It shouldn’t have been a Catholic priest holding the door closed. From what I’ve read, the Catholics sort of believe in evolution in that they believe that god did the evolution.
It should have been one of those fundy idiots in Congress.
Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, (French: [ʒɔʁʒə ləmɛtʁ] ( listen); 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian Roman Catholic priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the French section of the Catholic University of Louvain.1 He was the first known academic to propose the theory of the expansion of the Universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble.23 He was also the first to derive what is now known as Hubble’s law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble’s article.4567 Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his ‘hypothesis of the primeval atom or the “Cosmic Egg”’.8Wiki
all this God stuff. why can’t people just accept we are evolved and keep their God stuff out of life. God is a fairy tale.
kind of like Republicanism and hatred of the other. need insecurity to be “okay” by putting down the other.
humans are the only creature that “has” a need to explain ttheir own existence. We live, we die, until there’s “proof”, live and enjoy life. that is why this is called the “present”. a gift.
Size of a pea: I know a lot of atheists and agnostics, and nod them that I know of of them think “there is nothing superior to me”. In fact, most of them spend a lot of time complaining that, while humans are supposedly ‘intelligent’ apes, their apeness is only too evident, as indicated by constant war, cruelty, greed/selfishness (there just aren’t enough bananas in this world, you know), despoliation of the planet and territoriality. If there were a god, one of them has said to me, I know he/she could do better….
Man didn’t evolve from apes. The great apes and man had a common ancestor and humans and apes diverged and evolved over time to develop the differences that you see now. That is how I understand it from the many Anthropologists that have explained it to me.
Dang! Knew we should have locked that door. Then we could have restarted the failed experiment and hoped to have seen the evolution of a human version that wasn’t so scared of dying that they threw their lives away. Oh, well. This foolishness will be ended one day. It’s inevitable. Mass coronal ejection, wayward asteroid, or whatever. Then the universe’s local nightmare can end.
My apologies. I was afraid this would happen when I drew that character represtenting religion. It’s not directed at the Catholic church, but religion in general. The visual I used is one that is most familiar in our Western culture, and not just by the Catholic church. And the operative here is “sentience”, not science.
About half a century or so ago, I got into a great deal of trouble with Mother Superior in our religion class when our parish priest came in to do his monthly tutorial. He was a family friend, she didn’t like me at all. I asked him two questions: 1) Who told the pope he was infallible (reasoning: if Satan could tempt Jesus in the desert, couldn’t he lie to the pope?) and 2) If there are 3 people in God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost), is God a schizophrenic?) The priest sighed and said there are some things one must accept without understanding them. Mother Superior told me I am going to Hell.
That being said, It is always a moderate source of bemusement to me that most religions, if not all, are based upon love and acceptance of one’s fellow man, and that mankind seems to expend a great deal of enthusiasm and energy killing one another off in the name of religion.
Listen to all you high and mighty commenters worshiping on the altar of Atheism. Noone has ever documented the creation of a new species, yet the math says there are three new ones on earth every day.
In Kurt Vonnegut’s book Gallapagos, he states that human’s brains evolved way too big and they ended up wrecking everything because they thought too much….I miss Kurt
Why is the person who thinks god is the person he sees in the mirror and that will matters, reason does not, dressed like a Catholic official?? A secularist dressed like that??
@ WileyWow, when you drew this strip did you think it would foster all these ….er…..discussions?Most of them were very thoughtful and I am amazed that almost none of them are contentious!. As a Catholic, I remember that St Thomas Aquinas was an agnostic. So “question everything” has history. And it is good for the brain!
I find it passingly strange that some view evolution as an acceptable path to creation for their god, while others insist it HAS to be, * poof! * it all appears in situ , no arguments.
Old religious joke: As St Peter walked with a new arrival down a long hall in Heaven, he explained the basic order of things…..the doors leading off this particular hallway were all clearly marked…one for Lutheran and so forth….as they continued down the long hallway , the new arrival pointed to a certain door which was only marked by a “Do Not Disturb” sign. He asked St. Peter what was religion was behind “THAT” door. Without missing a beat St. Peter said "That is where we keep the Jehovah’s Witnesses…please be quiet, they think they are the only ones here.
