Who’s participating in these polls? Are the polls 100% accurate? If the High Council’s been overtaken, what’s not to say that they (or others) aren’t doctoring everything to make themselves look great?
There’s gotta be an ulterior motive lurking in that weasely head. This is more than a moral issue. I wonder if she’s got black market connections. It would make sense. If she’s dealing in ‘illegal bodily fluids’, to make a buck from taste-starved residents, it would make sense for her to not want certain food items made legal. It’s a stretch, but we have to examine all the angles. There’s more to this campaign than meets the eye.
Jacob’s a power-player of sortsAllgood’s fanatical too. That distortsAll that these two will do by degrees. WillDegrees now increase because of a weasel?A conflict of various layers plays outThe Council is fragmented inside by doubtAnd one more of power has still not weighed inDoes Mallard, in this game, not have any … feathers?=|====/ Level HeadVote for Endtown 2.0And for Doc Rat, tooThe Endtown ForumThe Endtown AuctionThe Endtown Books
Perfect creative action for this Viola. No doubt her fingers are in very profitable pie since she arrived. Got that “eye” about her, and that slimy motion, deep voiced and up close when she needs to push through another of her wills or ways. FLASK WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!Blessed Be
She strikes me as a weasel in the most pejorative sense. I like the suggestion that she has self-serving (likely criminal) motives and is playing everyone, Especially Allgood.
Is Allgood being misled by a more sinister source? Is he a person interested in forwarding his agenda by influence only and not by force? We may have misjudged him.He may be a person we may disagree with on issues but otherwise not consider a disgusting person like I have to admit thinking. As usual Aaron is presenting a deeper character than I thought.
I think you’re on to it. This character is clearly playing Allgood. Besides, anyone in heels and cigaret holder while most folks are dealing with beans every day, if they are lucky, cannot be a good person.
Velda is an opportunist and is playing Allgood lke a drum. With Flask gone there is a big empty space at the top of Security. We all know “nature abhors a vacuum” and vacuums suck up dirt. ;-)
I know what “Octavius” means—-usually it means the guy was somebody’s eighth kid. But “Octavius Allgood?” #I see that Velda is the one last seen monitoring Linda, Maude, and Holly in their cell. I still wonder about the Security Rat seen monitoring with her—-he looked somewhat uneasy about the matter.#Also, I wonder about how you could do a proper representative poll of the Endtown population, when the Endtown population is just seven thousand or so. How many are adults and children, what’s the man-to-woman ratio, how does it ethnically (and animally) break down? In a sense, they’re chance survivors who wound up in a lifeboat…I doubt any of that would have any real meaning to them…
The cake may be a lie, but it is still a sweet piece.Velda does not like cake.Not with her fingers so deep in the pie.But the cheese is a mirror of our soul.But have we fallen that far from humanity.And might that not be a good thing.After all look what the humans made of the world.And what of Mister Hopper.No one will be able to attend his service.If they are all jailed or shot.
Ah, something new has been added. I wonder if Octavius and Velda are a couple of really sophisticated con artist/ ideologues that have been gaming the HC for various reasons…but mostly for the power over the Endtowners’ lives?
Any (reputable) pollster will tell you that you can generate any set of results you want with a poll, depending on how you ask the questions. Lies, damn lies, and statistics…. ;-)
Well lost that bet but I do hold to the fact that Velda was evil.I agree with DADOF3 on Polls. It all depends on who you ask and how many. If you ask 10 folks and 8 agree it can be stated that 80% agree. That looks like BIG percentage but that is only 10 folks not 10,000. I learned that in Statistical Math. I chuckle now how everyone jumped on Allgood and now some feel he is being used. Even I am fault for that. And Velda blames the Rats for going overboard when they were following orders apparently screened by her (and maybe adjusted to her agenda).This does appear to go a lot deeper down the “rabbit hole”.The old story rears itself. Good man doing good things lead astray by the EVIL of woman.NOW HOLD ON before flaming me big time. I did not write the story. It only applies to this one part. (Neathery started it) (heheheh)
I wouldn’t let Allgood off too lightly. If you follow his words:“Headlines like these are not helpful”“Even if the mayor is lying, the council’s credability is shot”He doesn’t seem to be worried about the fate of Holly, Linda and Maude but about the fact that the rats’ rampage has given his cause a boatload of bad press. It may be that he believes that Walt is lying and that the trial could NEVER end with an execution. but I still wouldn’t trust him.
