(For those who came in late, Judy (Wallet) Grubb is Skeezix’ and Corky’s sister.)
GA (May 16, 2004):
Corky: “Pops can’t stay by himself now that Mom is gone.”
Judy: “That’s right, Corky.”
Corky: “What are you going to do about it, Skeez?”
Skeezix: “You mean - what are WE going to do about it!”
Hey Corky, how about getting her side of the story? If you can shut up long enough that is! Can you at least let her finish a sentence instead of finishing it for her?
Sorry Gert, “looking for Mr. Walt” won’t cut it. The right thing for you to do was to gracefully leave the theatre with the old gent when your forged tickets were challenged. Everything that happened after that was your doing and grossly irresponsible. Even so, you coulda saved your bacon by using your cell to alert the family after you got turfed out without him. Or quietly explained things to that grumpy usher. But nooo… you had to sneak back in to look for …Walt? Haw… face it honey, you went in prowling for Bird backstage. Walt was the last person on your mind until after the show and after you visited Bird in his dressing room to see if you could line up a little celebrity nooky.
And that, friends, is “her side of the story.”
Hit the road, Gert
And dontcha come back no more no more
Hit the road, Gert
And dontcha come back no more.
Of course if she’d done what she was supposed to, this whole silly escapade wouldn’t have happened. It would have been about everyday folks being just folks the way GA used to be, not about a bunch of toons doing one corny skit after another, which is what GA has turned into.
It is so very easy that all onlookers, with otherwise cool heads, judge someone in emotional stress. Yes, we all know what SHOULD have happened, but would any of us in those exact situations have reacted differently?
I have worked for a couple of hot bull headed Corky punks in my life, but not for long. They weren’t worth my health. I
I’m going along with Gweedo, they need to hit him over the head with a rolling pin, better yet a cast iron pan. Corky is more irresponsible than Gertie, afterall, he is never at his business except this one time. Where has he been all this time?
ocean17: This is a comic strip. Fiction. Pulled directly from the imagination of a cartoonist. Why in the world would you assume motives other than the ones stated by the creator of this character and this story line?
That would be like saying Atticus Finch defended that guy because it’s the PC thing to do or Hamlet dueling with his uncle because he had an Oedipus complex.
Gertie being canned could be a blessing for her. Creative people are never, ever happy toiling in conventional or corporate environments. Then she can chase Byrd, live happily ever after and then hopefully we will see a bit more of the good Professor Wallet Senior while he is still with us.
Clearly we all read the strip and the comments, that’s why we’re here. If we disagree with someone’s point or perspective, isn’t it fine to say so? Saying “if you don’t like the comments, don’t read them” is a real conversation stopper (and sometimes an internal contradiction). That’s too bad, because there’s alot to talk about. I think “shouting” someone down is a poor debating technique, even if done in text.
Freedom of speech issues notwithstanding, isn’t this discussion partly about etiquette? Is saying “lighten up” tantamount to saying “shut up”? The first seems to me like advice (even if unsought) to take another perspective, the second more simply rude. I didn’t think Roohey was saying shut up. Is thanking someone for “stating the obvious” very much different from calling him a name? Is either really polite or productive? Both seem like ad hominem attacks rather than reasoned points. Neither furthers the discussion, neither informs.
I’ve done a fair bit of everything I criticize here, but I do feel better when I’m able to disagree without using angry words. And to make a point without angry words coming back.
*BASSMANB0B said, the real question here is Why is roohey allowed the freedom to express disagreement with my comment but I can’t express disagreement with his?
BB*
I think there was a whole lot of disagreement freely expressed by everyone involved, one after another, but that all of it could have been done with a higher level of decorum– given the obvious intelligence of the commentators! We could get deep into why the strip matters so much to us all if we choose our words with more care. Even Norman made some valid points, but they were too often overshadowed by name-calling, and sadly all he had to say has been erased because of that.
