Man with brown balding hair: I always wondered how they could achieve peace and tranquility here for an eternity.
Podium reads: NO RELIGION BEYOND THIS POINT
" . . . AN eternity.".How many eternities are there? . . . one for each of the “infinite number of multiple universes"?In that case we could each have our own universe with our own religion and, by necessity, our own monarchy.
Having thought about this, I’ve decided it’s time to take a nap.
I read a book once where they postulated that the entire reason there is such a lot of war and death and unhappiness in the world is because somebody once decided it was a good idea for them to claim knowledge of what is good and what is bad and presumed the responsibility to enlighten others. It is generally considered a fairy story. There’s a lot more, but it’s all about the same as that first bit.
Sorry, but the only way people would get along in heaven is if there were no people. They don’t need politics or religion to argue about. They can argue about a comic strip, for example…
As scientific research becomes more sophisticated and we are able to peer deeper into such things as basic living cells, a growing number of researchers are being compelled to accept the inevitable conclusion that Life was designed.-Head-in-sand denial of a Designer and his phenomenal effort to advise us is beginning to appear more foolish than unsupported religious zeal.
Well, I don’t expect ever to face this situation, or to face any situation after I’m dead.But if it turns out that I’m wrong, and I actually find myself waiting to enter Heaven or Hell, maybe I’ll need it another word than “religion”.
Quantum theory posits that there really are multiple universes….Seriously, real science!…Well, where would those infinite universes be? Way far away? Or right next to us?……..infinity near? Maybe it’s like a rainbow…..Different colors, but no line between them, no separation…I think we’re some shade of blue…..
Interesting. The people verbally attacking religion are blaming religion for violence and mayhem.Sort of how they like to blame the weapon but not the person behind it.
There is a huge difference between faith/spirituality and religion. I believe in faith and spirituality; I have a hard time with the rigidity of religions.
I rarely comment because I hate to type. But this time I will go to the effort. Religion isn’t the problem. The problem comes from people using differences, albeit race, religion, sex, age, height, or even stars on the belly (thanks Dr. Seuss) to make themselves feel superior to others. The main idea behind most religions is to try to be a better person and not hurt others, but people use it to prove that their way is the right way, the only way. That is what is wrong.
Those who think that mankind would be all peaceful and loving as long as there is no religion and basic needs are provided for, have clearly never belonged to a parenting group or an HOA.
As St. Peter was waiting at the Gates, a man approached. St. Peter asked, “What religion are you?”“Baptist,” replied the man.Consulting his list, St. Peter said, “You’re in Room 12, but be quiet as you pass Room 8.”So the man passed through the Gates of Heaven.The next man came up, and when St. Peter asked his question the reply was “Pentecostal.”Looking at his list again, St. Peter said, “You’re in Room 18, but be quiet as you pass Room 8.”The next man approached and responded, “Jewish.”St. Peter said, “You’re in Room 27, but be quiet as you pass Room 8.”The man’s curiosity getting the best of him, he felt he had to ask, “Okay, I understand different religions getting different rooms, but why do we have to be quiet when passing Room 8?”St. Peter replied, “Well, Room 8 is where the Catholics are, and they think they’re the only ones here.”Note: I am not in any way religious. This is close to how I first heard the joke. Feel free to substitute the religions of your choice when you tell it.
That’d be cool. Great city with wonderful museums, music, the most public art of any city in the world, amazing architecture, culture, sports, universities, public transit system, and lots of sites where history was made, the best cheese-steaks and soft pretzels,and lots more. Nice size too easy to walk around, good scale. You could do a lot worse than spend eternity in my home town.
Did you ever notice that when religion is characterized as bad for everyone, (and rightly so) that the religious nutjobs get busy with their apologetics? Such as those here denying “organized religion”, but that we have to accept the universal truths of religious teachings? That within itself is an oxymoron.
Religions (organized) and politics (organized) are twin organizations created by Man to command power over all other members of Mankind with myth and/or propaganda. Oh, yes, there’s that other tool: fear.
