When I read this comic as a kid, I had a hard time picturing whatever Calvin was watching because I wasn’t familiar with the crappy eighties shows like He-Man that this is most likely referencing.
Say what you will about SpongeBob SquarePants, but at least that show actually has fluid animation.
Quite aside from that, look. Given the date of the comic, Dad was a kid in the 1960s. He claiming that the likes of The Mighty Hercules or Clutch Cargo or Mighty Mouse were anything but bargain-basement animation?
Just a few years in and Watterson was already letting disappointment with his industry peers slip out. And it’s predictable that Dad would single out lack of movement, considering what a masterful knack his creator had for conveying motion in print comics.
When it comes to film animation though, nobody did it better than the crew of Termite Terrace.
Of course, if you like the idea of an animated show MAKING FUN of Animated Shows, find “Harvey Birdman; Attorney-at-Law” on DVD. There were also several episodes of “Futurama” that just SHREDDED different animation styles. You haven’t lived until you have seen them done as Japanese Anime characters, or as the “Gang” from “Scooby-Do”!
Most of my education and amazing social abilities were derived from Rocky and Bullwinkle, or “Moose and Squirrel” as Boris would say. For comic relief I turned to Bugs and Daffy, et al.
Warner Brothers’ Loony Tunes and Merrie Melodies were all originally theatrical releases, short subjects to be shown prior to the featured film as were MGM’s Tom & Jerry cartoons, Disney’s Silly Symphonies, and (if I’m not mistaken) Paramount’s Woody Woodpecker shorts. Since they were shown in theaters, they had to amuse the adults as well as the kids. This was back in the day when a small town had only one local movie house (with only one screen), and maybe a drive-in. My point is that the production values were much higher until cartoons began to be made expressly for television. Lower budgets and time constraints led to the loss of background and good musical scores. And while these movie studios did tap in to TV, Hanna-Barbera sort of cornered the market on made-for-TV cartoons, and some of their creations were prime-time offerings; The Flintstones, The Jetsons, Johnny Quest, and Top Cat to name a few. Lord, have I dated myself or what?!?
Yeah, as I recall, Gene was the much more “critical” one, caring too much about the making of the movie(direction, script, lighting, etc.), rather than, was it entertaining. My impression of Roger was that he was more of the “every-man”, thus more in line with the movie-going public.
Wow, what a trip down memory lane, y’all! I woke up to Mighty Mouse and Heckle and Jeckle cartoons (after the whatchamacallit sign went off the air) on Saturdays, and truly weird (to my eyes) ‘toons from the ’30s or ’40s where the characters, when doing nothing else, would bounce up and down to show animation. And the GREAT Popeyes, the old ones, from which the Altman-Willimas film got its weirdness. And of course, the king of them all, Warner Bros. Fast forward 30+ years and they brilliantly reprised themselves with Animaniacs — some of the most hilarious entertainment anywhere. I’d love a station that would bring that stuff back!
My dad did the exact same thing, when one day he went from passive to aggressive and blew up, not understanding why I would watch such garbage. I then watched with a more critical eye to prove they were not garbage, only to conclude that, yes, they were. TV, how could you let me down? It didn’t occur to me until years later to question what my dad would prefer to watch: bad Japanese monster movies. And my choices were garbage? My dad redeemed himself years later when he pointed me toward furry fandom.
Can anyone name a single cartoon, from any decade, that can be described as in panel 3? The closest I can think of is a joke video called “Rocko’s Postmodern Life.”
In the first half of this decade, Cartoon Network’s Saturday morning lineup was pretty much like that; the majority of the shows were action cartoons based off toy lines, and to me they could be pretty boring and occasionally preachy. Except they did move a lot more.
I watched a show like that when I was small. It was supposed to be scary, but it was the cheesiest, most boring, preachy show ever. The only thing it had going for it was that it didn’t just shamelessly plug cheap toys for half an hour.
BE THIS GUY over 6 years ago
Dad, go read a book and leave Calvin alone.
Sugar Bombs 95 over 6 years ago
When I read this comic as a kid, I had a hard time picturing whatever Calvin was watching because I wasn’t familiar with the crappy eighties shows like He-Man that this is most likely referencing.
Say what you will about SpongeBob SquarePants, but at least that show actually has fluid animation.
codycab over 6 years ago
Well excuuuuse us, dad!
Baarorso over 6 years ago
It’s natural you don’t understand cartoons Dad. Cartoons aren’t for you, they’re for kids like Calvin.;-D
Ravenswing over 6 years ago
Quite aside from that, look. Given the date of the comic, Dad was a kid in the 1960s. He claiming that the likes of The Mighty Hercules or Clutch Cargo or Mighty Mouse were anything but bargain-basement animation?
meowlin over 6 years ago
So now you know.
And knowing is half the battle.
Nyckname over 6 years ago
Where’s Hobbes?
Walrus Gumbo Premium Member over 6 years ago
I grew up on Looney Tunes and Tex Avery cartoons and I agree. Cartoons today are crap!
Sisu60 over 6 years ago
the makings of a good cartoon is turn the sound down and if you can still follow 75 to 80% the “action” of the cartoon it is a good cartoon
A Hip loving Canadian... over 6 years ago
Hey Dad, don’t you have a bike to ride?
dlkrueger33 over 6 years ago
Do they even broadcast Looney Tunes nowadays? I haven’t seen Bugs Bunny cartoons in DECADES.
