“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”
I wonder if GW favored the Electoral College, as it makes two major parties inevitable.
And now one of the two has no actual principles at all. ""Abortion is EVIL! Oh, a Republican paid for abortions? OK. FAMILY VALUES! What? A porn star? Brags about being a debaucher? OK."
Yeah, the fact that either party can claim, with a straight face, to be upholding the founding fathers’ vizion of American freedom is part of the reazon why I don’t trust the government.
I don’t really understand Washington’s abhorrence of political parties – given that this was common behavior in Europe – and – the most of us are Europeans, after all.
Parties aren’t of themselves evil. They do seem rather inevitable, inasmuch as one person against pretty much anything doesn’t usually get very far, as opposed to a group of like-minded individuals – a party.
Our problem is that one party is off-the-rails, threatening to take the country and the world with it.
“If you can keep your head when all about you men are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you but make allowances for their doubting, too.
If you can wait but not be tired of waiting, or being lied about, don’t deal in lies, Or being hated, don’t give way to hating, and yet don’t look too good nor talk too wise,
If you can dream but not make dreams your master,
If you can think and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with triumph and disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same,
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to broken, and stoop and build them up with worn-out tools,
If you can make one heap of all your winnings and risk it on one turn of pitch and toss, and lose and start again at your beginnings and never breathe a word about your loss,
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew to serve your turn long after they are gone, and to hold on when there is nothing in you but the will that says to them “hold on,
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, or walk with kings nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, if all men count with you but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute with 60 seconds worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it, and which is more, you’ll be a man, my son."
Joe Biden is that man! That is why he deserves to be president. He’s shown us over and over again. Forget party!
The dude from FL Premium Member 6 months ago
I can hear him from here! trump has loyal people? HOW? He is not loyal to anybody!
braindead Premium Member 6 months ago
Biden should have Trump taken into custody pending the outcome of his various trials.
You know, officially.
RobinHood 6 months ago
“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”
John Adams
Ignatz Premium Member 6 months ago
I wonder if GW favored the Electoral College, as it makes two major parties inevitable.
And now one of the two has no actual principles at all. ""Abortion is EVIL! Oh, a Republican paid for abortions? OK. FAMILY VALUES! What? A porn star? Brags about being a debaucher? OK."
Doctor Toon 6 months ago
I’m spinning already and hopefully nowhere near my grave, but that’s just my head
Slowly, he turned... 6 months ago
You can also hear him crying
Twelve Badgers in a Suit Premium Member 6 months ago
Yeah, the fact that either party can claim, with a straight face, to be upholding the founding fathers’ vizion of American freedom is part of the reazon why I don’t trust the government.
Cheapskate0 6 months ago
I don’t really understand Washington’s abhorrence of political parties – given that this was common behavior in Europe – and – the most of us are Europeans, after all.
Parties aren’t of themselves evil. They do seem rather inevitable, inasmuch as one person against pretty much anything doesn’t usually get very far, as opposed to a group of like-minded individuals – a party.
Our problem is that one party is off-the-rails, threatening to take the country and the world with it.
bobbyferrel 6 months ago
I’ve been to DC. Seen the Washington monument. Terrible thing. Looks nothing like the guy.
Dapperdan61 Premium Member 6 months ago
MTG mocks lawmakers working in a bipartisan fashion. She calls them the Uniparty. How awful putting Country above party
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] 6 months ago
Abraham Lincoln became President in a 4-way race and nobody got anywhere near a majority
dlw54650 Premium Member 6 months ago
Remember the poem “If” by Rudyard Kipling
“If you can keep your head when all about you men are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you but make allowances for their doubting, too.
If you can wait but not be tired of waiting, or being lied about, don’t deal in lies, Or being hated, don’t give way to hating, and yet don’t look too good nor talk too wise,
If you can dream but not make dreams your master,
If you can think and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with triumph and disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same,
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to broken, and stoop and build them up with worn-out tools,
If you can make one heap of all your winnings and risk it on one turn of pitch and toss, and lose and start again at your beginnings and never breathe a word about your loss,
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew to serve your turn long after they are gone, and to hold on when there is nothing in you but the will that says to them “hold on,
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, or walk with kings nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, if all men count with you but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute with 60 seconds worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it, and which is more, you’ll be a man, my son."
Joe Biden is that man! That is why he deserves to be president. He’s shown us over and over again. Forget party!
Walter Kocker 6 months ago
Speaking of England: Has Sunak conceded, or is he awaiting a rainstorm?
JediSQL Premium Member 4 months ago
The Democrats and the Republicans are equal threats to our liberty.