Elly, you imbecile. Keep April in her car seat and put it in the seat of the cart. The car seats have V gaps in the back that fit upon back of the cart seat or some models have the bottom curved where they fit into the cart seat without slippage. No need to use that stroller and lugging along the cart. Look at other mothers and you will see their infants in their car seats in the carts. And why aren’t the doors motion activated? Is that a Canadian thing? All grocery stores in America have motion activated doors. If they were, those two rude patrons wouldn’t be blocking entrance.
Ignoring the idea that this grocery store does not have automatic doors, or bagboy/girls to help a mother take her groceries out to the car, or features Elly using the stroller instead of the baby carrier we have seen her use this week, or a guy saying, “Hey, look, man” like he was from the 1960s/70s; the real question is one of societal expectation.
If a man is standing near a door talking to a young woman, and he is approached by another woman pushing a baby carriage and a grocery cart, is it his obligation to notice the woman with the carriage/groceries and stop talking to the other woman and open the door, without being asked? Is it true that if the woman has to ask the man to open the door, then he is not a gentleman, even if he does actually open the door?
When my children were so young that they couldn’t yet sit up by themselves, I would put them in a “Snuggly”, which was like a backpack on my stomach, and shop with them that way. But as soon as they could sit up by themselves, they sat in the “baby seat” of the shopping cart. April is still small enough to be toted in a back-pack-like carrier.
One time my husband held a door for a woman. She glared at him & said, “I’m perfectly capable of opening my OWN door!” So, he closed the door behind him.
It doesn’t look to me like she would’ve had room for the car seat in the cart. Also, this is an older strip. It wasn’t as easy then. For Pete’s sake, people, leave Ella alone for once. She can’t seem to anything right.
By the way, it is polite to hold the door for a parent with a small child, regardless of the gender of the parent, and regardless of the gender of the person who would hold the door.
Mr. “Voice activated door” would have been more helpful had he opened the door and held it open from the other side.
Lok, I do open the door for people with their hands full, and offer my seat to the elderly and the pregnant, because my mom raised me that way. But I don’t think it’s fair to complain about discourtesy even when people happily do open the door or give you their seat the second you ask.That people should infer your needs and satisfy them without you saying a word is reasonable to ask for when it comes to a spouse or a friend. But when it’s a stranger, you should just be grateful that they do as you ask, and not insist that they have to fulfill requests you didn’t even make.
Did I tell you the story about the “gentleman”, and I use that term for him, loosely? I stand waiting for a guy (older than me) that is ahead of me, to hold the door open for me to enter, too. He didn’t. I went in; guy sees pretty young thing coming in, and practically falls on his face, scrambling back to the door to open it for her. I couldn’t let it go, so I asked him as he walked by me, “what am I, chopped liver”? He gave me a confused look. I don’t argue with the clueless.
I don’t think this is a man/woman thing or a how to do it yourself thing, I see this panel as just a look around you and be courteous reminder. I do agree that younger generations don’t seem to be around elders as much, to learn the social mores anymore. The plus side is they’re designing motion detectors that open doors without anyone needing to pay attention to others.
Remember, car seats were different back then, this is an repeat from the 70’s/ 80’s. Yes I’m old but I still enjoy this strip, I even remember some of the story lines. I know in the 70’s – 80’s I did not take car seats in the store, they were too bulky and did not fit in the carts at all!
I hold the door for ANYONE, young or old, male or female behind me. One time a fem-fascist very loudly lectured me that she could do it herself. Problem was the door in question was in need of repairs because it slammed shut very quickly. I told her that she should back up a bit because of that problem, whereupon she very loudly and profanely told me off. The door slammed, she got a bloody nose, and she proceeded to lodge a formal complaint against me. An individual high up in the Campus Human Rights Committee witnessed the event and spoke up for me. I do not know what happened to the woman, but it illustrated that sometimes there is justice in the Universe.
What would Elly have done if there was no one near the door? She needs to leave the baby with someone while she shops or put the baby in the pouch that straps to her body.
I just want to wade in here and say thank you. Thank you to every man or woman who has ever held a door open for me. Thank you especially when you did it because I was pregnant, or grappling with a toddler, or both. Thank you to the women who held doors open for me when I tried to go shopping with a baby in a stroller and it was almost impossible to open the doors. Thank you, for your kindness. You didn’t just open one door for me, you held both doors open in a double-door entry. And thank you for not being critical of me when I had more than one child in the store with me and someone was acting up. Even then, you helped me just by being kind. Thank you.
capricorn9th over 4 years ago
Elly, you imbecile. Keep April in her car seat and put it in the seat of the cart. The car seats have V gaps in the back that fit upon back of the cart seat or some models have the bottom curved where they fit into the cart seat without slippage. No need to use that stroller and lugging along the cart. Look at other mothers and you will see their infants in their car seats in the carts. And why aren’t the doors motion activated? Is that a Canadian thing? All grocery stores in America have motion activated doors. If they were, those two rude patrons wouldn’t be blocking entrance.
howtheduck over 4 years ago
Ignoring the idea that this grocery store does not have automatic doors, or bagboy/girls to help a mother take her groceries out to the car, or features Elly using the stroller instead of the baby carrier we have seen her use this week, or a guy saying, “Hey, look, man” like he was from the 1960s/70s; the real question is one of societal expectation.
