Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for December 22, 2016

Zonker, a traitor to his fellow First Class travelers.

Zonker in the breach

thatcher and reagan were the worst things to happen to our two countries. Great Britain got better but we had “dubya” and now we have darth dump and pope pence.

BTW, thatcher & reagan both had Alzheimer’s disease.

Looks like she’s going to “take a powder”. I bet Zonker tried a few “powders” in his time…

I recall a comment Maggie made about Ronnie: “He’s such a dear sweet boy, but he has absolutely nothing between his ears.”

I knew that the Reagan years were going to be bad.

I lost a $100 bet that he’d never be elected.

I was sitting in the U.S. Embassy in Costa Rica watching the results with some Embassy staff and a couple of expats. We were all incredulous at the outcome.

Except, of course, for a CIA officer who happily took my money.

The Iron Maiden was an entirely other story.

While I was no great fan of St. Ronnie, I really disliked Thatcher and what she did – not only to Great Britain but the rest of the U.K. – especially, the Northern Ireland..

Modern version: Putin flying in for Trump’s staff meetings.

Wait a minute… the House of Lords IS the “Bluebloods.”

And Thatcher was a vigorous defender of Agosto Pinochet, torturer and murderer of thousands, who died peacefully in his bed, never having been brought to justice for his horrible crimes.

leftwingpatriot said,

@DavidHuieGreen

“You’re going to have to defend Reagan again. I can’t do it because I’m not a big fan of his.I know you’ll do a good job.”

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Easy-peasey.

I loved that man — with a manly love, of course.

It’s “Elizabeth Tower” now. It was “Clock Tower” then. Only idiots call it “Big Ben”

I express no opinions regarding Mrs. Thatcher. I am neither a citizen nor a resident of the UK.

Reagan, however, is another matter. He was the start of the USA’s journey down the rabbit hole of conservative suicide. I never thought he could get nominated, let alone elected, a pattern that has continued to this day. Every time I think the electorate has reached bottom, we start digging. I never expected that the USA would be the cause of WW III, but now it appears that we may be exactly that. We will undoubtedly cause the next Great Depression, just as we caused the first one. All of this began with Ronnie. Only with the fullness of time can history judge the relative merits of historical figures, but you can expect RR and Dubya to be judged among the very worst and most destructive of US Presidents. Drumpf will be in a category by himself, just the way he likes it.

Big Ben has not been renamed. It’s the bell inside the tower, not the tower itself. Theoretically they could dive off Big Ben, but they’ll be hitting their heads on the carpentry.

The first time Reagon ran for the presidancy was during the Panama canal crisis, he lost a large share of his following when he declared that the canal was ours and we should go down at take it by force of arms. 4 years later when Reagon was running again I tried reminding them of what he’d said and everyone told me I was crazy, the said, “Ronald’s a man of peace, he’d he’d never say anything like that.” After Reasgon won the election those same people came back to me and said, “Now that I think of it, you were right, he did say those things about Panama 4 years ago.”

leftwingpatriot said,

@DavidHuieGreen

“You’re going to have to defend Reagan again. I can’t do it because I’m not a big fan of his.I know you’ll do a good job.”

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Been busy much of the day. So where were we? Oh yes, some people don’t love RWR as much as I for some unfathomable reason. Quite possibly because they are focusing on some minor flaws he exhibited during his lifetime.

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Acknowledge those:

He drove the national debt from about a trillion dollars to around four trillion dollars, not good with money.

He committed impeachable offenses in regard to Iran/Contra. He actually admitted them, then denied them, then said he didn’t remember. It is possible he lied, possible Alzheimer’s was kicking in.

He got some Marines killed in Lebanon by thinking their presence could stop the killing of innocents being cause related to the Syrian invasion and the Israeli counter-invasion — or however it went.

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So what could he have possibly done right?

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He stopped the world conquest of the Evil Empire in part by simply naming it what it was.

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He pointed out the failure of the Soviet system by calling The Berlin Wall a monument to its failure. People were willing to risk death to escape it.

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He showed the madness of Mutual Assured Destruction by joking about “bombing in five minutes.” Exposing your throat to your enemies only works if your enemies are sane. (That would be as insane as giving nuclear codes to DJT.)

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He accepted the responsibility of trying to protect the people of the USA rather than depend on the sanity of people who believed in the USSR.

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He believed in, trusted and loved America and made Americans believe in themselves. He didn’t assume the future was all doom and gloom.

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He didn’t try to micromanage the government as J

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He didn’t try to micromanage the government as JEC did, freezing it by being unable to do all things.

I loved that man.

Liverlips McCracken GoComics said,

@phlash

" Only idiots call it “Big Ben” "

“What’s your point?”

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Good point.

(good sense of humor shown)

We idiots gots as much right to be here as the sages.

The party is no difference any more. The 2 parties fight about non issues as far as the people that pay for the election campaigns are concerned. As long as the company owners get cheap labor and the workers pay the taxes, everything is fine. The white collar workers pay the taxes(making about 60% in adjusted dollars of what they would have in the 60s), the blue collar worker is being pushed out by the legal and illegal immigrants. Now that the white collor workers are getting squeezed by immigration, they vote for a candadate that claims he will do something – but will he?

She seems really impressed.

leftwingpatriot said,

@DavidHuieGreen

“Like I said, I knew you would do a good job.”

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I try.

(Some say I’m very trying.)