Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for December 15, 2011
Transcript:
Mark: Well, that was appalling. Rick: Yup... especially to those of us who think that the election of our president is a serious matter. Is a more trivializing, demeaning spectacle than a debate "moderated" by a Donald Trump even conceivable? Voice: How about Sarah Palin as assistant moderator? Trump: Great idea! But I want the credit. You're fired! Why, yes!
BE THIS GUY about 13 years ago
Google Carolyn Kepcher. Trump doesn’t like to share the limelight.
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
• Monomegalomaniacopsychotic Trump apparently fired Carolyn Kepcher from her top position on his “The Apprintice” (Wikipedia): “Kepcher was replaced on The Apprentice by Ivanka Trump, beginning with Season 6.2” • Hey, all you conservatives out there, What about Trump? He’s a conservative too. Even a “birther”! See Wikipedia for this quote: “Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily, … was reportedly on the phone with Trump every day for a week, providing Trump with a “birther primer”, answers to questions, and advice.142 After Obama released his long form birth certificate on April 27, 2011 Trump said “I am really honored and I am really proud, that I was able to do something that nobody else could do”.143"
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
As far as we know, Trump has neither apologized nor admitted deception and wrongdoing for his “birther caper”. Meaning he still believes Obama was born outside the borders of the USA. What, then, can he possibly be “honored” and “proud” of for doing “something that nobody else could do”? Most logical conclusion: Forcing Obama to release a FORGED “long form” birth certificate! Sieg heil The Donald!
rockngolfer about 13 years ago
Treadeu hasn’t received the new news that the debate is off, but hopefully he can renew his hatred of trump, palin, cain,,,,,,,,,,,
AKHenderson Premium Member about 13 years ago
Has GT ever explained the deal with Trump’s hair? Trump has a comb-forward, not a comb-whirlwind. (And it’s a bit thinner than that.)
Yontrop about 13 years ago
“Trump backed out…” Maybe he got early information of this strip (see panel three) and did the right thing. Trudeau should be, really honored and really proud, that he was able to do something that nobody else could do.
riverhawk about 13 years ago
You know ,just realized I forgot all about Sarah.
pschearer Premium Member about 13 years ago
I got all the insight I need into Donald Trump’s character when he and his cronies fired Cyndi Lauper from Celebrity Apprentice for giving credit for a good idea to one of her teammates. Trump just couldn’t understand how anything so silly as mere truth and justice could keep someone from claiming credit for someone else’s idea.
Paladin39 about 13 years ago
I hereby release you from the requirement that you read Doonsbury every day. There now, don’t you feel better already?
Dtroutma about 13 years ago
A “dream debate” would be to let George Carlin come back to life and moderate.
lizmilner about 13 years ago
For the past two days, my local paper, the Worcester Telegram & Gazette, has been reprinting an old strip with Jeff and Zipper having lunch while tweeting rather than continuing the Trump debate storyline. I wonder why.
punslinger about 13 years ago
If the answer in 2012 is the GOP then the question must be AWFULLY weird!
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
Ever heard of evidence? You have no evidence for your serious charge of forgery by Obama:
“… those forgeries were sustained …”
(Hint: Your offered website address, by itself, doesn’t qualify, not as evidence.)
Stephen Gilberg about 13 years ago
Odd: The Washington Post is running a flashback today. Did they not receive this in time? Are they afraid of ticking off Donald Trump and/or his fans? Or do they think his hair is too ugly to show?
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
“This alone is enough “proof” for me. DanD” “Proof” enough for you is no proof at all. It’s not even evidence. In any court of jurisprudence in the country, it would be inadmissible. It wouldn’t be allowed, none of it. It’s a mix of hearsay and irrelevant opinion only. It has nothing whatsoever to do with supporting any serious charge of forgery against President of the United States Barack Obama.
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
One serious problem with politics in this once-great country, among many, is “conspiracy theories”. Few of them can even qualify as legitimate theories (in the scientific or “historical-critical” sense of the term). Too many voters swallow too much wild-eyed, hare-brained gossip and/or hearsay — such as 90% of that spouted by the Tea Party and their candidates in the GOP race. It gives a whole new meaning to the term, “Cry, the beloved country”.
basshwy about 13 years ago
Conspiracy theories are an indication of a poorly educated and gullible public as far as I am concerned. They should be comic relief but unfortunately there are too many people out there that believe everything they hear…Anybody want to buy a bridge?