I’m sure Dypak will post later on tonight, Bob, as he usually does. By the way, I haven’t intended to speak for Roohey either, just to say how I read his comments. And, hey, nice talking with you!
I am guessing that Corky’s current “anger” is all an act and that Corky is setting Gertie up for Bird to make an unexpected appearance to make another marriage proposal. Everyone in the diner is “in” on what is coming next and the ONLY one who will be surprised when Bird “suddenly” appears will be Gertie! Corky is setting it all up so that Gertie will believe that she has an easy out when Bird pops the question again. Remember, the gang at the diner were Bird’s guests for the show. And Terri KNEW that Gertie was planning on doing a complete makeover in order to make it to the show. Which, at this point, seems kind of strange. Unless, of course, Terri just naturally presumed that Bird had sent complimentary tickets to Gertie and Walt and, therefore, never thought to mention to Gertie that the entire Diner gang would be going to the show because they had free tickets.
Bassman - Didnt mean to get you fired up. I thought your comment was pretty harsh for something as simple and inocuous as ‘lighten up’.
Roohey is like a complete newbie, he’s only been around since the beginning of October and has made like six comments. Unfortunetly he gets Bassman dumping all over him for one of them. I havent seen him around since. I wouldnt come back either if thats the way I was treated, first time out.
Think about how we sound sometimes. We’re either picking at the comic or picking at each other. GoComics is like a really bad playground sometimes. I used to try to keep up with things on SOTU but that bunch of whiners and crybabies is the worst.
Devonshade implies I’m some kind of policeman suck up. Not sure who he thinks I’m sucking up to. Certainly not Liam or anyone else lurking in the shadows out there. There’s quite a few other posters who I respect and I have to admit I care what they might think. But I’m not going to change what I think or what I say for any of that.
All I really want to do is enjoy the comics and have a few friends to share some laughs with. There are alot of great people around on here to do that with. A very few make it difficult. But that’s life. Sometimes it’s difficult for me to tolerate the bullies and punks who think they can speak any way they like to people and get away with it.
So to wind this up, Bassman, to be honest, yeah, what I thought what you said was out of line. Apparently it bothered you much more than I meant it to. So let me apologise. It’s not my job to police you or anyone else.
Well said, Dypak. This session has been like watching a bunch of old women with frying pans and rolling pins with the fur flying. Glad I didn’t get too close this time.
Of course you do. That’s because you think you are soo correct in your assesments of other’s that you think you have the divine right to judge others views. Feel free to stand wherever you like.
I’ve never claimed to be a saint. And looking back at this I don’t think my comments were directed to you. Until you jumped on board. As far as I’m concerned I didnt ‘start’ anything. You stuck your own nose in.
Devon, I really don’t want to play these games with you. It’s a major waste of time. Peace?
imrobert about 15 years ago
Oooo, noooo!
pbarnrob about 15 years ago
Sounds like it’s time to do just that, Gertie! Take ‘im up on it.
axe-grinder about 15 years ago
Drama in the diner!
OldManMountain about 15 years ago
Corky has always been the more emotional Wallet brother. Skeezix is the the level-headed one. He’ll fix things, or ask Nina to do it.
Wallcloud about 15 years ago
Is Corky giving Gertie the ” Bird ” ?
Ravenswing about 15 years ago
Go Corky!
OldManMountain about 15 years ago
(For those who came in late, Judy (Wallet) Grubb is Skeezix’ and Corky’s sister.)
