For those who claim to believe that the Bible is the literal, factual, inerrant, infallible “word of god,” the Southern Baptists who expelled churches for allowing female ministers technically have it right. They are simply obeying what the Bible says. And for @Templo S.U.D. (above), the same applies to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (popularly known as the Mormons), which has the same prohibitions against women in the priesthood as also does the Catholic Church.
While Jesus reportedly (according to the Bible legends) lifted women up, the “apostle” Paul (more “apostate” than apostle), who contradicted Jesus on just about every point of law, doctrine, theology, morality or ethics, was the one who created an anti-woman fundamentalist version of Talibangelical “Christianity.”
Paul was very anti-woman. In addition to the verse from 1Corinthians 14:34-35 cited in the cartoon prohibiting women from speaking in the church and commanding their subservient obedience to their husbands, Paul demanded that they should stay home and take care of the kids (1Timothy 2:12; 5:14), and that wives should be submissive to the mastery of their husbands (Ephesians 5:22-24 and Colossians 3:18-19).
That isn’t me saying it; I don’t even agree with it. It isn’t even Jesus saying it. It is the apostate Paul. But for those who want to take the Bible literally (which is actually impossible given its many direct internal contradictions), yes, the literal Bible supports denying women leadership roles in churches.
The fact that a literal reading of the Bible, notably the letters of Paul, clearly does require a prohibition on women as ministers or even speaking in the church, is not a justification of the practices of subjugating women; it is a condemnation of interpreting the Bible literally or accepting it as being inerrant, infallible or literally factual.
Woman can not be Priests or any sort of Pastor or ordained clergy (minister etc). The Church Jesus Foudned (The Catholic Church) has the Priest standing in the Place of Jesus, a Man (and GOD!). Jesus chose only male priests (the Apostles) to carry on the earthly ministry while on Earth and after his Ascension. The protestant churches have already left the main teachings of Jesus by removing several books of the bible and offering thousands of different interpretations of the Bible.
The Church is not one of “the Book” (bible), but a church of “The WORD” of God. That is why tradition is so critical. There were many things taught to the apostles that were not recorded in the Bible (so says scripture itself). Thus the traditions they handed down have precedent and great authority. They are kept within the catholic Church.
Templo S.U.D. over 1 year ago
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints also doesn’t female clerics like that.
Davis D Danizier (3D) over 1 year ago
For those who claim to believe that the Bible is the literal, factual, inerrant, infallible “word of god,” the Southern Baptists who expelled churches for allowing female ministers technically have it right. They are simply obeying what the Bible says. And for @Templo S.U.D. (above), the same applies to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (popularly known as the Mormons), which has the same prohibitions against women in the priesthood as also does the Catholic Church.
While Jesus reportedly (according to the Bible legends) lifted women up, the “apostle” Paul (more “apostate” than apostle), who contradicted Jesus on just about every point of law, doctrine, theology, morality or ethics, was the one who created an anti-woman fundamentalist version of Talibangelical “Christianity.”
Paul was very anti-woman. In addition to the verse from 1Corinthians 14:34-35 cited in the cartoon prohibiting women from speaking in the church and commanding their subservient obedience to their husbands, Paul demanded that they should stay home and take care of the kids (1Timothy 2:12; 5:14), and that wives should be submissive to the mastery of their husbands (Ephesians 5:22-24 and Colossians 3:18-19).
That isn’t me saying it; I don’t even agree with it. It isn’t even Jesus saying it. It is the apostate Paul. But for those who want to take the Bible literally (which is actually impossible given its many direct internal contradictions), yes, the literal Bible supports denying women leadership roles in churches.
The fact that a literal reading of the Bible, notably the letters of Paul, clearly does require a prohibition on women as ministers or even speaking in the church, is not a justification of the practices of subjugating women; it is a condemnation of interpreting the Bible literally or accepting it as being inerrant, infallible or literally factual.
Free or Not? Premium Member over 1 year ago
Woman can not be Priests or any sort of Pastor or ordained clergy (minister etc). The Church Jesus Foudned (The Catholic Church) has the Priest standing in the Place of Jesus, a Man (and GOD!). Jesus chose only male priests (the Apostles) to carry on the earthly ministry while on Earth and after his Ascension. The protestant churches have already left the main teachings of Jesus by removing several books of the bible and offering thousands of different interpretations of the Bible.
The Church is not one of “the Book” (bible), but a church of “The WORD” of God. That is why tradition is so critical. There were many things taught to the apostles that were not recorded in the Bible (so says scripture itself). Thus the traditions they handed down have precedent and great authority. They are kept within the catholic Church.
Bee1950 over 1 year ago
Too often verses are removed from the context of the chapters in which they appear thus changing the intended message.
sedrelwesley2 Premium Member over 1 year ago
…any of you guilty of sewing two different types of fabric together?
Dewsolo over 1 year ago
I ran across this bit of video from the TV show ‘Designing Women’ that speaks to this issue.
https://www.facebook.com/1044614538/videos/183078818061562