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
Re the Constitutional requirement that the President must be born in this country. I’m sorry I don’t know enough about the historical reasons why the requirement was put in to answer your post adequately. Off the top of my head I have a few remarks: • It has nothing whatsoever to do with racism, since the land doesn’t know the race of the person born on it — American Indian, African American, Chinese American (remember that the earliest immigrant Chinese were treated almost as slave labor), Japanese American (were rounded up like cattle during WW II), etc. All of these races, and all others, are allowed to run and serve as President. • I once thought Arnie Schwarzenegger, who was NOT born on American soil, should be allowed to run for President. In the wake of his “boobengrabber” scandal, I no longer think so. • Illegal aliens, of whom there are millions in this country, should not be allowed to run and serve. So these are TODAY’S reasons. I’ll have to learn more about the ORIGINAL HISTORICAL reasons.
grandparent Premium Member about 13 years ago
You do not need to be born in the US to be president, You just need to be born with a US citizen as your parent. By the way, John McCain was born in Panama
arye uygur about 13 years ago
@DylanThomas3.14159 said, about 2 hours ago
“The Constitution was accepted on July 4, 1776. Two-hundred and thirty five years ago!”
I usually don’t comment on legalistic issues, but I think everyone knowws that it was the Declaration of Independence that was dated (not accepted) on July 4, 1776. After that there was a long war, then the Articles of Confederation and finally (I can’t remember the exact date) the U.S. Constitution was ratified in time to elect G. Washington as president in 1789.
I hope this is not too late for the regular posters to see; if so I hope tomorrow they will return to today’s posting to see this very important fact.
arye uygur about 13 years ago
PS McCain was born in the Canal Zone, which at the time, was a U.S. territory. Many pregnant American women living abroad have rushed back to the U.S. to give birth so that their offspring would be eligible to be presidential candidates, notwithstanding that their offspring were children of U.S. citizens.
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
“… the court in my head has decided that Obama has not been truthful.” And what was your purpose in posting on this website today, if not to convince people who read these comments? These folk aren’t stupid, you know.
BE THIS GUY about 13 years ago
You have revealed more about how your mind works (or doesn’t work) than about any mistruths that President Obama maybe guilty of.
BE THIS GUY about 13 years ago
1: First you reach a conclusion and then you twist and bend the facts to fit that conclusion.2: You are happier with lies that back up your personal beliefs than you are with truths that may make you unhappy.
BE THIS GUY about 13 years ago
The fact that you insist the birth certificate is fake is proof that you are either a liar or delusional. There has been no evidence presented that Barack Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.
DylanThomas3.14159 about 13 years ago
At this time of day few people post here. This post will last approximately 45 minutes before GoComix “flips” to the next strip and erases all comments. So, knowing that, let me say only this: I appreciate the quality of person who reads Trudeau and makes comments. It is rather unusual for a “chat room”. I never worry about ‘“defending” myself or my ego. If people want to attack me, then let them. I’ve learned that the more I “fight back” the more I invite attack and the less rational the ad hominem, personal attacks become. Thus, I just shut up and let people, including lurkers, think what they will. After all, they will anyway. Thus hail, voyager!
basshwy about 13 years ago
Based on what DTPI has just said, I am probably a bit late to pass comment, but it is my experience that when someone resorts to name calling it usually means that they are losing an argument and have nothing more constructive to add. Regardless of all the evidence and even it were possible to take everybody back in a time machine to the time and place of birth to prove conclusively that that he was born in Hawaii or wherever he was born, there would still be people who disbelieved the evidence for the sake of their own relatively petty political gains.
BE THIS GUY about 13 years ago
I have heard the claims that Barak Obama Sr. may not be the father but what purpose does that serve. Barak Jr. most closely resemble his white maternal grandfather (google photographs of Stanley Durham). There is no evidence to back up this claim. It is all hypotheses. Elvis is dead, Bush did not allow 9/11 to happen, and Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and student from Kenya was his daddy.