Goodness, Harleyquinn. Apparently the cartoon hit a sore spot. Too close to home, perhaps? That’s a whole lot of misdirection and red herring in your note.
Congress and the White House will not act, because a manufacturer of gas masks, which has made very generous contributions to their election campaigns, has ordered them to NOT enact any legislation to reduce emissions! (The masks are actually being manufactured in China, will only be sold by Wal-Mart, and the makers have their “headquarters” in Ireland, through inversion, to save on taxes)
pmaerz: Methane outgassing from formerly cold sea beds, a giant methane sinkhole in Siberia, Amazon rainforests being wiped out, at least 1/4 of all coral reefs dead, songbirds driven to extinction, glaciers disappearing, alien species running rampant not just in the U.S., but all over the world, numerous species of trees disappearing…. STOP THE GAYS!
The Tea-Party Republicans KNOW that Global Warming is not real, coz they have the most effective fact-checking system known to mankind.[]They stand on a hilltop, and…“Jeebus? If Global Warmin’ is NOT a durty Lib’rul hoax…turn this water into WINE!”
The problem with these “OMG the sky is falling” climate-change horror predictions is that nobody looks at the big pictures. Oceanographers just look at oceans, Geographers just look at earth. Weatherographers just look at their latest Super Doppler7000 and circle their arms around weather patterns. And so on.See, data is meaningless when it’s taken as an isolated point. See, for example, here’s a piece of data:2230Impressive, right? Now, if I just told you that number and said it was vitally important, what would happen? I’ll tell you what: an entire realm of science would pop into being dedicated to finding out what that number means, how it impacts our life. By the time the 2230ists were finished, the Theory of 2230 would relate to everything. Then other scientists would come along and say, no, you guys are wrong, the real Theory of 2230 is this. And so on, and so on, and so on. That’s what scientists do. They create meaning for things, then other scientists create another meaning, then they argue, then the government gives them grant money. And here’s the kicker: the truth is that 2230 is important, but each of them is just looking at it in isolation. Without understanding the big picture. They don’t know how all the parts fit together, or even what the parts are. And so they’re all wrong.Don’t get it? OK, let’s try it this way. Let’s pull back the lens a bit, take a look at the situation you’re describing. Water levels are rising. Oooh, scary. They’re rising faster than predicted. OOOOOOH, scarier. But what happens when you increase the total amount of water in a given surface? Hm? Volume, remember that? The water’s volume increases. OK, see that’s something that an oceanographer doesn’t consider, because it’s about math. So tell me: what happens when a water’s volume increases? That’s right, very good. The water becomes heavier. Because there’s more of it. Need proof? Here’s an experiment for you to conduct: Pick up a 5-gallon jug of water. Now pick up a 1-gallon jug. Which is heavier?
So what happens when the water’s weight increases? Well, now we’re into geography, another part of the big picture. The heavier water pushes down on the ocean’s floor. Now, in some places, that will actually make the ocean deeper — sort of like when the bottom of a plastic dish bows outward. In other places, though, the heavier water won’t be able to actually move the floor, but will put tremendous pressure on it. TREMENDOUS pressure. And what happens when you put tremendous pressure on the earth’s crust?
That’s right, volcanoes. See, now we’re into volcanology, which teaches us that magma, which is produced by volcanoes, is earth’s building material. The pressure produced by the rising sea will force volcanic eruptions of magma to the surface, which in effect will create new land. So, even as the oceans are rising, land is rising, too. This is how planets get bigger, (and — see? — we’re into astrology now). Do you think the Earth was always this same size? No! Thousands upon thousands of years ago it was much smaller. There was also a lot less water. Now we have lots of water, and lots of land. A few thousand years from now, there will be even more of both. It’s the natural way of things. It’s science. SCIENCE. But not science studied in isolation. Science as part of the greater whole.
The US armed forces, especially the Navy, are very concerned about rising seas, and are making detailed studies and contingency plans.
Don’t care about carbon emissions? Maybe you will when you find out how much it costs to move an entire Navy base before it goes underwater for the last time.
Strangely, what has not gone up in the last 17 years is the global temperature. Which is inconsistent with the models on which climate alarmists’ dire predictions are based.
The real problem is with the actions of our so called “leaders”. Politicians and celebrities for the climate change cause tell people that they need to make changes and adopt environmental habits often with a lower standard of living, but never make any changes to their liftstyles. Arianna Huffington said SUV driver are terrorist supporters, but our homes have much bigger carbon footprints than our vehicles. She as with many of these advocates, have private airplanes, which are much worse. But no, we can’t give those up, because then we would have to go through security and rub elbows with those dirty peasants. It would hurt their precious egos to make any changed themselves. That’s why so many people don’t believe it. It looks just like a host when the powerful and famous make a big fuss but tell others that they will will have to fix. If these people would lead by example it would so much more believable.
First, if this is the obvious cause why wasn’t it accounted for in climate forecast models? To offer this as a defense is to admit that the forecast models do not accurately account for the factors that drive global temperatures and should not be relied upon.-Second, global sea ice seems to be above historical average levels for this year:-http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2014/06/29/antarctic-sea-ice-area-anomaly-record-high/-We may not have infinite ice but we may not run out of it just the same.
none.of.the.above over 9 years ago
Goodness, Harleyquinn. Apparently the cartoon hit a sore spot. Too close to home, perhaps? That’s a whole lot of misdirection and red herring in your note.
pmaerz over 9 years ago
Oh crap – there are real crises to deal with – divert attention quickly.