GA (May 16, 2004): Corky: “Pops can’t stay by himself now that Mom is gone.” Judy: “That’s right, Corky.” Corky: “What are you going to do about it, Skeez?” Skeezix: “You mean - what are WE going to do about it!”
vasaaaa about 15 years ago
Has everyone forgotten about poor Rufus and kitty?
axe-grinder about 15 years ago
Alas, poor Rufus! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy…
Durak Premium Member about 15 years ago
About time for ole Walt to speak up, isnt it?
alondra about 15 years ago
Hey Corky, how about getting her side of the story? If you can shut up long enough that is! Can you at least let her finish a sentence instead of finishing it for her?
ocean17 about 15 years ago
Sorry Gert, “looking for Mr. Walt” won’t cut it. The right thing for you to do was to gracefully leave the theatre with the old gent when your forged tickets were challenged. Everything that happened after that was your doing and grossly irresponsible. Even so, you coulda saved your bacon by using your cell to alert the family after you got turfed out without him. Or quietly explained things to that grumpy usher. But nooo… you had to sneak back in to look for …Walt? Haw… face it honey, you went in prowling for Bird backstage. Walt was the last person on your mind until after the show and after you visited Bird in his dressing room to see if you could line up a little celebrity nooky.
And that, friends, is “her side of the story.”
Hit the road, Gert And dontcha come back no more no more Hit the road, Gert And dontcha come back no more.
Of course if she’d done what she was supposed to, this whole silly escapade wouldn’t have happened. It would have been about everyday folks being just folks the way GA used to be, not about a bunch of toons doing one corny skit after another, which is what GA has turned into.
EarlWash about 15 years ago
It is so very easy that all onlookers, with otherwise cool heads, judge someone in emotional stress. Yes, we all know what SHOULD have happened, but would any of us in those exact situations have reacted differently?
I have worked for a couple of hot bull headed Corky punks in my life, but not for long. They weren’t worth my health. I
“Let he who has never sinned…
ORteka about 15 years ago
I’m going along with Gweedo, they need to hit him over the head with a rolling pin, better yet a cast iron pan. Corky is more irresponsible than Gertie, afterall, he is never at his business except this one time. Where has he been all this time?
stringmusicianer about 15 years ago
Walt looks like he’s smiling. Maybe he thinks the whole thing is funny.
JanLC about 15 years ago
ocean17: This is a comic strip. Fiction. Pulled directly from the imagination of a cartoonist. Why in the world would you assume motives other than the ones stated by the creator of this character and this story line? That would be like saying Atticus Finch defended that guy because it’s the PC thing to do or Hamlet dueling with his uncle because he had an Oedipus complex.
axe-grinder about 15 years ago
stringmusicianer said, Walt looks like he’s smiling. Maybe he thinks the whole thing is funny.
Stringmuse, I clicked it up to judge Walt’s expression, and still can’t tell if he’s smiling– but I did just notice that his cup runneth over!
BlitzMcD about 15 years ago
Gertie being canned could be a blessing for her. Creative people are never, ever happy toiling in conventional or corporate environments. Then she can chase Byrd, live happily ever after and then hopefully we will see a bit more of the good Professor Wallet Senior while he is still with us.
stringmusicianer about 15 years ago
Haha, Axe, I didn’t see that until you pointed it out. Terry is distracted!
Bassman, it never ends does it? Some people are never wrong. I hate to see you wasting your energy.
axe-grinder about 15 years ago
Clearly we all read the strip and the comments, that’s why we’re here. If we disagree with someone’s point or perspective, isn’t it fine to say so? Saying “if you don’t like the comments, don’t read them” is a real conversation stopper (and sometimes an internal contradiction). That’s too bad, because there’s alot to talk about. I think “shouting” someone down is a poor debating technique, even if done in text.
Freedom of speech issues notwithstanding, isn’t this discussion partly about etiquette? Is saying “lighten up” tantamount to saying “shut up”? The first seems to me like advice (even if unsought) to take another perspective, the second more simply rude. I didn’t think Roohey was saying shut up. Is thanking someone for “stating the obvious” very much different from calling him a name? Is either really polite or productive? Both seem like ad hominem attacks rather than reasoned points. Neither furthers the discussion, neither informs.
I’ve done a fair bit of everything I criticize here, but I do feel better when I’m able to disagree without using angry words. And to make a point without angry words coming back.
