So, it makes sense as a holiday in Texas… Where the current governor and legislature probably long for the good ol’ days (and ignore the fact that one of the reasons Texas rebelled against Mexico originally was because Mexico was planning to end slavery – they don’t mention when they remember the Alamo). Does it make as much sense in other states which had ended it far earlier? The rest of country needs to celebrate Texas for being the most backward state in the union in 1865? A status some of Texans still want (but competition is pretty fierce with Florida and a couple others)
Free the Jackson Five! Seriously, 38% of our fellow citizens seem to want to enslave or eliminate the 62% of us who are just minding our own business, trying to get on, trying to do the right thing.
Many comments over on Arlo and Janis as well, but none of them (that I remember anyway) mentioned facts about TX and the war with Mexico in relation to slavery by LawrenceS above.
This comic made me smile – especially after reading the comments on a local Patch article about a special event for Juneteenth at a local library. One of the usual MAGA folks who pops up daily in the comments complained that the day should honor Abraham Lincoln and “the union soldiers who freed the slaves.”
Yes, I’m serious. So was he, insisting the day should be all about white people. I guess he never realized how many Black soldiers fought with the Union army…
Nice tribute to a slightly misguided holiday. And I’m never fond of using a “holiday” to push a questionable or inaccurate point of view or telling of history (see: Columbus Day).
Whether we are allowed to debate whether some arbitrarily-selected date deserves to be celebrated as “the end of slavery,” as pointed out by other commenters, Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation only declared slaves free if they were held in areas that had been controlled by Confederate rebels, not in slave states that remained loyal to the union, such as Delaware and Kentucky. Any remaining slaves in those two states were not freed until ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment in December 1865.
In addition, another poster cited “Black people settled on Juneteenth as the day to celebrate about a hundred years ago.” You probably meant “SOME Black people….” I thought the whole point of “anti-racism” was to NOT treat people as a monolith based on race or whatever. I can find lots of “White” people that don’t celebrate Easter, St. Patrick’s Day, or whatever. (I know some very proud Irish-Americans who make it a point NOT to observe “Amateur Irish Day”.) Columbus Day was and is equally arbitrary and ridiculous, I’ve knows some Whites that wouldn’t stand for the National Anthem, if that’s still a thing. I’ve known a couple Blacks that disparaged the whole Kwanzaa celebration, well-intentioned as it might be.
I’m fine with celebrating the end of slavery as a concept. The problem occurs with declaring every politically expedient excuse as a Federal holiday, which means another day where eighty percent of the public get the day off to go make life hell for the other 20% (lifeguards, paramedics, restaurant workers, store clerks, etc.)
well.. except for those 4 states with legal slavery that didn’t rebel (MD, KY, MO, DE) – the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t apply to them, only areas in the state of rebellion.And by 17 June 1865, 2 of them still had legalized slavery – not ended until Dec 18, 1865.
well.. except for those 4 states with legal slavery that didn’t rebel (MD, KY, MO, DE) – the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t apply to them, only areas in the state of rebellion.And by 17 June 1865, 2 of them still had legalized slavery – not ended until Dec 18, 1865.But yes, the idea of freedom and future freedom in those states that rebelled to ensure slavery would always be the way of life for them, the final area that had force still under arms and not surrendering fell (they fled to Mexico) in June 1865 and the proclamation reached the farthest reaches on the 17th – thus bringing all of Texas, and all of the Confederacy, under the Proclamation.
well.. except for those 4 states with legal slavery that didn’t rebel (MD, KY, MO, DE) – the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t apply to them, only areas in the state of rebellion.And by 17 June 1865, 2 of them still had legalized slavery – not ended until Dec 18, 1865.But yes, the idea of freedom and future freedom in those states that rebelled to ensure slavery would always be the way of life for them, the final area that had force still under arms and not surrendering fell (they fled to Mexico) in June 1865 and the proclamation reached the farthest reaches on the 17th – thus bringing all of Texas, and all of the Confederacy, under the Proclamation.And thus, the choice of the date (that and – too many federal holidays in Oct-Jan to add another).
The argument that State’s Rights is to protect the Sovereignty of the State seems to be a thin veil that attempts to protect racism and misogyny being practiced in that state against its citizens.
TwilightFaze over 1 year ago
I won’t disagree. Happy Juneteenth, everybody!
ncrist over 1 year ago
AWESOME
Fritzsch over 1 year ago
No one is free until we are all free.
OldsVistaCruiser over 1 year ago
Beautiful history lesson. It shouldn’t have taken that long, both for those slaves in Galveston, and for Juneteenth to be made a federal holiday.
