Do these people really believe that crime only happens in California? Yes, big cities everywhere have more crime in total numbers because they have more people. They ignore the fact that rural areas have higher crime rates per person since they have less people but more crimes per persons.
Truth is I know little about Proposition 47 other than it is in the middle of California’s crime crises. It had to do with sentencing and bail reform if I am right. Well, now you have criminals who have been released 20 or more times. That sounds normal to me.
The red state murder rate was 33% higher than the blue state murder rate in both 2021 and 2022.
2022 was the 23rd consecutive year that murder plagued Trump-voting states at far higher levels than Biden-voting states.
8 out of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2022 voted for Donald Trump in both 2016 and 2020.
From 2000 to 2022, the average red state murder rate was 24% higher than the average blue state murder rate.
Red states like Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama are America’s murder capitals and have had the highest three murder rates for 15 of the last 23 years.
The excuse that sky high red state murder rates are because of their blue cities is without merit. Even after removing the county with the largest city from red states, and not from blue states, red state murder rates were still 20% higher in 2021 and 16% higher in 2022.
And why are there so many comments about crime statistics that have nothing to do with the Proposition itself? With innuendo rather than reference to the actual content of the Proposition, LIsa has totally misrepresented its actual effect on California’s criminal justice system.
According to a long Wikipedia article, Proposition 47 did not make legal any acts that were previously illegal. It did reduce the classification of some crimes from “felony” to “misdemeanor”, but:
1) It did not do so for any crimes involving violence.
2) Even for those crimes where the classification was reduced, it specifically excluded from that reduction anyone who had been previously convicted of a sexual or violent crime.
3) With a few minor additions to the list where prior law was vague, Proposition 47 was merely a restatement of law in effect since 1982, but updating dollar amounts for inflation. (I.e., it recognized that what cost $10 in 1982 cost almost $24 in 1914.)
ibFrank 4 days ago
The price to fight crime cost more than the crime themself and only those without money seems to have to pay for their crimes.
think it through 4 days ago
Do these people really believe that crime only happens in California? Yes, big cities everywhere have more crime in total numbers because they have more people. They ignore the fact that rural areas have higher crime rates per person since they have less people but more crimes per persons.
GOGOPOWERANGERS 4 days ago
Red states have more crime than blue ones
aristoclesplato9 4 days ago
Dems think crime goes down when you stop reporting it and arresting people. People know crime is up in blue states and it’s worse than red states.
mxy 4 days ago
This is what you keep voting for. What’s the problem now?
Sun 4 days ago
Lawless Democrats encourage crime.
Jack7528 4 days ago
Truth is I know little about Proposition 47 other than it is in the middle of California’s crime crises. It had to do with sentencing and bail reform if I am right. Well, now you have criminals who have been released 20 or more times. That sounds normal to me.
lanainutahdesert 4 days ago
Make billionaires illegal.
njchris 4 days ago
Didn’t the SCOTUS just rule that bribing government officials is legal.
Radish the wordsmith 4 days ago
The red state murder rate was 33% higher than the blue state murder rate in both 2021 and 2022.
2022 was the 23rd consecutive year that murder plagued Trump-voting states at far higher levels than Biden-voting states.
8 out of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2022 voted for Donald Trump in both 2016 and 2020.
From 2000 to 2022, the average red state murder rate was 24% higher than the average blue state murder rate.
Red states like Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama are America’s murder capitals and have had the highest three murder rates for 15 of the last 23 years.
The excuse that sky high red state murder rates are because of their blue cities is without merit. Even after removing the county with the largest city from red states, and not from blue states, red state murder rates were still 20% higher in 2021 and 16% higher in 2022.
elvisgirl3 4 days ago
Looney Tunes, did originate there!
Radish the wordsmith 4 days ago
Lying Republican criminals get away with theft all the time.
gammaguy 4 days ago
Lying cartoon!
And why are there so many comments about crime statistics that have nothing to do with the Proposition itself? With innuendo rather than reference to the actual content of the Proposition, LIsa has totally misrepresented its actual effect on California’s criminal justice system.
According to a long Wikipedia article, Proposition 47 did not make legal any acts that were previously illegal. It did reduce the classification of some crimes from “felony” to “misdemeanor”, but:
1) It did not do so for any crimes involving violence.
2) Even for those crimes where the classification was reduced, it specifically excluded from that reduction anyone who had been previously convicted of a sexual or violent crime.
3) With a few minor additions to the list where prior law was vague, Proposition 47 was merely a restatement of law in effect since 1982, but updating dollar amounts for inflation. (I.e., it recognized that what cost $10 in 1982 cost almost $24 in 1914.)
braindead Premium Member 4 days ago
Not to worry, LIsa.
The MAGAt Supreme Court has make political payoffs legal.
Next up, legalization of Bribes, in case any Republicans mess up on their timing.
zerorest 3 days ago
Interesting choice of colors.Surely and accident, not.
sandpiper35 3 days ago
That better not be a black person under that mask!