Actually AARP betrayed us and I, like several thousand other seniors, sent back our AARP cards and resigned from the organization. The Public Option is financed on the backs of seniors who are losing their Medicare Advantage Program and half a trillion out of Medicare. We’re told that doctors charge too much for what they do for seniors. Wrong! I just came out of the hospital and the total bill was 13 thousand dollars for a two day stay. Medicare only paid a little over 3 thousand and I paid 400 for my deductable. All the rest the hospital and doctors had to eat. If the government pays any less, seniors will be refused service. It’s bleeep sure not the Republicans that are killing us - especially seniors.
When you find yourself with stage 2 cancer and it takes six months to be scheduled for an operation 12 months in the future just take time to remember that you said the Public Option was the answer to our health care problems. On the other hand, we can enact tort reform, let insurance companies really compete and do business across state lines and we can form insurance pools for the poor. That, and things like that, will bring down the cost of insurance and will provide for those who can’t afford to pay.
If you really want the government take care of you from the cradle to the grave, instead of taking responsibility for yourself, there’s a place you can go that does that. It’s called Russia. I doubt that you’d like it there.
So let the hospital eat it. 13 thou is obscene, it’s obviously a fake charge. How could it cost that much?
Another area that needs to have their fake and excessive charges shoved down their throats is insurance companies. But our elected representatives are too busy taking bribes from them to vote the way the vast majority of the American people want.
Only in America is profiteering seen as the answer to public health.
Just because somebody you don’t approve of says something first doesn’t necessarily make them wrong.
Take this comment from Saul Alinski for example, “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”
NO PROFITS - NO MEDRFCAL ADVANCES - NO SPELL CHECK - BAD BAD BAD
BTW - some medical advances come from government spending. From Student Loans & Grants (Medical Schools & Hospitals) to Funding R&D Projects and Test Trials - Tax $$ have made it possible for many advances in Health Care -
R U ready to get in line for your Flu Shot?
“U.S. to Spend $1 Billion on H1N1 Flu Vaccine Production”
For reasons previously stated, I too would like to dump AARP and have been scampering for a good alternative for auto and home insurance rates. Any ideas from any of you would be appreciated.
The same for AAA, for reasons they direct my payments to liberal organizations I disaprove of. And yes, I have that right!
EarlWash
• American Seniors Association (ASA) is a conservative alternative to AARP. By the way, ASA is offering any senior that sends in a torn AARP card a special deal that provides them with a two-year membership for the price of one year.
Please let me know if you find a conservative competitor to AAA.
Any way you figure it, insurance, ANY insurance, is socialism whether it’s run by the government or private for profit insurance companies. Because it socializes the risk to spread the risk among the populace so people can afford to buy the insurance. Everybody contributes a little to the insurance fund so that someone ( and it may be you ) who has a catastrophic loss isn’t economically devastated.
The advantage of having the government run the insurance system, EVERY insurance system, is that THEY WON’T throw “grandma and grandpa” to the wolves when there is too much chance that the insurance might just have to pay out something to “grandma and grandpa”, like the private for profit insurance companies do all the time.
If you think I’m kidding, just look at what it costs for PRIVATE health insurance for people over 65 who don’t have access to Medicare!
Taiwan has the best health care insurance system of anywhere in the entire world. It’s a government run SINGLE PAYER national health care system that works very well.
Go here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
Down at the bottom at the left click on “watch online”
From the menu that comes back, click on “4 Taiwan: A New System They Copied from Others”
Listen to it. It’s only eight minutes long. You’ll learn something.
“It has state of the art IT, gives equal access to all, free choice of doctors, NO WAITING, lots of competition among providers, and the government runs the financing for it.” The doctor gets paid instantly from the computer system that handles the whole thing off of a smart card that each person has, and there is NO PAPERWORK for the doctor to have to do!! AND it costs less than half of what WE spend on health ‘we don’t’ care!!
re mx you know the rest, while the United States systems of government does have a lot of problems and does stink, its best part is that it is way better than any form of government to be found on Earth. BTW, what would you replace it with?
jrbj, you don’t have to go to Russia, Canada offers the same horrid medicare, and the lifestyle isn’t too bad either. Canadian rich are still rich, Canadian poor aren’t as poor as American poor, and Canadians don’t die in the gutter because they can’t afford medical aid. Try it, you may like it!
Llewellenbruce about 15 years ago
Health insurance is getting to be about that bad.
Yukoner about 15 years ago
Maybe then, a public health care system is the answer.
EarlWash about 15 years ago
Life? Maybe too hard a life.
sjoujke about 15 years ago
Well, if he’s dead, he won’t need health insurance.
BigChiefDesoto about 15 years ago
Hey, that’s the republican plan! If you haven’t got Cheney’s money, don’t get sick!