436rge about 15 years ago
.Good! Finally this strip makes some sense
axe-grinder about 15 years ago
*BASSMANB0B said, the real question here is Why is roohey allowed the freedom to express disagreement with my comment but I can’t express disagreement with his? BB*
I think there was a whole lot of disagreement freely expressed by everyone involved, one after another, but that all of it could have been done with a higher level of decorum– given the obvious intelligence of the commentators! We could get deep into why the strip matters so much to us all if we choose our words with more care. Even Norman made some valid points, but they were too often overshadowed by name-calling, and sadly all he had to say has been erased because of that.
axe-grinder about 15 years ago
I’m sure Dypak will post later on tonight, Bob, as he usually does. By the way, I haven’t intended to speak for Roohey either, just to say how I read his comments. And, hey, nice talking with you!
DebJ4 about 15 years ago
I am guessing that Corky’s current “anger” is all an act and that Corky is setting Gertie up for Bird to make an unexpected appearance to make another marriage proposal. Everyone in the diner is “in” on what is coming next and the ONLY one who will be surprised when Bird “suddenly” appears will be Gertie! Corky is setting it all up so that Gertie will believe that she has an easy out when Bird pops the question again. Remember, the gang at the diner were Bird’s guests for the show. And Terri KNEW that Gertie was planning on doing a complete makeover in order to make it to the show. Which, at this point, seems kind of strange. Unless, of course, Terri just naturally presumed that Bird had sent complimentary tickets to Gertie and Walt and, therefore, never thought to mention to Gertie that the entire Diner gang would be going to the show because they had free tickets.
oldbooger about 15 years ago
Nighty-night.
Durak Premium Member about 15 years ago
Bassman - Didnt mean to get you fired up. I thought your comment was pretty harsh for something as simple and inocuous as ‘lighten up’.
Roohey is like a complete newbie, he’s only been around since the beginning of October and has made like six comments. Unfortunetly he gets Bassman dumping all over him for one of them. I havent seen him around since. I wouldnt come back either if thats the way I was treated, first time out.
Think about how we sound sometimes. We’re either picking at the comic or picking at each other. GoComics is like a really bad playground sometimes. I used to try to keep up with things on SOTU but that bunch of whiners and crybabies is the worst.
Devonshade implies I’m some kind of policeman suck up. Not sure who he thinks I’m sucking up to. Certainly not Liam or anyone else lurking in the shadows out there. There’s quite a few other posters who I respect and I have to admit I care what they might think. But I’m not going to change what I think or what I say for any of that.
All I really want to do is enjoy the comics and have a few friends to share some laughs with. There are alot of great people around on here to do that with. A very few make it difficult. But that’s life. Sometimes it’s difficult for me to tolerate the bullies and punks who think they can speak any way they like to people and get away with it.
So to wind this up, Bassman, to be honest, yeah, what I thought what you said was out of line. Apparently it bothered you much more than I meant it to. So let me apologise. It’s not my job to police you or anyone else.
stringmusicianer about 15 years ago
Deborah, I like your scenario. You are creative. I hope it works out somehow for Gertie and Byrd.
EarlWash about 15 years ago
Well said, Dypak. This session has been like watching a bunch of old women with frying pans and rolling pins with the fur flying. Glad I didn’t get too close this time.
Peace, not pieces.
Good nite, Mary Ellen. Good nite, John Boy.
alondra about 15 years ago
Deborah I sure hope you’re right. I like your scenario much better than what’s happening now with Corky reading Gertie the riot act.
Durak Premium Member about 15 years ago
Of course you do. That’s because you think you are soo correct in your assesments of other’s that you think you have the divine right to judge others views. Feel free to stand wherever you like.
Durak Premium Member about 15 years ago
I’ve never claimed to be a saint. And looking back at this I don’t think my comments were directed to you. Until you jumped on board. As far as I’m concerned I didnt ‘start’ anything. You stuck your own nose in.
Devon, I really don’t want to play these games with you. It’s a major waste of time. Peace?