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Boy: I want to be the guitarist for Iggy and the Stooges like my dad. Miss Plainwell: Your dad is Iggy Pop's guitarist? Boy: No. He wants to be.
I had Iggy’s dad for an English teacher. I remember him reminiscing about golfing with Alice Cooper. He kind of just dropped that in casually one day. Wish I had had the guts to ask him if it was true that his son was the inspiration for Bowie’s “Laughing Gnome.” But he wasn’t exactly the open, approachable type. He could have patented the perfect supercilious sneer.
I saw Iggy at the Palladium in NYC the late 70’s had Soupy Sales sons in his band. The Ramones where the opening act. $5 for a ticket couldn’t go wrong
@T_Lexi Lynne Truss’s book Eats, Shoots and Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation, is one of my all-time favorites. Hilarious! I’m just surprised there’s no hyphen between “Zero” and “Tolerance.” [And I still wish I could italicize here.]
Annie – Check out this site: Citizen Dog, June 26, 2008 – posting tips. To italicize, you type <i>your words</i> or _your words_ , and you get your words. The page I linked to will explain all this and much more.
@Meowlin “Strangely white blackboards” are really common these days; maybe even the norm. They’re all over the Denver Public Schools, anyway. I assume they’re dry-erase boards, using those pen thingies, as opposed to chalk.
@bigpuma Oops! I deleted my last post to you in order to edit it, but forgot to copy it first, so I guess it’s lost. I’ll see if I can replicate it, with my error corrected. But if you saw it long enough to digest it. let me know.
I’ll give it a whirl….The way I learned it is this: “like” is a preposition, so it takes an object – a noun or noun phrase. (“A dog like mine” or “It looks like rain.”) “As” is a conjunction, joining two clauses, so it’s followed by a verb. (“This above all – to thine own self be true, and it must follow, as night follows day, thou canst not then be false to any man.” [Shakespeare. ] “He arrived just as the cows were coming home.” “Do as I do, and not as I say.”)
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Miss Plainwell’s confusion stems from the fact that she heard “guitarist like my dad.” I read “stooges like my dad”!
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A “correct” rephrasing of the kid’s sentence might be “I want to be the guitarist for Iggy and the Stooges, as does my dad.” (Not gonna happen at Bryson Elementary, even by Caulfield!) Or, he might say, “Like my dad, I want to be the guitarist for Iggy and the Stooges.” (More likely, but still unlikely.) Or he could say, “I’m like my dad. I want to be …,etc.”) Both more likely and more touching.
The “like or as” question has been a source of controversy among grammarians for a long time. Makes ’em downright peevish!:))
Varnes over 11 years ago
simsonfan, yeah, and they had the decency to keep their shirts on….
Ned Snipes over 11 years ago
Lest not forget, the period. When I was young, my sister didn’t have hers, my parents went nuts. budda bing!
Rainfoot over 11 years ago
The Passenger is one of my all time favorite songs, Iggys version and all the covers of it.
Arianne over 11 years ago
He’s got a lust for life!
I had Iggy’s dad for an English teacher. I remember him reminiscing about golfing with Alice Cooper. He kind of just dropped that in casually one day. Wish I had had the guts to ask him if it was true that his son was the inspiration for Bowie’s “Laughing Gnome.” But he wasn’t exactly the open, approachable type. He could have patented the perfect supercilious sneer.
kingstonave over 11 years ago
He was a good English teacher if you know how to use “supercilious” in a sentence.
Jimmi440 over 11 years ago
Jeff showing his Michigan roots.Go Blue!!!
T_Lexi over 11 years ago
Excellent example, Fairportfan2! That one’s going on my favorites list as a subset under “Eats, shoots and leaves.”
Totalloser Premium Member over 11 years ago
I saw Iggy at the Palladium in NYC the late 70’s had Soupy Sales sons in his band. The Ramones where the opening act. $5 for a ticket couldn’t go wrong
annieb1012 over 11 years ago
@T_Lexi Lynne Truss’s book Eats, Shoots and Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation, is one of my all-time favorites. Hilarious! I’m just surprised there’s no hyphen between “Zero” and “Tolerance.” [And I still wish I could italicize here.]
annieb1012 over 11 years ago
Woops, there should be no comma after “Punctuation” in the above post.
Arianne over 11 years ago
Annie – Check out this site: Citizen Dog, June 26, 2008 – posting tips. To italicize, you type <i>your words</i> or _your words_ , and you get your words. The page I linked to will explain all this and much more.
Seed_drill over 11 years ago
His dad wants to be dead? (R.I.P. Ron)
Comic Minister Premium Member over 11 years ago
Great outfit Ms. Plainwell.
Potrzebie over 11 years ago
I want to be the Keyboardist for Oingo Boingo.
annieb1012 over 11 years ago
@Arianne Thank you!
annieb1012 over 11 years ago
@Meowlin “Strangely white blackboards” are really common these days; maybe even the norm. They’re all over the Denver Public Schools, anyway. I assume they’re dry-erase boards, using those pen thingies, as opposed to chalk.
annieb1012 over 11 years ago
@bigpuma Oops! I deleted my last post to you in order to edit it, but forgot to copy it first, so I guess it’s lost. I’ll see if I can replicate it, with my error corrected. But if you saw it long enough to digest it. let me know.
annieb1012 over 11 years ago
@bigpuma "refresher on ‘like’ and ’as ""
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I’ll give it a whirl….The way I learned it is this: “like” is a preposition, so it takes an object – a noun or noun phrase. (“A dog like mine” or “It looks like rain.”) “As” is a conjunction, joining two clauses, so it’s followed by a verb. (“This above all – to thine own self be true, and it must follow, as night follows day, thou canst not then be false to any man.” [Shakespeare. ] “He arrived just as the cows were coming home.” “Do as I do, and not as I say.”)
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Miss Plainwell’s confusion stems from the fact that she heard “guitarist like my dad.” I read “stooges like my dad”!
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A “correct” rephrasing of the kid’s sentence might be “I want to be the guitarist for Iggy and the Stooges, as does my dad.” (Not gonna happen at Bryson Elementary, even by Caulfield!) Or, he might say, “Like my dad, I want to be the guitarist for Iggy and the Stooges.” (More likely, but still unlikely.) Or he could say, “I’m like my dad. I want to be …,etc.”) Both more likely and more touching.
The “like or as” question has been a source of controversy among grammarians for a long time. Makes ’em downright peevish!:))