Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for August 21, 2012

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    BE THIS GUY  over 12 years ago

    Joanie should of left Alex behind.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    If only her son Jeff had come along, then Gram’s day would be complete. π(Both her son Jeff and her granddaughter Alex can be obnoxious, though Jeff more so. I know she had a sort of mildly wild youth, but what did Joanie do to deserve this? Is there no justice? Should’t Trudeau be ashamed? Contrite? What gives?)

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    Dele of your “pickle” remark.πDon’t know the answer, RSR. But one of my lines, was also snatched away by GoComix software yesterday. But mine was given to another poster, Snoop somebody. Grrrr. Yours wasn’t given to somebody else, but still —. Ain’t no justice in this life!πIncidentally, shouldn’t “dillseksia” have been “dillsexia”? I don’t even know what “seksia” means. Wikipedia seems to think it’s a Finnish word for “sexual intercourse”? But I don’t know Finnish. (You must know it.)

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    mrbribery  over 12 years ago

    what is that thing in back of Alex?

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    Basqueian  over 12 years ago

    The political dynasties in this country remind me far too much of the Roman Republic, it’s political families and the segue into the Roman Empire. This mone talks game they play isn’t helping

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    All you Doonesbury historians out there: I have a question.πAlex’s father is Mike Doonesbury. Her mother is JJ, Mike’s first wife. JJ’s mother is Joanie Caucus, who is married to Jeff Redfern. (This makes Alex Joanie’s granddaughter.) Question: Who is JJ’s father?

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    gladlythecrosseyedbear  over 12 years ago

    GT worships Elizabeth Warren because she faked Cherokee blood and thus stole a Harvard professorship that ought to have gone to a true Cherokee. GT thinks phoniness is a great quality in politicians

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    It’s good to know Elizabeth Warren never faked Cherokee blood, since if she did, her campaign would be dead in the water by now. As it is, her claims have been born out by old stories within her family going way back. She may very well have Cherokee blood. πAnd GT’s integrity in supporting her shows his trustworthiness.πFinally, Dr. Warren earned her position at Harvard through hard work and good scholarship.πGo Liz!

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    38lowell  over 12 years ago

    To some folks, BOSTON IS DESTINY!However, if you’re gonna throw up, don’t wait until you get to Boston.

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    asa4ever  over 12 years ago

    Sorry i am a day late. Must be I go to bed too early or read this too early. From yesterday, I would never speed up to hit an infant. The only reason I would slow down so not to hit it is I do not want to go to prison. Most psychopaths are not serial killers and do not do great physical harm to people because of prison. We are more of a don’t care whether any particular person lives or dies or anything else about people as long as they leave us alone. Not leaving us alone IS another story.

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    Astolat  over 12 years ago

    @DTpiJoanie’s first husband, and JJ’s father, was Clinton Caucus. Joanie left him and went on a road trip with Mike D and Mark Slackmeyer, back in the Walden Commune days before the characters started aging. If you don’t have it, treat yourself to the 40 years of Doonesbury book; I only got into the strip a couple of years ago but that book has given me all the back story. Plus really good triceps from lifting it…

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    route66paul  over 12 years ago

    Dylan – the “thing” behind Alex is the seat back. And Bush I had 3 terms a pres, he was the puppet master(He learned how to to it as head of the CIA)

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    FriscoLou  over 12 years ago

    “I think I’m going to be sick.” It must be terrible being trapped in the car with a drama queen.

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    peabodyboy  over 12 years ago

    I hope Harvard doesn’t have a Cherokee quota, but anything is possible in the world of the ivory towers. But who is a true Cherokee? Who decides? Half of the people in North Carolina thinks they have some Cherokee ancesters. Are you going to track them all down and tell us the truth? Oh, by the way, when you do come up with the truth with a capital T, leave me off the mailing list, because, frankly my dear bear, I don’t give a #@$*&.

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    peabodyboy  over 12 years ago

    Bill Russell used to throw up before every big game. If it worked for Bill, it could work for Joanie.

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    randymi  over 12 years ago

    Alex is being her usual drama queen self. Figures.

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    Only a sinner saved by grace  over 12 years ago

    Which might be the only thing you can say in his favor.

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    The#1BoiseStateFan  over 12 years ago

    @ mr bribery and DylanThomas: It kind of a mountain, but in panel 3, it shows that it’s curved, which I’m guessing that’s an inactive volcano.