Andrew Sleeth over 6 years ago
Just a few years in and Watterson was already letting disappointment with his industry peers slip out. And it’s predictable that Dad would single out lack of movement, considering what a masterful knack his creator had for conveying motion in print comics.
When it comes to film animation though, nobody did it better than the crew of Termite Terrace.
Masterskrain over 6 years ago
Of course, if you like the idea of an animated show MAKING FUN of Animated Shows, find “Harvey Birdman; Attorney-at-Law” on DVD. There were also several episodes of “Futurama” that just SHREDDED different animation styles. You haven’t lived until you have seen them done as Japanese Anime characters, or as the “Gang” from “Scooby-Do”!
J Short over 6 years ago
I new it was the end of cartoons when they went from using an entire orchestra score to using an accordion.
Packratjohn Premium Member over 6 years ago
Most of my education and amazing social abilities were derived from Rocky and Bullwinkle, or “Moose and Squirrel” as Boris would say. For comic relief I turned to Bugs and Daffy, et al.
johndifool over 6 years ago
So that’s a Thumbs Down then (wayyy down)…
BiggerNate91 over 6 years ago
Today they’re not called cartoons, they’re just called animated shows.
Bubba_Boo Premium Member over 6 years ago
There’s loads of movie critics on You Tube instead.
Bookworm over 6 years ago
Warner Brothers’ Loony Tunes and Merrie Melodies were all originally theatrical releases, short subjects to be shown prior to the featured film as were MGM’s Tom & Jerry cartoons, Disney’s Silly Symphonies, and (if I’m not mistaken) Paramount’s Woody Woodpecker shorts. Since they were shown in theaters, they had to amuse the adults as well as the kids. This was back in the day when a small town had only one local movie house (with only one screen), and maybe a drive-in. My point is that the production values were much higher until cartoons began to be made expressly for television. Lower budgets and time constraints led to the loss of background and good musical scores. And while these movie studios did tap in to TV, Hanna-Barbera sort of cornered the market on made-for-TV cartoons, and some of their creations were prime-time offerings; The Flintstones, The Jetsons, Johnny Quest, and Top Cat to name a few. Lord, have I dated myself or what?!?
ChessPirate over 6 years ago
Yeah, as I recall, Gene was the much more “critical” one, caring too much about the making of the movie(direction, script, lighting, etc.), rather than, was it entertaining. My impression of Roger was that he was more of the “every-man”, thus more in line with the movie-going public.
William Bednar Premium Member over 6 years ago
The cartoon is boring so that Calvin will find the toy commercials more entertaining and pester his parents, especially dad, to go buy the toys.
Herb L 1954 over 6 years ago
Johnny Quest was the one I couldn’t think of.Thanks.Snagglepuss,exit stage right ;~)
dogday Premium Member over 6 years ago
Wow, what a trip down memory lane, y’all! I woke up to Mighty Mouse and Heckle and Jeckle cartoons (after the whatchamacallit sign went off the air) on Saturdays, and truly weird (to my eyes) ‘toons from the ’30s or ’40s where the characters, when doing nothing else, would bounce up and down to show animation. And the GREAT Popeyes, the old ones, from which the Altman-Willimas film got its weirdness. And of course, the king of them all, Warner Bros. Fast forward 30+ years and they brilliantly reprised themselves with Animaniacs — some of the most hilarious entertainment anywhere. I’d love a station that would bring that stuff back!
Ermine Notyours over 6 years ago
My dad did the exact same thing, when one day he went from passive to aggressive and blew up, not understanding why I would watch such garbage. I then watched with a more critical eye to prove they were not garbage, only to conclude that, yes, they were. TV, how could you let me down? It didn’t occur to me until years later to question what my dad would prefer to watch: bad Japanese monster movies. And my choices were garbage? My dad redeemed himself years later when he pointed me toward furry fandom.
rshive over 6 years ago
Cartoons have never been “high” art.
stoogespower over 6 years ago
I too was a kid of the 60s and i agree with Calvins’ pop 100%! :)
formathe over 6 years ago
When I was young cartoon strips used to be funny too. Except Dick Tracy.
mattro65 over 6 years ago
Hey! What’s wrong with Scooby-Doo? Rod Ram It!
Stephen Gilberg over 6 years ago
Can anyone name a single cartoon, from any decade, that can be described as in panel 3? The closest I can think of is a joke video called “Rocko’s Postmodern Life.”
DanWolfie over 6 years ago
In the first half of this decade, Cartoon Network’s Saturday morning lineup was pretty much like that; the majority of the shows were action cartoons based off toy lines, and to me they could be pretty boring and occasionally preachy. Except they did move a lot more.
Kind&Kinder over 6 years ago
I would probably have asked Roger Ebert for his opinion!
jpayne4040 over 6 years ago
It is true that 80s cartoons were just glorified toy commercials!
Auntie Socialist over 6 years ago
Dad you are wasting your time with this conversation
bigcatbusiness over 6 years ago
Simple yet effective. That’s how the older cartoons worked.
bigcatbusiness over 6 years ago
Simple yet effective. That’s how cartoons those days were.
Loki91308 over 2 years ago
I watched a show like that when I was small. It was supposed to be scary, but it was the cheesiest, most boring, preachy show ever. The only thing it had going for it was that it didn’t just shamelessly plug cheap toys for half an hour.