Science is the belief in what seems reasonable at the time.Religion is the belief in what somebody else saw as reasonable and was sufficiently convincing that others also saw it as reasonable without actually understanding it.Insanity is arguing without any intention of being reasonable.
I have yet to run into the cleric, especially a bishop, who thinks he’s all by himself. Aside from the rest of the diocesan staff around him, he knows there’s Another who is always at his side.
Allow me to modify aircraft-engineer’s response to “vocal” fundamentalists. It seems these vocal fundamentalists are in denial of science in any way it counters their religious belief no matter the evidence to the contrary.It is in my opinion that the quiet believers should be the most vocal in denouncing the fools in their midst as not being representative of their knowledge, opinion and belief. I feel the same should be done by all peaceful Muslims against the radicals and terrorists of their religion.
Typical Wiley, unable to grasp reality. By definition Christians of any denomination don’t believe that they did anything themselves. The very foundation of science is that nothing happened by chance, but that an intelligent designer who is rational created all things, hence why all things must have a rational basis for how they work. If Wiley had the ability to do research, he would find out that all the “early man” fossils are based on VERY few fragments, and a lot of imagination. Neanderthal has been argued to be a regular man with rickets disease, and cro-mag non man seems to have been more advanced than Homosapien… Which hardly supports evolution. Even the study of language disproves evolution, since ancient languages were exponentially more complex than modern languages. Well, some idiot is sure to argue with me on this, but since they probably haven’t done any research themselves, they will just regurgitate the gibberish that Dawkins spouts.
And we are losing our “wisdom” teeth — a result of a larger brain and less room for the jawbone. Some are born without them, others need them removed because there is insufficient room for them.
“There is nothing more misunderstood by the modern mind than the authority of the Church. Just as soon as one mentions the authority of the Vicar of Christ there are visions of slavery, intellectual servitude, mental chains, tyrannical obedience, and blind service on the part of those who, it is said, are forbidden to think for themselves. That is positively untrue. Why has the world been so reluctant to accept the authority of the Father’s house? Why has it so often identified the Catholic Church with intellectual slavery? The answer is, because the world has forgotten the meaning of liberty.” Archbishop Fulton Sheen (Communism and the Conscience of the West)
strictures over 10 years ago
It shouldn’t have been a Catholic priest holding the door closed. From what I’ve read, the Catholics sort of believe in evolution in that they believe that god did the evolution.
It should have been one of those fundy idiots in Congress.
Varnes over 10 years ago
Knock! Knock!
Sidneypop over 10 years ago
Believing in God isn’t so difficult. Understanding what God is is.
Richard Howland-Bolton Premium Member over 10 years ago
I’ve often thought that Linnæus was a bit of a sap for naming us ‘sapiens’, that’s the one thing that we hardly ever manage to be.
jack fairbanks over 10 years ago
So at least we won’t have to suffer the children to come unto you?
jbmlaw01 over 10 years ago
The Gospel of Eric Carmen?
dot-the-I over 10 years ago
Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, (French: [ʒɔʁʒə ləmɛtʁ] ( listen); 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian Roman Catholic priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the French section of the Catholic University of Louvain.1 He was the first known academic to propose the theory of the expansion of the Universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble.23 He was also the first to derive what is now known as Hubble’s law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble’s article.4567 Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his ‘hypothesis of the primeval atom or the “Cosmic Egg”’.8Wiki
kd1sq Premium Member over 10 years ago
Stuck me tht Mr, W was commenting more on our tendency to discount everything other than ourselves as being non-sentient.
The older I get the more I believe that we don’t have an exclusive lock on a lot of what we tend to think of as being purely human attributes….
coastie90 over 10 years ago
If man evolved from ape, why are there apes in the jungle?
metagalaxy1970 over 10 years ago
To Sizeofapea, and your response is the reason why there are atheists/agnostics/non-believers.
Eclectic-1 over 10 years ago
The guy obviously never owned a cat…………..
magicwalnut over 10 years ago
Well said, Sidneypop!