Prefer the “secular Buddhhist” route of using loving kindness toward all others and well, all the Earth and rest of the universe. Compassion and conquest of self, rather than others, is indeed a hard philosophy for humanity.
Hmm each religion has their own idea of heaven. And usually in those heavens are people of the same beliefs. And if you don’t have a religion, well, after death there is nothing.
What is Real? those things that do not go away just because you stop believing in them..here is food for thought:what ever it is you choose to believe ask this:.“How well does it serve to further all life in the entire universe?”
my own experiences are what I believe in.My Dad came to me on his way out. I heard him clear as day. he called my name and said “HI” in the Happiest voice Ever! . I was in the shower, not some dream.. he scared me so I grabbed the shower curtain! it was at the time he died I heard him. .I have had more experiences with others since then, and not always just at the moment they leave the body. One friend of mine had been cremated and buried but she made her presence felt. I’m telling you this because it’s True.I don’t give a rat’ behind if anyone believes me. just in case there are some people who will believe me and because of the immense amount of strength it has given me I will share this most intimate experience in short form.I was in her bathroom after the funeral & burial.all of a sudden I felt not a physical hug but a hug = the Love you feel when someone hugs you. It was her,, I know that hug! but it was even greater = more love in that hug, it was as if she was thanking me for all the love I ever gave her in life.“thank you! now I know what you gave me. Thank You!” it was so stunning and unexpected. I looked at the mirror across the room. nothing. no visuals. It was myHeart that felt her. for what ever that is worth to who ever reads this let me say to you, for me it’s worth so much! it means you DO remain who you were! as hard as we work on our relationships with people, it’s Not a waste at all!.here is the message I took from itNo Love ever given is wasted. even if they didn’t appreciate it = no love ever given is wasted so dont be stingy with yours ;)
StCleve72 said: “The major difference between these two book sets is that readers of Harry Potter understand that the stories are fiction, fantasy, while readers of the Bibles seem not to. Fantasy is a pervasive element of humanity, but isn’t it important for grown human beings to be able to distinguish between fantasy and reality?”Well done. We agree. The entire bible are made up stories about magic. Dense people don’t understand.
Religion is just scaffolding. The religion of anyone who would kill someone else because they use scaffolding different from theirs is in actuality an idol worshiper – idolitry is the number 1 religeon in the world with most of its’ followers unaware they are members. When one builds what the scaffolding was erected for, the scaffolding is removed, not worshipped !!
^sueamarlucan: 38,000 Christian sects indicate not only self-righteousness and intolerance toward others, but even within their own “faith”. Bible religions all teach intolerance. As expressed often by the Dali Lama, Buddhism teaches tolerance of all religions, but it doesn’t mean you have to agree with all their views. It is odd that so many “atheists” deny religion, are often the most vocally intolerant. “Secular humanists” by and large don’t go for organized religions, but are more tolerant than those “atheists” or religionists.
Right! Authoritarian systems all. In state religions to question belief is treason, in invisible man religions it’s heresy. Free thinking strictly prohibited with punishment either in the gulag or hell.
What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of “humility.” This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism. (Albert Einstein)
Makes sense. To be a Christian does not mean to be religious but to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ who died for my sins. The great thing about Heaven: I don’t have to look out for number one any longer.
“And how could you a mere human, understand the mental aspects of a deity anyway?”-In the same manner and to the same extent that a goldfish understands infinite space and multiple dimensions.
you might want to read Imponderable Forces by C.C. Zain published by www.light.orgI would not want to be singled out. I know of others who have had near-death experiences, I’m not the only one around here who is open..real quick, here’s a funny one My neighbor died and we took her cat.I had to leave, Charles was in charge.He wasn’t supposed to let the cat out ….I had a dream the neighbor locked me out of my house! I told Charles, Mrs Jones locked me out in the back yard!.Then he confessed. he’d let her cat out and it got tore up so bad he had to take it to the Vet $400!
in the books that are a part of the set from the link above they say how you can see in a birth chart the ability to hear from the spirit world. mine is a “feel good” aspect so most always the messages I get are not scary.
