It is true that all great stories are based on just a gran of truth. Usually, the weight of the enhancements has succeeded in vaporizing the grain into indiscernible particulate matter. But the original starting point was there, when the screenwriter showed up to kill it off.
Now, now, Richard, let’s not get into specific religion bashing. If you consider everything that the bible claims to have happened anciently, there’s nothing wholly unheard of that Mormons believe.
I swear Wiley’s done this publicist schtick about Moses before, but in another form. Could have been another biblical figure though; I’ll admit my memory’s a little fuzzy.
This one is getting a little old. There was one about Moses writing memoirs earlier this year. Try picking on someone else, like Joshua or Elijah or Elisha.
And that was AFTER the Aaron told him that the lack of papyrus forced them to cut back the length of the Creation story from Billions and Billions of years to 7 days.(see “How it Happened” by Isaac Asimov)
I was sitting here composing a comment about how the screenwriter was already working on his next project, which had a working title of ‘Touched by God; The Sequel’ starring Jesus Christ, when my electricity quit. It was dark and cold for about 15 minutes, then power returned. I can take a hint, so my comment today is a wish for a happy New Year to one and all.
Nobody has mentioned the Flying Spaghetti Monster? You athiests think you’re smart by figuring out a logical explanation for stories that you claim never happened in the first place! Haha the joke’s on you you when you die, go to wherever, and find out the whole story! Why is it impossible to believe in a superior being that causes miracles – or whatever you want to call them – on Earth? You don’t know what happened, and you will never find out until the day after you die! Maybe not even then! Who knows? I don’t!
Look, Moses at the top of the hill, getting the tablets…please note that our entire civilization is based on a story with NO witnessess…right up to and including Revelation. Whooops…you mean God might NOT step in and save us?
That it’s ALL a very clever PR job?
That we should maybe rethink sitting around waiting for Him?
Guillotines on Wall Street, that’s the ticket. It’ll work for fifty years. Then they’ll repeal Glass-Steagal again…
if i recall, there was a significant ww1 or 2 battle fought in the northern valleys, and won by the allies, as the general recalled one of Moses’ pincer-flanking victories there. it has been said that most of that section of the bible is a profound record of military cunning on his behalf.
If that many people wandered around the desert for forty years, there would still be a lot of evidence of it. Waste of all kinds would have been left behind, the trampling of fragile desert ecology, evidence of large crowds staying in one place for a while than moving on would be seen. You’d probably see evidence from orbit. That many people over that long of time would left a lot of artifacts…Archeologists haven’t found anything like that….
I’m open to a great Spirit or something. But for me, all dogma, from all religions is just plain silly and defies credulity and common sense. But, Each to their own taste", said the woman as she kissed a cow…..
‘Like I have always thought; The Bible is claimed to be the “Word of God”. Well, how much of it was written by God? NONE!!!It’s a collection of fables, stories handed down from one generation to the next, letters, monographs, and other assorted drivel!’
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Actually, most of the Bible does not claim to be the Word of God. Offhand, I can think only of some of the prophets’ words that say, “Thus says the Lord.”
The Catholic Church claims that the Bible books were inspired by the Spirit, and recognized as telling God’s story by the Spirit-guided Church. In short, these books and texts tell, in the idiom of their authors and cultures, of the God we have experienced. And of our own history with God.
And even fairy tales have some good teachings on how to live. G.K. Chesterton: “Fairy tales are more than true, not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.”
The fact is, there’s absolutely no real proof that “Moses” ever existed, at all, as a single person, but MAY be a compilation of real characters. There is NO record in Egypt, avid record keepers, of any of the plagues in the bible, or the loss of “Pharaoh’s Army” in the sea, or in any battle that could relate to the bible story, which was maintained only by the Hebrews.
Even the bible story actually says that a prostitute betrayed her people in Jericho and they were wiped out by a psychopath named Joshua.
Those who can accept the messages, rather than the myths, of the bible, may be on to something of value. Any who take it literally are, well, literally crazy. This is especially evident as they’re the ones most likely to start wars and kill their neighbors, like Joshua, rather than learning to live in peace
All cultures have their myths. It just so happens that the jewish myths are stated in the old testament. Christians are told that its {bible} the word of God, so that makes it real. God has been laughing at the old testament ever since it was put into print, I believe. Christians need to wake up and laugh at the jewish myths as they do to all other myths. The bible is the word of man as he thinks God would put it. No man has ever known what God thinks, they believe what they think is what he wants. What happens if there is more than one God. Which one do we believe then. Old testament = jewish myth. We must stop blindly allowing Israel to do as they wish because we think they are Gods chosen people, another myth!!
And the history channel knows all of this because………?They do a lot better on more recent history, or better yet, “future” history, no one is going to argue with them on that.Their sources, half quotes and impressive repetition of debunked theories as “facts,” has proved once again that P.T. Barnum was right.
