Really? Wiley should rename this strip as “what’s wrong with this picture”
First, when the serpent [the Bible doesn’t specifically say it was a snake] ‘spoke’, it was to the woman Eve only. Adam was not present.
Secondly, there was no “religion” of any sort at that point, so there was nothing to have a “religious debate” about.
And of course, the third thing is the cavemen wouldn’t even know what a religion was since none existed, so they would have no frame of reference to be concerned over getting involved in a debate.
And before the science debate gets started, yes…true students of the Bible realize that serpents have no vocal chords. Obviously it was someone else who was making the serpent appear to talk to the woman.
Blah, blah, blah !!! RE: What’s WRONG with this picture???
The “First Bite” is not yet missing from an Apple; therefore, there could not yet be any on-lookers . . . sooo, the question really is: What are they doing just sitting there ??? . . . Contemplating ?? . . . What ? . . . You Know !!! . . .
Freewaydog, the pizza and the kegs must have run out….So I think you’re right! Eventually he ran into Eve, and the first thing he knows, she starts talking about how he should eat better, “Here, try this apple it’s good for you. That pizza will just make you fat…”…………..You know what? I wonder if anybody has ever put little slices of apple on a pizza? They put pineapple on ‘em, don’t they?..Seriously, I bet a little bit of apple on a pizza would be great! I wonder what kind of apple goes with pepperoni, ham and onions?
We had a religious speaker once at my dorm at college. He admitted that Cain “married” his sister, but because they were the first humans, their DNA was more elastic. Keep jumping through those hoops.
@Varnes: I like your interpretation best. . .wonder if the apple was a Granny Smith or a Jonathan?I bet Wiley does these cartoons as much to get a laugh himself at the posts, as well as give us a laugh. . .
:DThe funny thing was, it’s all about metaphors. The debate was to seek knowledge or remain ignorant. Just wish I’d bought a t-shirt with the January 1, 2011 cartoon on it when I had the chance way back when. That’s still my favorite, because it catches the true spirit of religion plain and simple.
Randy_BTo be even more precise, an etiological myth, a way of explaining the origin of things in an easy to remember story rather than a pile of hard to remember data. .LiteralistsIt wasn’t written in modern English, but spent a few centuries being polished in oral tradition before being written (in a couple versions) in a language most of you can’t read, then translated in a succession of languages to what we have now. .“Serpent” not only included all reptiles, but dragons as well. (Pythons have vestigial hind legs.) We are only now in the process of shedding the grammatical masculine to include females. Even the same language is constantly changing; translations between languages is even harder.
This one is the reverse of a letter to the editor of our local paper extolling the writer’s views on how all the paleological findings could be woven into the Bible so that we could keep that 6,000 year old creation intact. I wasn’t sure if it was written tongue-in-cheek or not but it sounds something like my daughter’s mother-in-law’s views. Our grandson is crazy for dinosaurs and he can tell you more than you ever knew about the subject. That grandmother is sorely tried with all that science thrown at her. ;)
It is obvious that many of the critics of scripture here have based their conclusions on many of the misconceptions which are so prevalent, even among theists. Here are just two:
As I previously stated, mankind was created on the 6th day, which means that when Adam was created there were already plenty of other people(s) around. This explains the many races, and the breeding stock issue. Adam was just the first in the seedline that would produce the messiah.
Let’s go back to square one. The story of creation isn’t about the origins of the Earth, it is about the beginning of an “Age”, which began about six thousand years ago.
Look, I don’t give a hang whether you believe in God, or not. But cherry picking bad translations and bad interpretations to criticize is childish, and makes for a weak argument. You just demonstrate that you are willing to demean and denigrate something that you haven’t even taken the time to try to understand.
I think the Messiah came from the house of David – which could be from Adam or not – as for the literal interpitation, I am sure that the Messiah came from 2 of the 5 that were on Noah’s ark.
Flash Gordon about 8 years ago
Where did adam and eve’s kids find spouses?
Dtroutma about 8 years ago
The serpent is deciding which one to eat, based on which tells the best story, and that’s a relgious debate??
debra4life1958 about 8 years ago
Wiley’s bend on creationism vs evolution.
AZPhinFan about 8 years ago
Really? Wiley should rename this strip as “what’s wrong with this picture”
First, when the serpent [the Bible doesn’t specifically say it was a snake] ‘spoke’, it was to the woman Eve only. Adam was not present.
Secondly, there was no “religion” of any sort at that point, so there was nothing to have a “religious debate” about.
And of course, the third thing is the cavemen wouldn’t even know what a religion was since none existed, so they would have no frame of reference to be concerned over getting involved in a debate.
And before the science debate gets started, yes…true students of the Bible realize that serpents have no vocal chords. Obviously it was someone else who was making the serpent appear to talk to the woman.
somebodyshort about 8 years ago
Adam, Eve and a snake. The first threesome. It didn’t work then and it still doesn’t.
TejanoViejo about 8 years ago
Blah, blah, blah !!! RE: What’s WRONG with this picture???