Flash Gordon over 8 years ago
Excellent idea. religion/superstition is the single worst thingthat has ever happened to the human species.
Varnes over 8 years ago
Can I get an AMEN?
Varnes over 8 years ago
I don’t have my glasses on…What does that sign say? There’s no point behind religion? Hmm…Sounds about right…
i_am_the_jam over 8 years ago
That sounds just about right :D :D :D
Enter.Name.Here over 8 years ago
How ironic, since the whole ideo of Heaven and St. Peter waiting there at the gates to let you in is a religious concept, is it not?
nosirrom over 8 years ago
I bet there’s NO POLITICS either!
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
Is this reason why one of the first lessons you learn in flying, is never fly into a cloud??
unnormal over 8 years ago
" . . . AN eternity.".How many eternities are there? . . . one for each of the “infinite number of multiple universes"?In that case we could each have our own universe with our own religion and, by necessity, our own monarchy.
Having thought about this, I’ve decided it’s time to take a nap.
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 8 years ago
I read a book once where they postulated that the entire reason there is such a lot of war and death and unhappiness in the world is because somebody once decided it was a good idea for them to claim knowledge of what is good and what is bad and presumed the responsibility to enlighten others. It is generally considered a fairy story. There’s a lot more, but it’s all about the same as that first bit.
Space_cat over 8 years ago
No religion? Sounds like “Heaven” to me!
Defective Premium Member over 8 years ago
Sorry, but the only way people would get along in heaven is if there were no people. They don’t need politics or religion to argue about. They can argue about a comic strip, for example…
unnormal over 8 years ago
As scientific research becomes more sophisticated and we are able to peer deeper into such things as basic living cells, a growing number of researchers are being compelled to accept the inevitable conclusion that Life was designed.-Head-in-sand denial of a Designer and his phenomenal effort to advise us is beginning to appear more foolish than unsupported religious zeal.
LilyGilder over 8 years ago
St. Pete’s sign should be posted at the entrance to all government buildings.
Alabama Al over 8 years ago
Who’s at the podium? The Christian/Catholic Saint Peter, right? So, for the vast majority of religious people things have already got off wrong.
Kaputnik over 8 years ago
Well, I don’t expect ever to face this situation, or to face any situation after I’m dead.But if it turns out that I’m wrong, and I actually find myself waiting to enter Heaven or Hell, maybe I’ll need it another word than “religion”.
Dr_Zinj over 8 years ago
What about us weirdoes who grew up in New York, and now live outside of Boston, and like both teams?
Varnes over 8 years ago
Quantum theory posits that there really are multiple universes….Seriously, real science!…Well, where would those infinite universes be? Way far away? Or right next to us?……..infinity near? Maybe it’s like a rainbow…..Different colors, but no line between them, no separation…I think we’re some shade of blue…..
sandpiper over 8 years ago
If the subject had not been religion – or politics – would there have been this much conversation?
mr_sherman Premium Member over 8 years ago
I’m waiting for exoticdoc2 to spout off her garbage.
whiteheron over 8 years ago
Interesting. The people verbally attacking religion are blaming religion for violence and mayhem.Sort of how they like to blame the weapon but not the person behind it.
aedra6 over 8 years ago
There is a huge difference between faith/spirituality and religion. I believe in faith and spirituality; I have a hard time with the rigidity of religions.
1953Baby over 8 years ago
HALLELUJAH!
@pixelcat: agree completely. . .
alliegator over 8 years ago
I rarely comment because I hate to type. But this time I will go to the effort. Religion isn’t the problem. The problem comes from people using differences, albeit race, religion, sex, age, height, or even stars on the belly (thanks Dr. Seuss) to make themselves feel superior to others. The main idea behind most religions is to try to be a better person and not hurt others, but people use it to prove that their way is the right way, the only way. That is what is wrong.
