Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for June 03, 2009
Transcript:
Lucy: ...So as a pre conceptual scientist, you reach a conclusion to a theory first, then just ignore all evidence that proves you're wrong? Danae: Yep. Lucy: So you believe you're always right? Danae: Well, since we don't hear anything to prove us wrong, logic dictates we must be right! Lucy: Yeah...but...just because you won't listen doesn't mean... Danae: La-la-la-la-la-la-la. Lucy: I give up... Danae: See how easy it is?
Leonardeuler over 15 years ago
After Witgenstein, there is Danae.
madKanga over 15 years ago
“People who think they are always right infuriate those of us who are.”
rayannina over 15 years ago
Richard Dawkins: The Early Years.
Dutchboy1 over 15 years ago
You got that right, Rayannina.
wndrwrthg over 15 years ago
Religion in a nutshell.
madKanga over 15 years ago
@rayannina & wndrwrthg : Which just goes to show there are irrational extremists on both sides of the argument.
Varnes over 15 years ago
Hey, who’s Dawkins? I was thinkin’ this was about the Intelligent Design religion. But, yes Mr. wndrwrthg, religions in general do the same thing.
Varnes over 15 years ago
Hey, madKanga, is that quote Mark Twain, Will Rogers, or George Carlin?
Jml58 over 15 years ago
My mind is already made up. Don´t confuse me with facts.
jelzap over 15 years ago
im right and theres nothing you cand to prove me wrong
wicky over 15 years ago
Spoken like a true Uber-lib.
Nairebis over 15 years ago
Well, Dawkins’ great “sin” is being outspoken against religion. That’s considered taboo in our culture where we’re supposed to show “respect” for people’s beliefs, no matter how outlandish they are, or how much extremists are trying to control others using them. If you criticize religion, then you must be close-minded. Dawkins’ is the ultimate in open-minded… he will consider any belief, provided there is evidence for it. Which pretty much rules out all the god(s).
mlkirk12530 over 15 years ago
I know some politicians that must be Pre-Conceptual
Nairebis over 15 years ago
@revtry – Assuming you’re not trolling or just demonstrating the point of the today’s comic, it takes a lot of work to ignore that mountain of evidence, doesn’t it? Especially considering you can actually observe it happening. Evolution is absolutely as true as the world is round. Denying evolution is intellectually the same as believing the Earth is flat.
JonD17 over 15 years ago
old quote from someone wise: Because you have silenced a man does not mean you have converted him.
carmy over 15 years ago
♫ La, La, La, La, La. La. La, ♫ I’m with you Danae!
IndianChris over 15 years ago
preconceptual science = global warming
wndrwrthg over 15 years ago
Man created god in his own image.
Kaero over 15 years ago
Hey, Wiley. Looks like you’re going to have to draw this storyline to a conclusion lest some of your clientele give themselves an aneurysm explaining how their point of view is right-right-right and if you a) dare to question what they believe or b) take umbrage at their questioning what you believe, you are an extremist nut-job. With the economy I’m sure you’d like to keep as much of your audience alive as possible…extremist nut-jobs or not.
dstufff over 15 years ago
C’mon everyone - lighten up on the religion / politics / science blather. Let’s just enjoy the comic as a comic and nothing more.
Nairebis over 15 years ago
I don’t expect people to suddenly accept reality based on postings on a comic strip. But I take heart at the fact that the Internet has allowed atheists to “come out of the closet” without the fear of social ostracization that we’ve had in the past. It’s not about waking up old people, who are probably too far gone, but it’s about making it acceptable for young people to think independently and know that they aren’t alone when they see that religion and all the different gods really seem absurd.
I predict it’ll probably take another 50 years for atheism to exceed the magic 50% level in the population. Mark my words, that will be the biggest thing that the Internet helps bring about. It’s much more difficult to remain in ignorance when communicating with so many different people, rather than the insulated communities of the past.
So while the ignorance such as what I see here is often disheartening, I know that there is a better day coming. Someday we’ll finally shake off the yoke of myths and legends.
TheInquisitor over 15 years ago
“There is a lot of anger in Dawkins arguments, and many easily recognizable logical fallacies”
Care to give an example of these logical fallacies rather than simply alluding to them?
Wildmustang1262 over 15 years ago
♫ Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo. Doo. Doooo… ♫
dasandman over 15 years ago
La La La La La There are no ridiculous evolution/creationsim/science/religion debates on these boards La La La La La
teeterman over 15 years ago
Adaptation is not Evolution and Science DOES support the bibles references to science.
Trebor39 over 15 years ago
Evolution is a reality and religious belief is not denied by it.
wicky over 15 years ago
I will bet Al Gore is la la la laing too.
reynard61 over 15 years ago
**Signal Lost**
lazygrazer over 15 years ago
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “La-La-La-La” and there was light.
madKanga over 15 years ago
I haven’t found any other comic on this site that attracts the consistent number of comments that Wiley does - agreed not all comments are sensible, but many do show some significant thought about the ideas behind the strip. Well done Wiley!
oCinneide over 15 years ago
madKanga, have you been over to “Pibgorn” any time recent? Lots of comments, many on topic, many entertaining ones off. Come on over and enjoy!
damarpi over 15 years ago
EMET of the Bee Beard, you have taught us – almost taught– a new word, or a word new to me: chiastic. It’s not in my dictionary, but I assume it’s related to the Greek khiazein, “to mark with a Khi (letter X),” i.e., “to cross,” and especially to the past participle of khiazein, khiastos, “crossed. ” How this relates in the context of the conversation, though, in the sentence “Chiastic structure wins again!” is puzzling. Could you please finish the process of enlightening us? I’m new at this site, and this is the first commentary I have followed; but the cartoon itself certainly invited all kinds of spin-off – and got it!
madKanga over 15 years ago
@oCinneide - Yes, I have seen Pibgorn, but usually I see it rather early in the day, so the only comment is fear-ciuil’s standard intro.
Whereas I tend to come back to non sequitur to read the comments before looking at the new day’s offering.
Pibgorn is really aimed at a different audience, I think - I suspect I must be a troll.
Superfrog over 15 years ago
All seems perfectly reasonable to me.
trigger_hippie over 15 years ago
so true
Claymore_5by5 over 13 years ago
This is the best description of Obama’s economic policy yet!!
Nice one!