“For the greater good” seems to be the underlying theme all the way from the previous arc. A nice phrase, but we have to realize it may mean something different for many of us. Society evolves and in that evolution mistakes are made. Some of us may think the change isn’t worth making the mistakes and some of us think change isn’t happening fast enough no matter what mistakes are made. I’m trying to make my statement as neutral as possible. What does the phrase “For the greater good” mean to us? Is this the point of Aaron’s story?And maybe I’m trying to get to the point of the story too early.
I will say one thing.Velda is sexy. In evil sort of way. Another “vamp” if you will. Reminds me of Eisner’s work on the “Spirit”. Those were some sexy bad girls. (Hey you all thought it I just said it)hehe.
Now if they break into a rendition of “A Funny happened on the Way to the Forum” Ummmmmm.Just saying (OCTAVIUS……. did his parents hate him for some reason. I mean OCTAVIUS who names their kids like that. What were they thinking! No wonder he has issues what with a name like. Kids probably picked on him when he was little resulting in his subsequent issues with by products and preserving humanity) octavius???? When I say Velda I think of Velvetta cheese.
I just googled the name Velda and went in Wikipedia.A coined name of one of the Seven Daughters of Eve (book by Bryan Sykes) and the passing of the human mitochondrial genetics. It was a name give to one of the Seven “clan mothers” descendant from the original mitochondrial Eve. Interesting Mr. Neathery would pick this name. The Seven are traced to European ancestry by this genetic link. This is based in scientific fact of the mutation of the mitochondrial DNA back to a specific point. I have heard of this before as the Eve theory. Humans evolved from a single origination person and all can be traced back to the first one. Changes occurred only a few times in the mitochondrial DNA making it a very good link when studying genetics when comparing both modern to more pre-historic person.
Looking at these two together, I find myself thinking of the term “Baptists & Bootleggers”.During the prohibition, the banning of alcohol was supported by both parties, Baptists because they felt that the consumption of alcohol was sinful in itself and contributed to other moral iniquities. The bootleggers supported prohibition because banning alcohol made bootlegging more proffitable.As dangerous as it is to try to predict Aaron’s plot twists, that’s how these two come off to me. Allgood seens to be a moralist who believes that he’s working for the greater good. My concern about him is that he may feel that his end justifies the sacrifice of many individuals including having Holly, Linda and Maude put to death. Velda, does not come off as a moralist, beyond the whole feminine fatale act, she seems to be very well off by Endtown standards. That suggests that she has found a way to proffit from the society, with dealing in mutant products seeming to be the most likely way.One thing’s for sure. This is going to be interesting.
Lets go back a bit in the arc. Just to point out remember when we met Maude.Remember the card game.Was there not a Typhoid Mary playing cards with the dogs?Was he not also using a cigarette holder shorter but similar to Velda’s. (Men usually used shorter ones than females.)Maybe a tie in somewhere.I know the author loves connections.
I don’t trust him, and I trust her even less. I think she did order the rats, and there may be a bunch of poisoned rats very soon. Too bad, I would love to see the rats turn over a new leaf. Like in book 1 Al said “You know me, Sam” “well, yes. How are you Al?”
SapphireDragonStudios over 11 years ago
Who’s participating in these polls? Are the polls 100% accurate? If the High Council’s been overtaken, what’s not to say that they (or others) aren’t doctoring everything to make themselves look great?
MerriMagic over 11 years ago
There’s gotta be an ulterior motive lurking in that weasely head. This is more than a moral issue. I wonder if she’s got black market connections. It would make sense. If she’s dealing in ‘illegal bodily fluids’, to make a buck from taste-starved residents, it would make sense for her to not want certain food items made legal. It’s a stretch, but we have to examine all the angles. There’s more to this campaign than meets the eye.
Level_Head over 11 years ago
Jacob’s a power-player of sortsAllgood’s fanatical too. That distortsAll that these two will do by degrees. WillDegrees now increase because of a weasel?A conflict of various layers plays outThe Council is fragmented inside by doubtAnd one more of power has still not weighed inDoes Mallard, in this game, not have any … feathers?=|====/ Level HeadVote for Endtown 2.0And for Doc Rat, tooThe Endtown ForumThe Endtown AuctionThe Endtown Books
TheDOCTOR over 11 years ago
Why do I hear Natasha Fatales voice? :)and WHAT is she smoking ? these people can’t grow FOOD for gosh sakes.
dirtyoldlady1 over 11 years ago
Perfect creative action for this Viola. No doubt her fingers are in very profitable pie since she arrived. Got that “eye” about her, and that slimy motion, deep voiced and up close when she needs to push through another of her wills or ways. FLASK WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!Blessed Be
stevegallacci over 11 years ago
She strikes me as a weasel in the most pejorative sense. I like the suggestion that she has self-serving (likely criminal) motives and is playing everyone, Especially Allgood.
