I was raised in a progressive Republican household where I was told of TR’s lament that “In God, we trust” on money was sacrilege, and that “under God” was wrong when added to the pledge of allegiance as it nullified “indivisible”.
It is sad that the people were not given the chance to vote on such a matter as in so many states the legislators vote as they wish or have been paid to do be darned, the editors said that in free speech America I could not use that naughty word, geesh America is losing freedoms and here we are worrying about naughty words, what are we 5? Oh well.
Because I have always lived near Chicago, the pinnacle of culture would be the Art Institute of Chicago, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, and the Lyric Opera of Chicago. To the East of Illinois, Indiana contained our country cousins whose pinnacle of culture was watching loud cars go around in a circle at the Indianapolis 500.
I see that the Church sign is above the State sign.
(“Crossroads of America” is a motto commonly used here in Indiana.)
As regards the recent vote on abortion, it may be worth noting that a few GOP members of the legislature opposed this bill. In addition, some money was included to address “family” issues such as adoption, prenatal care, and other support services. However, given Indiana’s poor record for these things in the past, high mortality rates for mothers and infants, these provisions, although better than nothing, are yet too little, too late. Lilly and Cummins have both pushed back against the bill, and other entities may choose to respond, as well. I expect that their may be legal challenges coming. The rational for the bill was about 99.44% religious based emotion. But this is no surprise. I have yet to see a cogent “pro-life” argument based on empirical science and jurisprudence instead of “christian” hand wringing. Holding an anti-abortion position is not the same thing as holding a pro-life position, which the Indiana legislature, with this harbinger of similar future laws in other states, has proved in spades.)
TAX THE CHURCHES!! They want to be a Political Action Committee? Then let them follow the SAME RULES as everyone else!!!
Political parties; campaign committees for candidates for federal, state or local office; and political action committees are all political organizations subject to tax under IRC section 527.
Section 527 organizations are generally required to file one or more of the following:
An initial noticePeriodic reports on contributions and expendituresAnnual income tax returns andAnnual information returns
one might study history and possibly learn something.“Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.” : There is nothing I dread so much as the division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our constitution. ( John Adams). The founding fathers were very intelligent well studied and thoughtful men. They were not off the cuff tweeters.
RAGs almost 2 years ago
But only one church is allowed …
Concretionist almost 2 years ago
State’s rights trump the constitution. SCROTUS says so!
knutdl almost 2 years ago
Separation of church and state: “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” (Mark 12:17) Who said that? (OMG)
superposition almost 2 years ago
I was raised in a progressive Republican household where I was told of TR’s lament that “In God, we trust” on money was sacrilege, and that “under God” was wrong when added to the pledge of allegiance as it nullified “indivisible”.
ncrist almost 2 years ago
separation of the two would guarantee that everyone is guided by their own morality
Brockie almost 2 years ago
It is sad that the people were not given the chance to vote on such a matter as in so many states the legislators vote as they wish or have been paid to do be darned, the editors said that in free speech America I could not use that naughty word, geesh America is losing freedoms and here we are worrying about naughty words, what are we 5? Oh well.
For a Just and Peaceful World almost 2 years ago
Because I have always lived near Chicago, the pinnacle of culture would be the Art Institute of Chicago, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, and the Lyric Opera of Chicago. To the East of Illinois, Indiana contained our country cousins whose pinnacle of culture was watching loud cars go around in a circle at the Indianapolis 500.
FreyjaRN Premium Member almost 2 years ago
It’s a fine idea. Too bad the Rethugliecons don’t agree.
akachman Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Indiana: continuing it’s decent backwards.
A# 466 almost 2 years ago
I see that the Church sign is above the State sign.
(“Crossroads of America” is a motto commonly used here in Indiana.)
As regards the recent vote on abortion, it may be worth noting that a few GOP members of the legislature opposed this bill. In addition, some money was included to address “family” issues such as adoption, prenatal care, and other support services. However, given Indiana’s poor record for these things in the past, high mortality rates for mothers and infants, these provisions, although better than nothing, are yet too little, too late. Lilly and Cummins have both pushed back against the bill, and other entities may choose to respond, as well. I expect that their may be legal challenges coming. The rational for the bill was about 99.44% religious based emotion. But this is no surprise. I have yet to see a cogent “pro-life” argument based on empirical science and jurisprudence instead of “christian” hand wringing. Holding an anti-abortion position is not the same thing as holding a pro-life position, which the Indiana legislature, with this harbinger of similar future laws in other states, has proved in spades.)
Odon Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Indiana right wingers demonstrating they too can respond to a bell.
Zebrastripes almost 2 years ago
This isn’t over. Yet!
mourdac Premium Member almost 2 years ago
It’s too bad that history and civics are ignored by so many in the U.S.
davidthoms1 almost 2 years ago
Those who try to mix Government and religion fail at both. Christian Nationalists are neither Christians nor Patriots!
More Coffee Please! Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Those who cannot remember the past… Are a$$holes.
Display almost 2 years ago
The separation between theocratic religion and state has become the union of “church” (so much more like a very warped cult of theocrats) and hate.
Masterskrain almost 2 years ago
The Republican Christaliban wants a Theocracy where EVERYONE HAS TO WORSHIP THEIR GOD! PERIOD!!!
brwydave Premium Member almost 2 years ago
IT’S THE HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN????
rlaker22j almost 2 years ago
Republicans have been reading up on the Spanish Inquisition
Lola85 Premium Member almost 2 years ago
Since religions are becoming more political (i.e, SCOTUS), then maybe it’s time to get rid of their tax-exempt status.
Pickled Pete almost 2 years ago
https://imgur.com/gallery/pZiFBVN
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member almost 2 years ago
But not in a good way…
charliekane almost 2 years ago
The business community backed up Mike Pence a few years ago on a different but similar issue. This time, it didn’t work.
Masterskrain almost 2 years ago
TAX THE CHURCHES!! They want to be a Political Action Committee? Then let them follow the SAME RULES as everyone else!!!
Political parties; campaign committees for candidates for federal, state or local office; and political action committees are all political organizations subject to tax under IRC section 527.
Section 527 organizations are generally required to file one or more of the following:
An initial noticePeriodic reports on contributions and expendituresAnnual income tax returns andAnnual information returnstee929 almost 2 years ago
Church is also a ONE WAY street.
klbdds almost 2 years ago
one might study history and possibly learn something.“Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.” : There is nothing I dread so much as the division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our constitution. ( John Adams). The founding fathers were very intelligent well studied and thoughtful men. They were not off the cuff tweeters.