Ahhhh… – Obama is saved by global warming again.
moosemin over 9 years ago
Congress and the White House will not act, because a manufacturer of gas masks, which has made very generous contributions to their election campaigns, has ordered them to NOT enact any legislation to reduce emissions! (The masks are actually being manufactured in China, will only be sold by Wal-Mart, and the makers have their “headquarters” in Ireland, through inversion, to save on taxes)
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member over 9 years ago
Ebola may solve the problem!
Cerabooge over 9 years ago
pmaerz: Methane outgassing from formerly cold sea beds, a giant methane sinkhole in Siberia, Amazon rainforests being wiped out, at least 1/4 of all coral reefs dead, songbirds driven to extinction, glaciers disappearing, alien species running rampant not just in the U.S., but all over the world, numerous species of trees disappearing…. STOP THE GAYS!
Simon_Jester over 9 years ago
The Tea-Party Republicans KNOW that Global Warming is not real, coz they have the most effective fact-checking system known to mankind.[]They stand on a hilltop, and…“Jeebus? If Global Warmin’ is NOT a durty Lib’rul hoax…turn this water into WINE!”
BaltoBill over 9 years ago
The problem with these “OMG the sky is falling” climate-change horror predictions is that nobody looks at the big pictures. Oceanographers just look at oceans, Geographers just look at earth. Weatherographers just look at their latest Super Doppler7000 and circle their arms around weather patterns. And so on.See, data is meaningless when it’s taken as an isolated point. See, for example, here’s a piece of data:2230Impressive, right? Now, if I just told you that number and said it was vitally important, what would happen? I’ll tell you what: an entire realm of science would pop into being dedicated to finding out what that number means, how it impacts our life. By the time the 2230ists were finished, the Theory of 2230 would relate to everything. Then other scientists would come along and say, no, you guys are wrong, the real Theory of 2230 is this. And so on, and so on, and so on. That’s what scientists do. They create meaning for things, then other scientists create another meaning, then they argue, then the government gives them grant money. And here’s the kicker: the truth is that 2230 is important, but each of them is just looking at it in isolation. Without understanding the big picture. They don’t know how all the parts fit together, or even what the parts are. And so they’re all wrong.Don’t get it? OK, let’s try it this way. Let’s pull back the lens a bit, take a look at the situation you’re describing. Water levels are rising. Oooh, scary. They’re rising faster than predicted. OOOOOOH, scarier. But what happens when you increase the total amount of water in a given surface? Hm? Volume, remember that? The water’s volume increases. OK, see that’s something that an oceanographer doesn’t consider, because it’s about math. So tell me: what happens when a water’s volume increases? That’s right, very good. The water becomes heavier. Because there’s more of it. Need proof? Here’s an experiment for you to conduct: Pick up a 5-gallon jug of water. Now pick up a 1-gallon jug. Which is heavier?
So what happens when the water’s weight increases? Well, now we’re into geography, another part of the big picture. The heavier water pushes down on the ocean’s floor. Now, in some places, that will actually make the ocean deeper — sort of like when the bottom of a plastic dish bows outward. In other places, though, the heavier water won’t be able to actually move the floor, but will put tremendous pressure on it. TREMENDOUS pressure. And what happens when you put tremendous pressure on the earth’s crust?
That’s right, volcanoes. See, now we’re into volcanology, which teaches us that magma, which is produced by volcanoes, is earth’s building material. The pressure produced by the rising sea will force volcanic eruptions of magma to the surface, which in effect will create new land. So, even as the oceans are rising, land is rising, too. This is how planets get bigger, (and — see? — we’re into astrology now). Do you think the Earth was always this same size? No! Thousands upon thousands of years ago it was much smaller. There was also a lot less water. Now we have lots of water, and lots of land. A few thousand years from now, there will be even more of both. It’s the natural way of things. It’s science. SCIENCE. But not science studied in isolation. Science as part of the greater whole.
oneoldhat over 9 years ago
we need to stop global warming and put Chicago back under 1/2 mile thick sheet of ice
I Play One On TV over 9 years ago
The US armed forces, especially the Navy, are very concerned about rising seas, and are making detailed studies and contingency plans.
Don’t care about carbon emissions? Maybe you will when you find out how much it costs to move an entire Navy base before it goes underwater for the last time.
TripleAxel over 9 years ago
Strangely, what has not gone up in the last 17 years is the global temperature. Which is inconsistent with the models on which climate alarmists’ dire predictions are based.
Cerabooge over 9 years ago
Harlequinn: HAHAHA. “real Data” – and you link to Breitbart.com. HAHAHA
Andrew85994 over 9 years ago
The real problem is with the actions of our so called “leaders”. Politicians and celebrities for the climate change cause tell people that they need to make changes and adopt environmental habits often with a lower standard of living, but never make any changes to their liftstyles. Arianna Huffington said SUV driver are terrorist supporters, but our homes have much bigger carbon footprints than our vehicles. She as with many of these advocates, have private airplanes, which are much worse. But no, we can’t give those up, because then we would have to go through security and rub elbows with those dirty peasants. It would hurt their precious egos to make any changed themselves. That’s why so many people don’t believe it. It looks just like a host when the powerful and famous make a big fuss but tell others that they will will have to fix. If these people would lead by example it would so much more believable.
TripleAxel over 9 years ago
First, if this is the obvious cause why wasn’t it accounted for in climate forecast models? To offer this as a defense is to admit that the forecast models do not accurately account for the factors that drive global temperatures and should not be relied upon.-Second, global sea ice seems to be above historical average levels for this year:-http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2014/06/29/antarctic-sea-ice-area-anomaly-record-high/-We may not have infinite ice but we may not run out of it just the same.