LawrenceS over 1 year ago
So, it makes sense as a holiday in Texas… Where the current governor and legislature probably long for the good ol’ days (and ignore the fact that one of the reasons Texas rebelled against Mexico originally was because Mexico was planning to end slavery – they don’t mention when they remember the Alamo). Does it make as much sense in other states which had ended it far earlier? The rest of country needs to celebrate Texas for being the most backward state in the union in 1865? A status some of Texans still want (but competition is pretty fierce with Florida and a couple others)
Super Fly over 1 year ago
Free the Jackson Five! Seriously, 38% of our fellow citizens seem to want to enslave or eliminate the 62% of us who are just minding our own business, trying to get on, trying to do the right thing.
ShadowMaster over 1 year ago
Nice tribute.
Durak Premium Member over 1 year ago
One of the few tributes I’ve seen. Well done.
Cincoflex over 1 year ago
I do love Gracie and her enthusiasm!
Newenglandah over 1 year ago
Personally, I would say that American slavery didn’t really end until the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Then again, there are forces today looking to gut or reverse that piece of legislation.
The Orange Mailman over 1 year ago
Many comments over on Arlo and Janis as well, but none of them (that I remember anyway) mentioned facts about TX and the war with Mexico in relation to slavery by LawrenceS above.
drbethdance over 1 year ago
This comic made me smile – especially after reading the comments on a local Patch article about a special event for Juneteenth at a local library. One of the usual MAGA folks who pops up daily in the comments complained that the day should honor Abraham Lincoln and “the union soldiers who freed the slaves.”
Yes, I’m serious. So was he, insisting the day should be all about white people. I guess he never realized how many Black soldiers fought with the Union army…
Templo S.U.D. over 1 year ago
{salute}
eced52 over 1 year ago
Guess everyone forgot that Lincoln ended slavery 160 years ago this year.
DarkHorseSki over 1 year ago
Juneteenth makes no sense as a holiday for anybody outside of Texas.
LNER4472 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Nice tribute to a slightly misguided holiday. And I’m never fond of using a “holiday” to push a questionable or inaccurate point of view or telling of history (see: Columbus Day).
Whether we are allowed to debate whether some arbitrarily-selected date deserves to be celebrated as “the end of slavery,” as pointed out by other commenters, Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation only declared slaves free if they were held in areas that had been controlled by Confederate rebels, not in slave states that remained loyal to the union, such as Delaware and Kentucky. Any remaining slaves in those two states were not freed until ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment in December 1865.
In addition, another poster cited “Black people settled on Juneteenth as the day to celebrate about a hundred years ago.” You probably meant “SOME Black people….” I thought the whole point of “anti-racism” was to NOT treat people as a monolith based on race or whatever. I can find lots of “White” people that don’t celebrate Easter, St. Patrick’s Day, or whatever. (I know some very proud Irish-Americans who make it a point NOT to observe “Amateur Irish Day”.) Columbus Day was and is equally arbitrary and ridiculous, I’ve knows some Whites that wouldn’t stand for the National Anthem, if that’s still a thing. I’ve known a couple Blacks that disparaged the whole Kwanzaa celebration, well-intentioned as it might be.
I’m fine with celebrating the end of slavery as a concept. The problem occurs with declaring every politically expedient excuse as a Federal holiday, which means another day where eighty percent of the public get the day off to go make life hell for the other 20% (lifeguards, paramedics, restaurant workers, store clerks, etc.)
Timothy Madigan Premium Member over 1 year ago
well.. except for those 4 states with legal slavery that didn’t rebel (MD, KY, MO, DE) – the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t apply to them, only areas in the state of rebellion.And by 17 June 1865, 2 of them still had legalized slavery – not ended until Dec 18, 1865.
well.. except for those 4 states with legal slavery that didn’t rebel (MD, KY, MO, DE) – the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t apply to them, only areas in the state of rebellion.And by 17 June 1865, 2 of them still had legalized slavery – not ended until Dec 18, 1865.But yes, the idea of freedom and future freedom in those states that rebelled to ensure slavery would always be the way of life for them, the final area that had force still under arms and not surrendering fell (they fled to Mexico) in June 1865 and the proclamation reached the farthest reaches on the 17th – thus bringing all of Texas, and all of the Confederacy, under the Proclamation.
well.. except for those 4 states with legal slavery that didn’t rebel (MD, KY, MO, DE) – the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t apply to them, only areas in the state of rebellion.And by 17 June 1865, 2 of them still had legalized slavery – not ended until Dec 18, 1865.But yes, the idea of freedom and future freedom in those states that rebelled to ensure slavery would always be the way of life for them, the final area that had force still under arms and not surrendering fell (they fled to Mexico) in June 1865 and the proclamation reached the farthest reaches on the 17th – thus bringing all of Texas, and all of the Confederacy, under the Proclamation.And thus, the choice of the date (that and – too many federal holidays in Oct-Jan to add another).
mrwiskers over 1 year ago
The argument that State’s Rights is to protect the Sovereignty of the State seems to be a thin veil that attempts to protect racism and misogyny being practiced in that state against its citizens.