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    peabodyboy  over 12 years ago

    Actually, Romney isn’t qualified to be president, because in my interpretation of the Constitution, a Mormon can’t be president. In fact, I find that everyone in the country, except me, is disqualified for some reason. So, by default, that makes me the once and future president. Sorry, just typing the truth, you second class citizens.

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    magicwalnut  over 12 years ago

    Apropos the conversation yesterday in regard to how to treat trolls—basic psych 101 teaches us that the best way to extinguish a behavior is to ignore it. It takes some time, but it works.

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    corzak  over 12 years ago

    Clinton, JJ’s dad:http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1972/09/27

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    montessoriteacher  over 12 years ago

    I have noticed many errors online in comment sections. I tend to ignore them since I consider this a rather informal place for people to express their thoughts. The level of writing in places like this are almost like your grocery list. As long as you get the point across in terms of meaning, you have met your goal.I tend to make the typing mistake of leaving out a word as I try to type too fast and forget to double check before posting and they don’t allow editing until it has been posted unless you just want to delete the whole thing.

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    peabodyboy  over 12 years ago

    Well, your personal private interpretation of the Constitution is just your opinion, man. But when you say that I’m a Democrat, then you are completely wrong. I see no real difference between Obama and Romney, and if you think that the Corrupt Party label doesn’t apply to both parties, you are wrong. You are also wrong if you think that I want to silence you. I do want to laugh at you, not only for your Constitutional conceits, but for your naive belief that the Mitt Romney wing of the Republican party is on your side. If Mitt does win, he’ll break your little heart.

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    montessoriteacher  over 12 years ago

    I am wondering what will happen to Congressman Caveman Akin today. He is now only one percentage point ahead of Claire. Yesterday, I heard that he had until 5 pm today to make up his mind about staying on the ballot. Today, I heard that he may have longer than that, it would just have to involve a judge to take him off the ballot if he waits too much longer than that. Meanwhile, Claire McCaskill really wants him to stay on the ballot… It makes it tougher for people if they wait too long to have their name on the ballot obviously as well, or there is the complication of having to have a write in situation if there are millions of ballots already printed. I hope some liberals can begin to understand how difficult this situation is in Missouri for Claire after all this has happened and she still isn’t in the lead, though this just happened on Sunday, so we shall see…

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    Defective Premium Member over 12 years ago

    Of all the characters in the strip, the evil, vile despicable tyrannts, and good for nothing politicians that appear here, Alex is really my least favorite. I like her sometimes, but mostly, I just wish she would shut up. And I really wish someone would tell her to do so.

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    peabodyboy  over 12 years ago

    Yeah, I have a lot of problems. Maybe one is not understanding the deep nuances of the two main political parties’ babble, when I see them both dancing to the tune of their corporate lords and masters. I also have a small problem with you using the Guard SGT name while claiming that Obama is not the real commander in chief. Even if you’re right, you are not the competent authority to decide. You’re acting way above your pay grade, mister. I wouldn’t have a problem if you’d use another name. To me, your conduct is a lot like wearing your uniform to a partisan political rally. I’m not sure whether it violates the UCMJ, but it’s tacky.

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    RayThomas101  over 12 years ago

    He’s WAY better. So’s Bugs Bunny.

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    APlofker Premium Member over 12 years ago

    Just realized, Alex isn’t wearing a seatbelt! Maybe she’ll meet her end sooner than we think.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    When “of” = “have”. πYes, language is malleable, loose, slippery, and “like a river” (Heraclitus), and “have” may well evolve into “of” (in cases of “could have” = “could of”, etc.).πBTW, love that “handle” LightBuzzYears, a play on Buzz Lightyear: “2 ∞ & beyoooond!”

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    explorer543  over 12 years ago

    @dinkytownxyour naive belief that the Mitt Romney wing of the Republican party is on your side. If Mitt does win, he’ll break your little heart.xWell said, Dinkytown, a chilling forecast, wasted on that recipient. But let’s hope enough independent voters and more habitual non-voters will recognize the danger and do the right thing.

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    CaptXpendable  over 12 years ago

    Dial it back? Does Alex even have a dial that goes “back”?

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    Let’s see now . . . . Troll no. 1 sadly…bear: check. Troll no. 2 Sarge: check. Hey, where’s Troll no. 3 Sammysock? Sniffin’ dogz?