If a man is standing near a door talking to a young woman, and he is approached by another woman pushing a baby carriage and a grocery cart, is it his obligation to notice the woman with the carriage/groceries and stop talking to the other woman and open the door, without being asked? Is it true that if the woman has to ask the man to open the door, then he is not a gentleman, even if he does actually open the door?
rekam Premium Member over 4 years ago
And did they have car seats that actually fit like that into the carts when this was originally written?
jmworacle over 4 years ago
I have a comment but the censors would bar me from posting again.
jpayne4040 over 4 years ago
(face-palm)
GirlGeek Premium Member over 4 years ago
Why are you two blocking the entrance if the doors are motion-activated?
dlkrueger33 over 4 years ago
When my children were so young that they couldn’t yet sit up by themselves, I would put them in a “Snuggly”, which was like a backpack on my stomach, and shop with them that way. But as soon as they could sit up by themselves, they sat in the “baby seat” of the shopping cart. April is still small enough to be toted in a back-pack-like carrier.
tripwire45 over 4 years ago
Actually, I always open the door for people, but I guess the cartoonist is saying that’s rather uncommon among some younger folks.
Wren Fahel over 4 years ago
One time my husband held a door for a woman. She glared at him & said, “I’m perfectly capable of opening my OWN door!” So, he closed the door behind him.
mjjk1985 over 4 years ago
It doesn’t look to me like she would’ve had room for the car seat in the cart. Also, this is an older strip. It wasn’t as easy then. For Pete’s sake, people, leave Ella alone for once. She can’t seem to anything right.
Jogger2 over 4 years ago
By the way, it is polite to hold the door for a parent with a small child, regardless of the gender of the parent, and regardless of the gender of the person who would hold the door.
Mr. “Voice activated door” would have been more helpful had he opened the door and held it open from the other side.
Katsuro Premium Member over 4 years ago
Lok, I do open the door for people with their hands full, and offer my seat to the elderly and the pregnant, because my mom raised me that way. But I don’t think it’s fair to complain about discourtesy even when people happily do open the door or give you their seat the second you ask.That people should infer your needs and satisfy them without you saying a word is reasonable to ask for when it comes to a spouse or a friend. But when it’s a stranger, you should just be grateful that they do as you ask, and not insist that they have to fulfill requests you didn’t even make.
summerdog over 4 years ago
Elly CARRIES April everywhere at home, and she can’t carry her at the store to free up her arms?
summerdog over 4 years ago
Did I tell you the story about the “gentleman”, and I use that term for him, loosely? I stand waiting for a guy (older than me) that is ahead of me, to hold the door open for me to enter, too. He didn’t. I went in; guy sees pretty young thing coming in, and practically falls on his face, scrambling back to the door to open it for her. I couldn’t let it go, so I asked him as he walked by me, “what am I, chopped liver”? He gave me a confused look. I don’t argue with the clueless.
Judy Saint Premium Member over 4 years ago
I don’t think this is a man/woman thing or a how to do it yourself thing, I see this panel as just a look around you and be courteous reminder. I do agree that younger generations don’t seem to be around elders as much, to learn the social mores anymore. The plus side is they’re designing motion detectors that open doors without anyone needing to pay attention to others.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member over 4 years ago
Being a ‘gentle man’ got complicated when women’s lib heated up. I’m not against equal rights. Just not willing to be chastised for trying to be nice.
donnagant622 over 4 years ago
My husband still opens doors for me, even my car door, and we will be celebrating 39 years of wedded bliss this November
joank52 over 4 years ago
OMG People. It’s a comic strip! Elly was trying to make a point. Why are these people standing in front of the exit door?
Cincoflex over 4 years ago
wait . . . did your washing machine at home break? Why are you at the laundromat anyway?
melissa over 4 years ago
Remember, car seats were different back then, this is an repeat from the 70’s/ 80’s. Yes I’m old but I still enjoy this strip, I even remember some of the story lines. I know in the 70’s – 80’s I did not take car seats in the store, they were too bulky and did not fit in the carts at all!
BiathlonNut over 4 years ago
I hold the door for ANYONE, young or old, male or female behind me. One time a fem-fascist very loudly lectured me that she could do it herself. Problem was the door in question was in need of repairs because it slammed shut very quickly. I told her that she should back up a bit because of that problem, whereupon she very loudly and profanely told me off. The door slammed, she got a bloody nose, and she proceeded to lodge a formal complaint against me. An individual high up in the Campus Human Rights Committee witnessed the event and spoke up for me. I do not know what happened to the woman, but it illustrated that sometimes there is justice in the Universe.
locake over 4 years ago
What would Elly have done if there was no one near the door? She needs to leave the baby with someone while she shops or put the baby in the pouch that straps to her body.
ariel777000 over 4 years ago
I just want to wade in here and say thank you. Thank you to every man or woman who has ever held a door open for me. Thank you especially when you did it because I was pregnant, or grappling with a toddler, or both. Thank you to the women who held doors open for me when I tried to go shopping with a baby in a stroller and it was almost impossible to open the doors. Thank you, for your kindness. You didn’t just open one door for me, you held both doors open in a double-door entry. And thank you for not being critical of me when I had more than one child in the store with me and someone was acting up. Even then, you helped me just by being kind. Thank you.
spparent70 over 4 years ago
It’s a comic strip you idiot