Sorry I posted too late for some of the posters who referred to Israelites/Hebrews as “Jews” to see. They were not “Jews”: The word “Jew” is derived from “Judah,” just one of the Israelite tribes. Judeans are not mentioned until the kingdom of Israel was split following King Solomon’s death
Don’t forget about the Great Raven and how he brought forth the land,the sun and all the peoples of the earth. There’s a great representation of this at YVR and on the back of the Cdn $20 bill.
I saw that program Bible Battles a few months ago. Great!The History Channel and H2 have some interesting shows.Thanks for reminding me to look up some more on this subject.
Mmmmhh. Nice one, although it sort of resembles earlier comics from Wiley. I remember one of Moses as a baby, failing to get wet in the tubby. And one of Noah, getting a hint to spice up his story.
chireef almost 13 years ago
maybe in effigy
paulproteus48640 almost 13 years ago
i heard it was a tsunami caused by caldera on the island of santorini
Ida No almost 13 years ago
It is true that all great stories are based on just a gran of truth. Usually, the weight of the enhancements has succeeded in vaporizing the grain into indiscernible particulate matter. But the original starting point was there, when the screenwriter showed up to kill it off.
palos almost 13 years ago
Was this Moses character in a play, movie, adaptation?
Bender_Sastre almost 13 years ago
Now, now, Richard, let’s not get into specific religion bashing. If you consider everything that the bible claims to have happened anciently, there’s nothing wholly unheard of that Mormons believe.
I swear Wiley’s done this publicist schtick about Moses before, but in another form. Could have been another biblical figure though; I’ll admit my memory’s a little fuzzy.
kittenpah almost 13 years ago
The Screen Writer is standing all to fortunately close to Moses’ staff. I foresee some devine retribution.
Varnes almost 13 years ago
I like the kid on top of the cart….
Varnes almost 13 years ago
Wonder where they got the door?
vwdualnomand almost 13 years ago
moses ran over some mud flats right before the tide came in.
jreckard almost 13 years ago
@Baslim – the miracle, then, must have been that the “host of Pharoah” drowned in this marsh.
freewaydog almost 13 years ago
Shouldn’t this be for Passover?
wolfhawke almost 13 years ago
This one is getting a little old. There was one about Moses writing memoirs earlier this year. Try picking on someone else, like Joshua or Elijah or Elisha.
Commentator almost 13 years ago
I knew it!
dolsonjr almost 13 years ago
Didn’t you do this a few years ago about the Ark??
wilb44 almost 13 years ago
and the forty years in the desert actually was a bad weekend in the Catskills. The burning bush was a tiki lamp. That’s Hollywood.
Nebulous Premium Member almost 13 years ago
And that was AFTER the Aaron told him that the lack of papyrus forced them to cut back the length of the Creation story from Billions and Billions of years to 7 days.(see “How it Happened” by Isaac Asimov)
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member almost 13 years ago
i checked out the comments expecting to see ww3. you guys are kinda tame today.
psychlady almost 13 years ago
It sure does need some punching up!!
Sandfan almost 13 years ago
I was sitting here composing a comment about how the screenwriter was already working on his next project, which had a working title of ‘Touched by God; The Sequel’ starring Jesus Christ, when my electricity quit. It was dark and cold for about 15 minutes, then power returned. I can take a hint, so my comment today is a wish for a happy New Year to one and all.
Packratjohn Premium Member almost 13 years ago
So, did Moses have a holy-ghost writer?
LingeeWhiz almost 13 years ago
Yup, so how does history channel explain all of Pharoah’s army getting drown in the same marsh that the Israelites just crossed over?
bransom almost 13 years ago
Nobody has mentioned the Flying Spaghetti Monster? You athiests think you’re smart by figuring out a logical explanation for stories that you claim never happened in the first place! Haha the joke’s on you you when you die, go to wherever, and find out the whole story! Why is it impossible to believe in a superior being that causes miracles – or whatever you want to call them – on Earth? You don’t know what happened, and you will never find out until the day after you die! Maybe not even then! Who knows? I don’t!
tigre1 almost 13 years ago
Look, Moses at the top of the hill, getting the tablets…please note that our entire civilization is based on a story with NO witnessess…right up to and including Revelation. Whooops…you mean God might NOT step in and save us?
That it’s ALL a very clever PR job?
That we should maybe rethink sitting around waiting for Him?
Guillotines on Wall Street, that’s the ticket. It’ll work for fifty years. Then they’ll repeal Glass-Steagal again…
hkyjckfjt almost 13 years ago
Woooeee! Pope Benny ain’t gonna like this one.
dfowensby almost 13 years ago
if i recall, there was a significant ww1 or 2 battle fought in the northern valleys, and won by the allies, as the general recalled one of Moses’ pincer-flanking victories there. it has been said that most of that section of the bible is a profound record of military cunning on his behalf.