The “First Bite” is not yet missing from an Apple; therefore, there could not yet be any on-lookers . . . sooo, the question really is: What are they doing just sitting there ??? . . . Contemplating ?? . . . What ? . . . You Know !!! . . .
sarazan7 about 8 years ago
C’MON GUYS! IT’S JUST A COMIC! I’m surprised someone didn’t find a way to drag Hillary and Trump into this “debate”!
freewaydog about 8 years ago
Oh this must be when Adam finally meets Eve after hanging w/ the dudes!
Varnes about 8 years ago
Freewaydog, the pizza and the kegs must have run out….So I think you’re right! Eventually he ran into Eve, and the first thing he knows, she starts talking about how he should eat better, “Here, try this apple it’s good for you. That pizza will just make you fat…”…………..You know what? I wonder if anybody has ever put little slices of apple on a pizza? They put pineapple on ‘em, don’t they?..Seriously, I bet a little bit of apple on a pizza would be great! I wonder what kind of apple goes with pepperoni, ham and onions?
Great Wizard Nala about 8 years ago
If you believe the bible, Noah is the ancestor of all of us!!
Great Wizard Nala about 8 years ago
The Life span has gotten a H… of a lot shorter hasn’t it?!
Chrisstopher about 8 years ago
Must be the people from the land of Nod.
dl11898 about 8 years ago
Wiley Miller, you have done it again, … opened a religious discussion that will elicit comments galore, some factual, others pure fiction. Congrats.
Ermine Notyours about 8 years ago
We had a religious speaker once at my dorm at college. He admitted that Cain “married” his sister, but because they were the first humans, their DNA was more elastic. Keep jumping through those hoops.
magicwalnut about 8 years ago
As a student of historical linguistics, I’ve often wondered what language the serpent spoke…
1953Baby about 8 years ago
@Varnes: I like your interpretation best. . .wonder if the apple was a Granny Smith or a Jonathan?I bet Wiley does these cartoons as much to get a laugh himself at the posts, as well as give us a laugh. . .
Habogee about 8 years ago
Oh. I get it. We are all descended from incestual relationships. Explains a lot. Dueling banjos anyone.
Honorable Mention In The Banjo Toss Premium Member about 8 years ago
Eve said to Adam, “Get away from that tree, You’ll pick the fruit, And they’ll blame it on me.”
GiantShetlandPony about 8 years ago
:DThe funny thing was, it’s all about metaphors. The debate was to seek knowledge or remain ignorant. Just wish I’d bought a t-shirt with the January 1, 2011 cartoon on it when I had the chance way back when. That’s still my favorite, because it catches the true spirit of religion plain and simple.
JoeMartinFan Premium Member about 8 years ago
You loathe religion and ridicule belief. We get it. It’s not even clever; it’s just heavy-handed and tedious.
Time to give it a rest, Miller.
veranna about 8 years ago
GUYS-IT’S A COMIC!get over yourselves….
hippogriff about 8 years ago
Randy_BTo be even more precise, an etiological myth, a way of explaining the origin of things in an easy to remember story rather than a pile of hard to remember data. .LiteralistsIt wasn’t written in modern English, but spent a few centuries being polished in oral tradition before being written (in a couple versions) in a language most of you can’t read, then translated in a succession of languages to what we have now. .“Serpent” not only included all reptiles, but dragons as well. (Pythons have vestigial hind legs.) We are only now in the process of shedding the grammatical masculine to include females. Even the same language is constantly changing; translations between languages is even harder.
wiatr about 8 years ago
This one is the reverse of a letter to the editor of our local paper extolling the writer’s views on how all the paleological findings could be woven into the Bible so that we could keep that 6,000 year old creation intact. I wasn’t sure if it was written tongue-in-cheek or not but it sounds something like my daughter’s mother-in-law’s views. Our grandson is crazy for dinosaurs and he can tell you more than you ever knew about the subject. That grandmother is sorely tried with all that science thrown at her. ;)
Wiley creator about 8 years ago
It would appear that the irony of life imitating art has been lost on most of the posters here.
mr_sherman Premium Member about 8 years ago
alviebird about 8 years ago
It is obvious that many of the critics of scripture here have based their conclusions on many of the misconceptions which are so prevalent, even among theists. Here are just two:
As I previously stated, mankind was created on the 6th day, which means that when Adam was created there were already plenty of other people(s) around. This explains the many races, and the breeding stock issue. Adam was just the first in the seedline that would produce the messiah.
Let’s go back to square one. The story of creation isn’t about the origins of the Earth, it is about the beginning of an “Age”, which began about six thousand years ago.
Look, I don’t give a hang whether you believe in God, or not. But cherry picking bad translations and bad interpretations to criticize is childish, and makes for a weak argument. You just demonstrate that you are willing to demean and denigrate something that you haven’t even taken the time to try to understand.
route66paul about 8 years ago
I think the Messiah came from the house of David – which could be from Adam or not – as for the literal interpitation, I am sure that the Messiah came from 2 of the 5 that were on Noah’s ark.
ToonMeUP:D about 8 years ago
Yep, you DO NOT want to get involved!