Joe - I was not referring to musical instruments, my reference is that the old line church of Christ that insist on being baptized in their church is the mechanism for salvation. Lately there has been a split and and a new group of Church of Christ folks no longer believe in baptismal regeneration.
On instruments - I have no issue either way - have had to take defend at one time or another both positions. for the side that says instruments are ok - all they do is look at David and the OT use of trumpets, drums and such and of course throw in David’s dancing and a good time was had by all ;-)
AS you and I are discovering, once you agree on orthodoxy, the rest of the stuff is in house debates and so if you don’t like music you find a church that does not do music, or if you want psalm singing you find a church that does that, and if you want a rock band you find a church that does that. But, when we do worship, it should always be in a manner prescribed by what we have been shown in the Bible and that brings honor and glory to God not to man or to attract people.
For those who read this stuff Joe and I write, realize both he and I have been in churches that sing without instruments - and I have been in some that don’t think you should make a joyful noise but only study. I would conclude noting the most powerful singing I have ever heard has been in a group of Scottish covenanters singing Psalms in Scotland - no instruments but the voice.
Joe - I was not referring to musical instruments, my reference is that the old line church of Christ that insist on being baptized in their church is the mechanism for salvation. Lately there has been a split and and a new group of Church of Christ folks no longer believe in baptismal regeneration.
On instruments - I have no issue either way - have had to take defend at one time or another both positions. for the side that says instruments are ok - all they do is look at David and the OT use of trumpets, drums and such and of course throw in David’s dancing and a good time was had by all ;-)
AS you and I are discovering, once you agree on orthodoxy, the rest of the stuff is in house debates and so if you don’t like music you find a church that does not do music, or if you want psalm singing you find a church that does that, and if you want a rock band you find a church that does that. But, when we do worship, it should always be in a manner prescribed by what we have been shown in the Bible and that brings honor and glory to God not to man or to attract people.
For those who read this stuff Joe and I write, realize both he and I have been in churches that sing without instruments - and I have been in some that don’t think you should make a joyful noise but only study. I would conclude noting the most powerful singing I have ever heard has been in a group of Scottish covenanters singing Psalms in Scotland - no instruments but the voice.