Defective Premium Member almost 13 years ago
I like how Wiley draws the white fuzzy beards.
Varnes almost 13 years ago
If that many people wandered around the desert for forty years, there would still be a lot of evidence of it. Waste of all kinds would have been left behind, the trampling of fragile desert ecology, evidence of large crowds staying in one place for a while than moving on would be seen. You’d probably see evidence from orbit. That many people over that long of time would left a lot of artifacts…Archeologists haven’t found anything like that….
I’m open to a great Spirit or something. But for me, all dogma, from all religions is just plain silly and defies credulity and common sense. But, Each to their own taste", said the woman as she kissed a cow…..
Varnes almost 13 years ago
Go Packers! Gonna have kitty for lunch on Sunday…..
Potrzebie almost 13 years ago
The red sea was a metaphor or allegory. Exodus is based on the great exile.
treered almost 13 years ago
suez canal maybe? :)
bmonk almost 13 years ago
‘Like I have always thought; The Bible is claimed to be the “Word of God”. Well, how much of it was written by God? NONE!!!It’s a collection of fables, stories handed down from one generation to the next, letters, monographs, and other assorted drivel!’
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Actually, most of the Bible does not claim to be the Word of God. Offhand, I can think only of some of the prophets’ words that say, “Thus says the Lord.”
The Catholic Church claims that the Bible books were inspired by the Spirit, and recognized as telling God’s story by the Spirit-guided Church. In short, these books and texts tell, in the idiom of their authors and cultures, of the God we have experienced. And of our own history with God.
And even fairy tales have some good teachings on how to live. G.K. Chesterton: “Fairy tales are more than true, not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.”
Dtroutma almost 13 years ago
Wiley simply hits another home run!
The fact is, there’s absolutely no real proof that “Moses” ever existed, at all, as a single person, but MAY be a compilation of real characters. There is NO record in Egypt, avid record keepers, of any of the plagues in the bible, or the loss of “Pharaoh’s Army” in the sea, or in any battle that could relate to the bible story, which was maintained only by the Hebrews.
Even the bible story actually says that a prostitute betrayed her people in Jericho and they were wiped out by a psychopath named Joshua.
Those who can accept the messages, rather than the myths, of the bible, may be on to something of value. Any who take it literally are, well, literally crazy. This is especially evident as they’re the ones most likely to start wars and kill their neighbors, like Joshua, rather than learning to live in peace
Hunter7 almost 13 years ago
Gotta do the dry run, dress rehearsal before you head for the big stage.
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member almost 13 years ago
much better people. it picked up reeeeal good. after i left. : /
DavidGBA almost 13 years ago
Rye ergot mold might explain a lot!
Potrzebie almost 13 years ago
Floods are often used as allegories in literature. The man on the raft predates the bible as far back as Mesopatamian literature.
MelvinLott almost 13 years ago
Fiction?
macboost almost 13 years ago
All cultures have their myths. It just so happens that the jewish myths are stated in the old testament. Christians are told that its {bible} the word of God, so that makes it real. God has been laughing at the old testament ever since it was put into print, I believe. Christians need to wake up and laugh at the jewish myths as they do to all other myths. The bible is the word of man as he thinks God would put it. No man has ever known what God thinks, they believe what they think is what he wants. What happens if there is more than one God. Which one do we believe then. Old testament = jewish myth. We must stop blindly allowing Israel to do as they wish because we think they are Gods chosen people, another myth!!
chucktrent47 almost 13 years ago
And the history channel knows all of this because………?They do a lot better on more recent history, or better yet, “future” history, no one is going to argue with them on that.Their sources, half quotes and impressive repetition of debunked theories as “facts,” has proved once again that P.T. Barnum was right.
V-Beast almost 13 years ago
extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
arye uygur almost 13 years ago
Sorry I posted too late for some of the posters who referred to Israelites/Hebrews as “Jews” to see. They were not “Jews”: The word “Jew” is derived from “Judah,” just one of the Israelite tribes. Judeans are not mentioned until the kingdom of Israel was split following King Solomon’s death
Hunter7 almost 13 years ago
Don’t forget about the Great Raven and how he brought forth the land,the sun and all the peoples of the earth. There’s a great representation of this at YVR and on the back of the Cdn $20 bill.
rockngolfer almost 13 years ago
I saw that program Bible Battles a few months ago. Great!The History Channel and H2 have some interesting shows.Thanks for reminding me to look up some more on this subject.
bach45 almost 13 years ago
Mmmmhh. Nice one, although it sort of resembles earlier comics from Wiley. I remember one of Moses as a baby, failing to get wet in the tubby. And one of Noah, getting a hint to spice up his story.