GROG Premium Member about 15 years ago
Try AARP
jrbj about 15 years ago
Actually AARP betrayed us and I, like several thousand other seniors, sent back our AARP cards and resigned from the organization. The Public Option is financed on the backs of seniors who are losing their Medicare Advantage Program and half a trillion out of Medicare. We’re told that doctors charge too much for what they do for seniors. Wrong! I just came out of the hospital and the total bill was 13 thousand dollars for a two day stay. Medicare only paid a little over 3 thousand and I paid 400 for my deductable. All the rest the hospital and doctors had to eat. If the government pays any less, seniors will be refused service. It’s bleeep sure not the Republicans that are killing us - especially seniors. When you find yourself with stage 2 cancer and it takes six months to be scheduled for an operation 12 months in the future just take time to remember that you said the Public Option was the answer to our health care problems. On the other hand, we can enact tort reform, let insurance companies really compete and do business across state lines and we can form insurance pools for the poor. That, and things like that, will bring down the cost of insurance and will provide for those who can’t afford to pay. If you really want the government take care of you from the cradle to the grave, instead of taking responsibility for yourself, there’s a place you can go that does that. It’s called Russia. I doubt that you’d like it there.
Charles Brobst Premium Member about 15 years ago
So let the hospital eat it. 13 thou is obscene, it’s obviously a fake charge. How could it cost that much?
Another area that needs to have their fake and excessive charges shoved down their throats is insurance companies. But our elected representatives are too busy taking bribes from them to vote the way the vast majority of the American people want.
Only in America is profiteering seen as the answer to public health.
robynbart about 15 years ago
You can tell when the name callers are losing an argument.
CogentModality about 15 years ago
Devonshade
Just because somebody you don’t approve of says something first doesn’t necessarily make them wrong.
Take this comment from Saul Alinski for example, “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”
lewisbower about 15 years ago
Insurance companies-Profits- bad bad bad
Wages-profits- bad bad bad
Average workers IRAs- profits bad bad bad
Savings accounts- profits- bad bad bad
NO PROFITS- NO MEDRFCAL ADVANCES- GOOD GOOD GOOD
theR0nin about 15 years ago
“You can tell when the liberals are losing an argument.”
Fixed that for you.
GJ_Jehosaphat about 15 years ago
NO PROFITS - NO MEDRFCAL ADVANCES - NO SPELL CHECK - BAD BAD BAD
BTW - some medical advances come from government spending. From Student Loans & Grants (Medical Schools & Hospitals) to Funding R&D Projects and Test Trials - Tax $$ have made it possible for many advances in Health Care -
R U ready to get in line for your Flu Shot?
“U.S. to Spend $1 Billion on H1N1 Flu Vaccine Production”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203771904574181343250485958.html
EarlWash about 15 years ago
For reasons previously stated, I too would like to dump AARP and have been scampering for a good alternative for auto and home insurance rates. Any ideas from any of you would be appreciated.
The same for AAA, for reasons they direct my payments to liberal organizations I disaprove of. And yes, I have that right!
Nelly55 about 15 years ago
EarlWash, yes you do
As do I. And I have pulled my $$ out of every corp. I can that funds the Rightwing.
I’m tired of hearing “I’ve got mine, screw you” attitude toward my fellow human beings
WWJD?
Smiley Rmom about 15 years ago
EarlWash • American Seniors Association (ASA) is a conservative alternative to AARP. By the way, ASA is offering any senior that sends in a torn AARP card a special deal that provides them with a two-year membership for the price of one year.
Please let me know if you find a conservative competitor to AAA.
jimpow about 15 years ago
Earl Walsh: Try 21st Century (now a member of Farmers Group)
Ushindi about 15 years ago
What a truly AMAZING group of comments on a cartoon.
BigChiefDesoto about 15 years ago
Any way you figure it, insurance, ANY insurance, is socialism whether it’s run by the government or private for profit insurance companies. Because it socializes the risk to spread the risk among the populace so people can afford to buy the insurance. Everybody contributes a little to the insurance fund so that someone ( and it may be you ) who has a catastrophic loss isn’t economically devastated.
The advantage of having the government run the insurance system, EVERY insurance system, is that THEY WON’T throw “grandma and grandpa” to the wolves when there is too much chance that the insurance might just have to pay out something to “grandma and grandpa”, like the private for profit insurance companies do all the time.
If you think I’m kidding, just look at what it costs for PRIVATE health insurance for people over 65 who don’t have access to Medicare!
Taiwan has the best health care insurance system of anywhere in the entire world. It’s a government run SINGLE PAYER national health care system that works very well.
Go here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
Down at the bottom at the left click on “watch online”
From the menu that comes back, click on “4 Taiwan: A New System They Copied from Others”
Listen to it. It’s only eight minutes long. You’ll learn something.
“It has state of the art IT, gives equal access to all, free choice of doctors, NO WAITING, lots of competition among providers, and the government runs the financing for it.” The doctor gets paid instantly from the computer system that handles the whole thing off of a smart card that each person has, and there is NO PAPERWORK for the doctor to have to do!! AND it costs less than half of what WE spend on health ‘we don’t’ care!!
What’s there to not like about it?
It works.
NoBrandName about 15 years ago
Indeed. The farce is strong here today.
cpb124 about 15 years ago
re mx you know the rest, while the United States systems of government does have a lot of problems and does stink, its best part is that it is way better than any form of government to be found on Earth. BTW, what would you replace it with?
JP Steve Premium Member about 15 years ago
Okay, one more time.
jrbj, you don’t have to go to Russia, Canada offers the same horrid medicare, and the lifestyle isn’t too bad either. Canadian rich are still rich, Canadian poor aren’t as poor as American poor, and Canadians don’t die in the gutter because they can’t afford medical aid. Try it, you may like it!
EarlWash about 15 years ago
My sincere than you to those fed me back info on insurance outlets. It is greatly appreciated and will follow up these leads. Thanks again.