Toastmasters have an “Um-counter” during some of their meetings: someone who actually keeps track of when people say “um” or “you know” or the like when they speak. The time I took my daughter there (she loves public speaking and I thought I would show it to her to see if it would be something she might want to do when she was older) she rated the fewest amount of “ums”. She was 9. The Chairwoman invited her to join when she was 16 (but said that she could come be a guest any time she wanted to until then).
Toastmasters have an “Um-counter” during some of their meetings: someone who actually keeps track of when people say “um” or “you know” or the like when they speak. The time I took my daughter there (she loves public speaking and I thought I would show it to her to see if it would be something she might want to do when she was older) she rated the fewest amount of “ums”. She was 9. The Chairwoman invited her to join when she was 16 (but said that she could come be a guest any time she wanted to until then).