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    explorer543  over 12 years ago

    @dinkytown: you write "your naive belief that the Mitt Romney wing of the Republican party is on your side. If Mitt does win, he’ll break your little heart.xWell said, dinkytown, wasted on that recipient (but you knew that). Let’s hope that enough independent voters and habitual non-voters realize the looming dangers and decide to do the right thing.

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    explorer543  over 12 years ago

    Sorry folks, I thought my (first) comment didn’t register, so I tried to recreate it. .

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    watmiwori  over 12 years ago

    Even Mark Twain and Ambrose Bierce — who shouldboth know better if anybody does — write ‘hung’ whenthey mean ‘hanged’ Of course the hangee may alsohave been hung, but that’s a kettle of fish of adifferent colour….

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    ronpolimeni  over 12 years ago

    Thank you DT and explorer543. Good grammar is important despite what some folks my think.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    “… don’t bother to explain, I won’t be back today.”πExplanation (not for you, but for those occasional lurkers whose interest you piqued): The “significance between this story arc and recent events” is:πElizabeth Warren is running in Massachusetts in order to unseat Cosmo-centerfold Scott Brown from TeddyBare Kennedy’s historic Senate seat. Pol-lefty Gram Joanie is volunteering to help Liz. And Alex is volunteering her, um, assistance.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    “… trolls are spreading (like cancer) ….”πThey ingest reich-wing “talking points” on the I-net and then re-barf them on the I-net.

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    Coyoty Premium Member over 12 years ago

    Deny it all you want, Obama is still the president. Reality is what stays around no matter how much you try to disbelieve it, and that’s reality. Live with it.

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    FriscoLou  over 12 years ago

    One possible workaround to the edit button is to copy your comments before you post them. So if you want to edit a comment you can paste it into the text box then delete the original and resubmit the edited comment, that way it’s like snatching a white tablecloth from underneath a fully set table without spilling a drop of white wine. And don’t forget to recopy your edited comment.

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    George Alexander  over 12 years ago

    DT3.14159: One doesn’t ‘ignore cancers." Rather,one starves them. But if you must respond, do so as if you’re trying to deflect a 2 year old or a psycho in the looney ward.

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    Alex “understands”, and loves Leo, good enough for me. Warren actually understands the Constitution, and what this nation stands for, vs Brown, the centerfold for “Idiot’s Digest”, good enough for me.

    Trudeau has for decades made thinking Americans think, and those incapable of a complete thought, freak out. Good enough for me. (BTW, “conservatives”, especially authoritarian ones like Akin, Ryan, Cheney etc, who aren’t capable of accepting any facts that disagree with their preconceived notions aren’t ALWAYS “evil”, just dangerous. Okay, Cheney IS evil AND dangerous, still..)

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    BE THIS GUY  over 12 years ago

    I have no idea what purple thing behind Alex is. I do know that there are no mountains on I-95 between DC and Boston.

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    cezpaige  over 12 years ago

    I could definitely see Elizabeth Warren as the President of the United States. Oh, how good that would be. You heard it here first.

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    montessoriteacher  over 12 years ago

    I am glad to see that some actually are supporting Akin. I want Claire to be able to run against him. Ted Kennedy had a car accident. So did Laura Bush when she blew through a stop sign many years ago, yet I don’t recall anyone accusing her of murder. The Akin/Ryan bill would ruin many women’s lives if allowed to pass. Akin/Ryan believe that only some women are “legitimately” raped. The caveman term is well deserved.

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    montessoriteacher  over 12 years ago

    Yes, Laura Bush blew through a stop sign many years ago and someone was killed. Most people probably don’t know this since Democrats don’t choose to harp about it constantly in the way Republicans have about Ted Kennedy’s accident many years ago. I am not saying that we should accuse Laura Bush of murder, but you must be since you are saying that Ted Kennedy killed someone in a car accident many years ago.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    “Ted Kennedy … actually did kill someone.”πPsssst: Don’t morph into a troll before our very eyes by mis-representing dead people — who cannot defend themselves — with whom you politically disagree. πJust in case you really don’t know and are only re-barfing a reich-wing “talking point”, here’s a tutorial:π The “killing” was not, as you seem to imply, murder. It was an accident. Unpremeditated. Got that? If not, look it up, write it down, and remember it

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    Dtroutma  over 12 years ago

    Yes, REMF is a fake, and liar, but also a dittohead, and Rush repeater, wait, that’s all redundant.