Robert Nowall Premium Member over 11 years ago
“Octavius?”
mr_sherman Premium Member over 11 years ago
Is Allgood being misled by a more sinister source? Is he a person interested in forwarding his agenda by influence only and not by force? We may have misjudged him.He may be a person we may disagree with on issues but otherwise not consider a disgusting person like I have to admit thinking. As usual Aaron is presenting a deeper character than I thought.
Ida No over 11 years ago
People are too quick to throw around insults. Allgood isn’t the evil, vicious idiot fascist. His intentions are pure.
stevegallacci over 11 years ago
I think you’re on to it. This character is clearly playing Allgood. Besides, anyone in heels and cigaret holder while most folks are dealing with beans every day, if they are lucky, cannot be a good person.
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
“CURD IS CURD! WHEY IS WHEY!WHAT MORE DO WE NEED TO SAY?”
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
“HONK IF YOU LOVE CHEESES!”
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
“LEAVE THOSE CURDS ALONE!”
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
“HAND CASEOUS TO A LEAN AND HUNGRY COOK!”
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
(I’m just writing out the placards now.)
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
“GRATE GOUDA FOR THE GREATER GOOD!”
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
“THE CIRCLE OF LIFE IS A WHEEL OF BRIE!”
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
“FREEDOM IS A PIECE OF CAKE!”
DADOF3 over 11 years ago
Velda is an opportunist and is playing Allgood lke a drum. With Flask gone there is a big empty space at the top of Security. We all know “nature abhors a vacuum” and vacuums suck up dirt. ;-)
Jenner Premium Member over 11 years ago
I think Allgood is struggling with the inner turmoil of his illicit, inter-species yearning.
Coyoty Premium Member over 11 years ago
She looks like she knows her way around a pole— er, poll. After all, she is a polecat.
Drmercurious over 11 years ago
dirtyoldlady1, never were truer words spoken.
BlackieFlask over 11 years ago
So now we see that at a black market for tobacco and Catnip is acceptable to Allgood it’s just the mutant byproducts.
Robert Nowall Premium Member over 11 years ago
I know what “Octavius” means—-usually it means the guy was somebody’s eighth kid. But “Octavius Allgood?” #I see that Velda is the one last seen monitoring Linda, Maude, and Holly in their cell. I still wonder about the Security Rat seen monitoring with her—-he looked somewhat uneasy about the matter.#Also, I wonder about how you could do a proper representative poll of the Endtown population, when the Endtown population is just seven thousand or so. How many are adults and children, what’s the man-to-woman ratio, how does it ethnically (and animally) break down? In a sense, they’re chance survivors who wound up in a lifeboat…I doubt any of that would have any real meaning to them…
BBWolf128 over 11 years ago
The cake may be a lie, but it is still a sweet piece.Velda does not like cake.Not with her fingers so deep in the pie.But the cheese is a mirror of our soul.But have we fallen that far from humanity.And might that not be a good thing.After all look what the humans made of the world.And what of Mister Hopper.No one will be able to attend his service.If they are all jailed or shot.
Strider Keninginne Premium Member over 11 years ago
Ah, something new has been added. I wonder if Octavius and Velda are a couple of really sophisticated con artist/ ideologues that have been gaming the HC for various reasons…but mostly for the power over the Endtowners’ lives?
Francis362003 over 11 years ago
In comes Mrs. Vader.
DADOF3 over 11 years ago
Any (reputable) pollster will tell you that you can generate any set of results you want with a poll, depending on how you ask the questions. Lies, damn lies, and statistics…. ;-)
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
Well lost that bet but I do hold to the fact that Velda was evil.I agree with DADOF3 on Polls. It all depends on who you ask and how many. If you ask 10 folks and 8 agree it can be stated that 80% agree. That looks like BIG percentage but that is only 10 folks not 10,000. I learned that in Statistical Math. I chuckle now how everyone jumped on Allgood and now some feel he is being used. Even I am fault for that. And Velda blames the Rats for going overboard when they were following orders apparently screened by her (and maybe adjusted to her agenda).This does appear to go a lot deeper down the “rabbit hole”.The old story rears itself. Good man doing good things lead astray by the EVIL of woman.NOW HOLD ON before flaming me big time. I did not write the story. It only applies to this one part. (Neathery started it) (heheheh)
Space_cat over 11 years ago
I wondered what happened to Sarah Palin, how appropriate, she became a weasel!