CarolFeldman over 8 years ago
It’s always a wonderful Monday when Danae week is finally over and I get to look forward to the good week of Non Sequitur.
morningglory73 Premium Member over 8 years ago
Love this comic big time!
GreatWal over 8 years ago
Those who think that mankind would be all peaceful and loving as long as there is no religion and basic needs are provided for, have clearly never belonged to a parenting group or an HOA.
dabugger over 8 years ago
That is downright profound. Could almost believe in that. A hopeful wish and dream. Real peace and tranquility.
Elisabunny over 8 years ago
Because there has been so much peace and tranquility in the Soviet Union, and communist China, and North Korea, and…
griffon8 over 8 years ago
As St. Peter was waiting at the Gates, a man approached. St. Peter asked, “What religion are you?”“Baptist,” replied the man.Consulting his list, St. Peter said, “You’re in Room 12, but be quiet as you pass Room 8.”So the man passed through the Gates of Heaven.The next man came up, and when St. Peter asked his question the reply was “Pentecostal.”Looking at his list again, St. Peter said, “You’re in Room 18, but be quiet as you pass Room 8.”The next man approached and responded, “Jewish.”St. Peter said, “You’re in Room 27, but be quiet as you pass Room 8.”The man’s curiosity getting the best of him, he felt he had to ask, “Okay, I understand different religions getting different rooms, but why do we have to be quiet when passing Room 8?”St. Peter replied, “Well, Room 8 is where the Catholics are, and they think they’re the only ones here.”Note: I am not in any way religious. This is close to how I first heard the joke. Feel free to substitute the religions of your choice when you tell it.
Eric S over 8 years ago
What a STUPID strip Wiley did… of course there’s no religion in Heaven, for God paid the price and it is finished, not by our work, but His.
wdpowell over 8 years ago
and no sex drive.
dflak over 8 years ago
To paraphrase Will Rogers: I’m not a member of any organized religion; I’m Episcopalian.
wdpowell over 8 years ago
and no greed or envy.
wdpowell over 8 years ago
and no sickness,
StCleve72 over 8 years ago
That’d be cool. Great city with wonderful museums, music, the most public art of any city in the world, amazing architecture, culture, sports, universities, public transit system, and lots of sites where history was made, the best cheese-steaks and soft pretzels,and lots more. Nice size too easy to walk around, good scale. You could do a lot worse than spend eternity in my home town.
Old Texan75 over 8 years ago
Did you ever notice that when religion is characterized as bad for everyone, (and rightly so) that the religious nutjobs get busy with their apologetics? Such as those here denying “organized religion”, but that we have to accept the universal truths of religious teachings? That within itself is an oxymoron.
Old Texan75 over 8 years ago
The few scientists who believe in a Grand Design are either still brainwashed or associated with the Sir John Templeton Foundation.
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
Religions (organized) and politics (organized) are twin organizations created by Man to command power over all other members of Mankind with myth and/or propaganda. Oh, yes, there’s that other tool: fear.
Prefer the “secular Buddhhist” route of using loving kindness toward all others and well, all the Earth and rest of the universe. Compassion and conquest of self, rather than others, is indeed a hard philosophy for humanity.
pcolli over 8 years ago
The “afterlife” is where think we go until we learn what the universe is really all about.
evilstepqueen over 8 years ago
Hmm each religion has their own idea of heaven. And usually in those heavens are people of the same beliefs. And if you don’t have a religion, well, after death there is nothing.
annette143NotMe over 8 years ago
What is Real? those things that do not go away just because you stop believing in them..here is food for thought:what ever it is you choose to believe ask this:.“How well does it serve to further all life in the entire universe?”