Beleck3 over 10 years ago
all this God stuff. why can’t people just accept we are evolved and keep their God stuff out of life. God is a fairy tale.
kind of like Republicanism and hatred of the other. need insecurity to be “okay” by putting down the other.
humans are the only creature that “has” a need to explain ttheir own existence. We live, we die, until there’s “proof”, live and enjoy life. that is why this is called the “present”. a gift.
magicwalnut over 10 years ago
Size of a pea: I know a lot of atheists and agnostics, and nod them that I know of of them think “there is nothing superior to me”. In fact, most of them spend a lot of time complaining that, while humans are supposedly ‘intelligent’ apes, their apeness is only too evident, as indicated by constant war, cruelty, greed/selfishness (there just aren’t enough bananas in this world, you know), despoliation of the planet and territoriality. If there were a god, one of them has said to me, I know he/she could do better….
johnnydoc5 over 10 years ago
Man didn’t evolve from apes. The great apes and man had a common ancestor and humans and apes diverged and evolved over time to develop the differences that you see now. That is how I understand it from the many Anthropologists that have explained it to me.
MeGoNow Premium Member over 10 years ago
Dang! Knew we should have locked that door. Then we could have restarted the failed experiment and hoped to have seen the evolution of a human version that wasn’t so scared of dying that they threw their lives away. Oh, well. This foolishness will be ended one day. It’s inevitable. Mass coronal ejection, wayward asteroid, or whatever. Then the universe’s local nightmare can end.
vwdualnomand over 10 years ago
religion ruins everything. it has destroyed lives, started wars, and discredited science(gravity, evolution, etc…)
Wiley creator over 10 years ago
My apologies. I was afraid this would happen when I drew that character represtenting religion. It’s not directed at the Catholic church, but religion in general. The visual I used is one that is most familiar in our Western culture, and not just by the Catholic church. And the operative here is “sentience”, not science.
dabugger over 10 years ago
What would some religionist know about science. The enthusiast of logic and thinking.
ladykat over 10 years ago
About half a century or so ago, I got into a great deal of trouble with Mother Superior in our religion class when our parish priest came in to do his monthly tutorial. He was a family friend, she didn’t like me at all. I asked him two questions: 1) Who told the pope he was infallible (reasoning: if Satan could tempt Jesus in the desert, couldn’t he lie to the pope?) and 2) If there are 3 people in God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost), is God a schizophrenic?) The priest sighed and said there are some things one must accept without understanding them. Mother Superior told me I am going to Hell.
That being said, It is always a moderate source of bemusement to me that most religions, if not all, are based upon love and acceptance of one’s fellow man, and that mankind seems to expend a great deal of enthusiasm and energy killing one another off in the name of religion.
‘Nuff said, I’ll go back to vegetating now.
emmasweeny over 10 years ago
Listen to all you high and mighty commenters worshiping on the altar of Atheism. Noone has ever documented the creation of a new species, yet the math says there are three new ones on earth every day.
Say What? Premium Member over 10 years ago
“I think, therefore I must comment before I think.”
elbeck over 10 years ago
Great. Now the word “sentience” will forever carry negative connotations.
Varnes over 10 years ago
In Kurt Vonnegut’s book Gallapagos, he states that human’s brains evolved way too big and they ended up wrecking everything because they thought too much….I miss Kurt
susan.e.a.c over 10 years ago
Why is the person who thinks god is the person he sees in the mirror and that will matters, reason does not, dressed like a Catholic official?? A secularist dressed like that??
susan.e.a.c over 10 years ago
So I’m guessing you don’t believe in the Big Bang, heliocentric solar system, botany….or other Catholic Church ideas?
Last Rose Of Summer Premium Member over 10 years ago
@ WileyWow, when you drew this strip did you think it would foster all these ….er…..discussions?Most of them were very thoughtful and I am amazed that almost none of them are contentious!. As a Catholic, I remember that St Thomas Aquinas was an agnostic. So “question everything” has history. And it is good for the brain!