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
The person on the Council of course giving Walt and Al all that grief. ;-)
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
Remember the early Fearless Leader spoke through a speaker box. It was later he appeared in person.
The Life I Draw Upon over 11 years ago
Beginning to sound a bit Romanese, around the time of Augustus perchance.
ConstanzeN over 11 years ago
The polls she is talking about is a complete sham. Just like most polls that are taken…the numbers can be moved around and manipulated.
Darwinskeeper over 11 years ago
I wouldn’t let Allgood off too lightly. If you follow his words:“Headlines like these are not helpful”“Even if the mayor is lying, the council’s credability is shot”He doesn’t seem to be worried about the fate of Holly, Linda and Maude but about the fact that the rats’ rampage has given his cause a boatload of bad press. It may be that he believes that Walt is lying and that the trial could NEVER end with an execution. but I still wouldn’t trust him.
Dragoncat over 11 years ago
Does anyone else hear a saxophone?
Dragoncat over 11 years ago
Allgood isn’t feeling good…at all.
mr_sherman Premium Member over 11 years ago
“For the greater good” seems to be the underlying theme all the way from the previous arc. A nice phrase, but we have to realize it may mean something different for many of us. Society evolves and in that evolution mistakes are made. Some of us may think the change isn’t worth making the mistakes and some of us think change isn’t happening fast enough no matter what mistakes are made. I’m trying to make my statement as neutral as possible. What does the phrase “For the greater good” mean to us? Is this the point of Aaron’s story?And maybe I’m trying to get to the point of the story too early.
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
I will say one thing.Velda is sexy. In evil sort of way. Another “vamp” if you will. Reminds me of Eisner’s work on the “Spirit”. Those were some sexy bad girls. (Hey you all thought it I just said it)hehe.
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
Now if they break into a rendition of “A Funny happened on the Way to the Forum” Ummmmmm.Just saying (OCTAVIUS……. did his parents hate him for some reason. I mean OCTAVIUS who names their kids like that. What were they thinking! No wonder he has issues what with a name like. Kids probably picked on him when he was little resulting in his subsequent issues with by products and preserving humanity) octavius???? When I say Velda I think of Velvetta cheese.
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
I just googled the name Velda and went in Wikipedia.A coined name of one of the Seven Daughters of Eve (book by Bryan Sykes) and the passing of the human mitochondrial genetics. It was a name give to one of the Seven “clan mothers” descendant from the original mitochondrial Eve. Interesting Mr. Neathery would pick this name. The Seven are traced to European ancestry by this genetic link. This is based in scientific fact of the mutation of the mitochondrial DNA back to a specific point. I have heard of this before as the Eve theory. Humans evolved from a single origination person and all can be traced back to the first one. Changes occurred only a few times in the mitochondrial DNA making it a very good link when studying genetics when comparing both modern to more pre-historic person.
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
AND I STILL THINK OF VELVETTA CHEESE WHEN I READ HER NAME!
Darwinskeeper over 11 years ago
Looking at these two together, I find myself thinking of the term “Baptists & Bootleggers”.During the prohibition, the banning of alcohol was supported by both parties, Baptists because they felt that the consumption of alcohol was sinful in itself and contributed to other moral iniquities. The bootleggers supported prohibition because banning alcohol made bootlegging more proffitable.As dangerous as it is to try to predict Aaron’s plot twists, that’s how these two come off to me. Allgood seens to be a moralist who believes that he’s working for the greater good. My concern about him is that he may feel that his end justifies the sacrifice of many individuals including having Holly, Linda and Maude put to death. Velda, does not come off as a moralist, beyond the whole feminine fatale act, she seems to be very well off by Endtown standards. That suggests that she has found a way to proffit from the society, with dealing in mutant products seeming to be the most likely way.One thing’s for sure. This is going to be interesting.
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
The Endtown “Black Market” has been mentioned a few times. Like darwinskeeper said this may be what this is all about.
Vet Premium Member over 11 years ago
Lets go back a bit in the arc. Just to point out remember when we met Maude.Remember the card game.Was there not a Typhoid Mary playing cards with the dogs?Was he not also using a cigarette holder shorter but similar to Velda’s. (Men usually used shorter ones than females.)Maybe a tie in somewhere.I know the author loves connections.
MacLir over 11 years ago
Regular Mata Hairy …
pam Miner over 11 years ago
I don’t trust him, and I trust her even less. I think she did order the rats, and there may be a bunch of poisoned rats very soon. Too bad, I would love to see the rats turn over a new leaf. Like in book 1 Al said “You know me, Sam” “well, yes. How are you Al?”