not a “news service.”
Carolo1 over 13 years ago
Very good
Bluejayz over 13 years ago
The Fat Cats have collective bargaining. It’s otherwise known as PACs and lobbyists.
Gypsy8 over 13 years ago
What a difference a few weeks makes. Wasn’t that long ago that raising taxes to the very wealthy during a recession and engaging in “class envy” was bad. Now it’s cut the purchasing power of the middle class through reduction of benefits, and envy their collective bargaining rights and employee benefits.
disgustedtaxpayer over 13 years ago
every word in that cartoon is FALSE as explaining the arrogant and greedy union-power-keeping “protests”…
It is a FACT no matter which authority does the counting; public employees, including teachers, who are PAID BY TAXPAYERS, have been paid substantially higher salaries and perks than workers in the private sector.
2/19/11 Maclver Institute of Milwaukee, Wisconsin report “Average Teacher Compensation Tops $100,000/year” on Salary alone of $56,500/year. That is 150% what the average compensation is in the private sector.
Gov.Walker is not “Taxing” teachers/unionists! The taxpayers have been paying 100% of pension and health-care costs. Private sector employees pay hefty portions of their pensions and health-care premiums. The state is over $3.6 Xillion in red ink and the Governor asks state-paid workers to put 5.8% of salary toward pension and 12.6% toward healh insurance. That is still less than the private workers pay.
It is not the “end” of negotiating wages…..but it will cramp the Bully Power of the Unions to intimidate public officials to agree to usual demands and ignore the Red Ink!
Motivemagus over 13 years ago
Interesting assumptions going on here. It’s apparently appropriate to cut taxes on the rich in a time of war, but not to pay teachers as the professionals they are supposed to be. The average teacher salary in Wisconsin, according to the NEA, is $51,121, starting salary $31,714. (http://www.nea.org/home/3745.htm) By the way, a “fully loaded” compensation for any salaried job typically multiplies by 1.5 to 2 or more, so not really unusual. Tell me where “150% of average compensation in the private sector” comes from. For what job? Anything comparable, or are you including hourly workers and high school dropouts with that?
myming over 13 years ago
easy - do NOT vote republican…
ianrey over 13 years ago
Well, that’s just silly. The suits don’t protest themselves, they hire and bus in protesters to do it for them. That, and trick Tea Partiers into advocating against their own interests with propaganda.
Harolynne Premium Member over 13 years ago
^disgusted
If you look at the charts comparing the educational level of private sector workers vs public sector workers, you’ll see the public sector is also getting compensated for their knowledge.
The average teacher’s salary is under $45,000. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/AllK-12Teachers/Salary
disgustedtaxpayer over 13 years ago
Harol…as if no one in the private sector is “getting compensated for knowledge”? DUH.
I use numbers from www.jsonline.com of 2/16/11 and from www.maciverinstitute.com printed out 2/19/11 (that is a Milwaukee, Wisconsin news service) with teacher income in 2011 numbers= “the average salary is $56,500 and when fringe benefits are factored in, the annual compensation will be $100,005 in 2011.”
and teachers do not pay anything as private workers (including PHDs, etc) pay into pensions and healthcare insurance.
your research must be using outdated and skewed numbers!
DC707 over 13 years ago
how do you get from 56.500 to 100,005? Health Care for full family runs around 15,000. Pension and other employer taxes maybe 10%. No way that gets to 100K
DC707 over 13 years ago
The John K. MacIver Institute for Public Policy is a Wisconsin-based think tank that promotes free markets, individual freedom, personal responsibility and limited government.
what makes you think their data is more accurate? And that’s not a “news service.”