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr over 10 years ago
I find it passingly strange that some view evolution as an acceptable path to creation for their god, while others insist it HAS to be, * poof! * it all appears in situ , no arguments.
Caddy57 over 10 years ago
Old religious joke: As St Peter walked with a new arrival down a long hall in Heaven, he explained the basic order of things…..the doors leading off this particular hallway were all clearly marked…one for Lutheran and so forth….as they continued down the long hallway , the new arrival pointed to a certain door which was only marked by a “Do Not Disturb” sign. He asked St. Peter what was religion was behind “THAT” door. Without missing a beat St. Peter said "That is where we keep the Jehovah’s Witnesses…please be quiet, they think they are the only ones here.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 10 years ago
‘Man created God in his own image.’ (self quotes because I’ve posted it a few times on other strips)
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 10 years ago
Science is the belief in what seems reasonable at the time.Religion is the belief in what somebody else saw as reasonable and was sufficiently convincing that others also saw it as reasonable without actually understanding it.Insanity is arguing without any intention of being reasonable.
micaelah over 10 years ago
Wiley has lost his creative muse. He has descended into making political statements as if his opinions are fact. He must be bored.
TonyHalibut over 10 years ago
I ponder, therefore I am confused. Mayhap ‘sapience’ might make sense in this cartoon?
carol shelton over 10 years ago
Wiley’s sarcasm is brilliant. Give me this day my daily non sequitur.
DanReynolds over 10 years ago
Wiley,
Could you please share with us what, if any, religion you profess?
Do tell.
K M over 10 years ago
I have yet to run into the cleric, especially a bishop, who thinks he’s all by himself. Aside from the rest of the diocesan staff around him, he knows there’s Another who is always at his side.
mr_sherman Premium Member over 10 years ago
Allow me to modify aircraft-engineer’s response to “vocal” fundamentalists. It seems these vocal fundamentalists are in denial of science in any way it counters their religious belief no matter the evidence to the contrary.It is in my opinion that the quiet believers should be the most vocal in denouncing the fools in their midst as not being representative of their knowledge, opinion and belief. I feel the same should be done by all peaceful Muslims against the radicals and terrorists of their religion.
redlandz over 10 years ago
Typical Wiley, unable to grasp reality. By definition Christians of any denomination don’t believe that they did anything themselves. The very foundation of science is that nothing happened by chance, but that an intelligent designer who is rational created all things, hence why all things must have a rational basis for how they work. If Wiley had the ability to do research, he would find out that all the “early man” fossils are based on VERY few fragments, and a lot of imagination. Neanderthal has been argued to be a regular man with rickets disease, and cro-mag non man seems to have been more advanced than Homosapien… Which hardly supports evolution. Even the study of language disproves evolution, since ancient languages were exponentially more complex than modern languages. Well, some idiot is sure to argue with me on this, but since they probably haven’t done any research themselves, they will just regurgitate the gibberish that Dawkins spouts.
rphbeta over 10 years ago
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who do not believe, no proof is possible.”
lindz.coop Premium Member over 10 years ago
And we are losing our “wisdom” teeth — a result of a larger brain and less room for the jawbone. Some are born without them, others need them removed because there is insufficient room for them.
DanReynolds over 10 years ago
@BrassOrchid Thnx but didn’t ask you. How about i Wiley. Pls answer the question
MOESCHMOE over 10 years ago
“There is nothing more misunderstood by the modern mind than the authority of the Church. Just as soon as one mentions the authority of the Vicar of Christ there are visions of slavery, intellectual servitude, mental chains, tyrannical obedience, and blind service on the part of those who, it is said, are forbidden to think for themselves. That is positively untrue. Why has the world been so reluctant to accept the authority of the Father’s house? Why has it so often identified the Catholic Church with intellectual slavery? The answer is, because the world has forgotten the meaning of liberty.” Archbishop Fulton Sheen (Communism and the Conscience of the West)
DanReynolds over 10 years ago
@MOESCHMOE
Amen.
MOESCHMOE over 10 years ago
Your pronouncement that Catholicism is a cult pretty much explains your noarrowmindedness in one sentence.