jacquie2022 over 8 years ago
Should add politics to the sign
annette143NotMe over 8 years ago
my own experiences are what I believe in.My Dad came to me on his way out. I heard him clear as day. he called my name and said “HI” in the Happiest voice Ever! . I was in the shower, not some dream.. he scared me so I grabbed the shower curtain! it was at the time he died I heard him. .I have had more experiences with others since then, and not always just at the moment they leave the body. One friend of mine had been cremated and buried but she made her presence felt. I’m telling you this because it’s True.I don’t give a rat’ behind if anyone believes me. just in case there are some people who will believe me and because of the immense amount of strength it has given me I will share this most intimate experience in short form.I was in her bathroom after the funeral & burial.all of a sudden I felt not a physical hug but a hug = the Love you feel when someone hugs you. It was her,, I know that hug! but it was even greater = more love in that hug, it was as if she was thanking me for all the love I ever gave her in life.“thank you! now I know what you gave me. Thank You!” it was so stunning and unexpected. I looked at the mirror across the room. nothing. no visuals. It was myHeart that felt her. for what ever that is worth to who ever reads this let me say to you, for me it’s worth so much! it means you DO remain who you were! as hard as we work on our relationships with people, it’s Not a waste at all!.here is the message I took from itNo Love ever given is wasted. even if they didn’t appreciate it = no love ever given is wasted so dont be stingy with yours ;)
BobCu over 8 years ago
Even Mr. God thinks religions are ridiculous.
BobCu over 8 years ago
StCleve72 said: “The major difference between these two book sets is that readers of Harry Potter understand that the stories are fiction, fantasy, while readers of the Bibles seem not to. Fantasy is a pervasive element of humanity, but isn’t it important for grown human beings to be able to distinguish between fantasy and reality?”Well done. We agree. The entire bible are made up stories about magic. Dense people don’t understand.
BobCu over 8 years ago
There is of course no magical paradise for dead human apes. Heaven is a just a fantasy for cowards.
Godfreydaniel over 8 years ago
Mark Twain’s “Extract From Captain Stormfield’s Visit to Heaven” should be required reading for all believers, non-believers, and the in-betweeners.
Eclectic-1 over 8 years ago
Religion is just scaffolding. The religion of anyone who would kill someone else because they use scaffolding different from theirs is in actuality an idol worshiper – idolitry is the number 1 religeon in the world with most of its’ followers unaware they are members. When one builds what the scaffolding was erected for, the scaffolding is removed, not worshipped !!
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
^sueamarlucan: 38,000 Christian sects indicate not only self-righteousness and intolerance toward others, but even within their own “faith”. Bible religions all teach intolerance. As expressed often by the Dali Lama, Buddhism teaches tolerance of all religions, but it doesn’t mean you have to agree with all their views. It is odd that so many “atheists” deny religion, are often the most vocally intolerant. “Secular humanists” by and large don’t go for organized religions, but are more tolerant than those “atheists” or religionists.
StCleve72 over 8 years ago
Right! Authoritarian systems all. In state religions to question belief is treason, in invisible man religions it’s heresy. Free thinking strictly prohibited with punishment either in the gulag or hell.
StCleve72 over 8 years ago
What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of “humility.” This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism. (Albert Einstein)
lindz.coop Premium Member over 8 years ago
Now that would be heaven.
Mr.doom over 8 years ago
Is is also one of the primary things that holds societies together.
hbrockhaus over 8 years ago
Makes sense. To be a Christian does not mean to be religious but to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ who died for my sins. The great thing about Heaven: I don’t have to look out for number one any longer.
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 8 years ago
“And how could you a mere human, understand the mental aspects of a deity anyway?”-In the same manner and to the same extent that a goldfish understands infinite space and multiple dimensions.
annette143NotMe over 8 years ago
you might want to read Imponderable Forces by C.C. Zain published by www.light.orgI would not want to be singled out. I know of others who have had near-death experiences, I’m not the only one around here who is open..real quick, here’s a funny one My neighbor died and we took her cat.I had to leave, Charles was in charge.He wasn’t supposed to let the cat out ….I had a dream the neighbor locked me out of my house! I told Charles, Mrs Jones locked me out in the back yard!.Then he confessed. he’d let her cat out and it got tore up so bad he had to take it to the Vet $400!
in the books that are a part of the set from the link above they say how you can see in a birth chart the ability to hear from the spirit world. mine is a “feel good” aspect so most always the messages I get are not scary.