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    montessoriteacher  over 12 years ago

    Yes, Ted Kennedy had a car accident and someone died as a result. He also became one of our greatest members of the US Senate. Laura Bush also had a car accident and someone was tragically killed. Of course, it was properly considered an accident, even though she failed to yield at a stop sign, which is breaking the law, as we all know. After this terrible mistake, laura married George Bush and later became the First Lady of the US. The terrible accident, in which she was at fault, was not and should not be considered the defining moment of her life and this is my belief even though I never once voted for her husband. At the same time, I believe that the memory and legacy of Ted Kennedy should not be defined by one tragic accident in which he was involved.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    I wonder if the National Guard ever prosecutes a non-veteran who impersonates a veteran. Impersonating a police detective in civilian clothing is as much a crime as impersonating a uniformed police officer. Even online. But what about misrepresenting one’s self as a former member of the National Guard or other armed service?

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    Barack Obama, while disappointing me as a would-be liberal, may be as good a President as can be expected. Judging by the public opinion polls, the jury is still out.πOTOH, still judging by the opinion polls, the Bush II presidency was a disaster from which this great nation may never fully recover.πHear it from “The Boss” Bruce Springsteen:πNow main streets whitewashed windows and vacant storesSeems like there aint nobody wants to come down here no moreThey’re closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracksForeman says these jobs are going boys and they ain’t coming back toYour hometown, your hometown, your hometown, your hometown.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    “Ted Kennedy killed a woman and did not feel that the incident was worth reporting.”πMost of the reporting surrounding the death of Mary Jo Kopechne is inaccurate nonsense masquerading as the truth. The idea that “Ted Kennedy killed a woman and did not feel that the incident was worth reporting” has never been established.

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    Gokie5  over 12 years ago

    “So yesterday I threw in a fairly early opening line about pickles. . .”Thanks for today’s comment, Richard. Yesterday I came in a little late, and couldn’t for the life of me figure out where the pickle and deli and pun stuff was coming from. I kept reading Joanie’s comments for a clue, and drawing a blank.

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    Spaghettus1  over 12 years ago

    Yes, thanks for clearing that up. I got here late and missed it, too. Too bad; it’s a topic I would have relished.

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    montessoriteacher  over 12 years ago

    I think we will have to agree to disagree on some things when it comes to some of the posters here. I am aware that some do not appreciate Ted Kennedy, although others do admire him very much. It is sad that some feel the need to bring up the reputation of a man who is no longer with us in order to defend the actions of someone in this day and age. Nothing like living in the present. Akin is among us right now and we can’t ignore him, unfortunately. As a woman, I would love to pretend that the likes of Akin and Ryan do not exist. However, I would do so at my peril. I enjoy having the freedom to live as I choose, not as others would have me to live.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    Chappaquiddick:πHere’s what Wikipedia has to say:πA week after the incident, Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury. He received a two-month suspended sentence.8 On a national television broadcast that night, Kennedy said that he had not been driving “under the influence of liquor” nor had he ever had a “private relationship” with Kopechne.15 The Chappaquiddick incident and Kopechne’s death became the topic of at least fifteen books, as well as a fictionalized treatment by Joyce Carol Oates. Questions remained about Kennedy’s timeline of events that night, specifically his actions following the incident.16 The quality of the investigation has been scrutinized, particularly whether official deference was given to a powerful and influential politician, and his family.16 The events surrounding Kopechne’s death damaged Kennedy’s reputation and are regarded as a major reason that he was never able to mount a successful campaign for President of the United States.17 Kennedy expressed remorse over his role in her death, in his posthumously-published memoir, True Compass.18πThe bracketed numbers refer to footnotes that in turn refer to sources. Google “Mary Jo Kopechne” crossed with “Wikipedia” to bring this up.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    “Is Gram the next Axelrod? Only the leaders of the libs knows.”πThe leaders of the serves should be so lucky.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    Symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia from Mayo Clinic:π• Auditory hallucinations, such as hearing voices• Delusions, such as believing a co-worker wants to poison you• Anxiety• Anger• Emotional distance• Violence• Argumentativeness• Self-important or condescending manner• Suicidal thoughts and behaviorπNow infuse these into a sociopath (no empathy) and you’ve got one potent witch’s brew.πBottoms up!

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    bluezcafe  over 12 years ago

    classic Trudeau…’bout time Alex takes afta dear old Dad.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    If “Sarge” has deceived himself about his own lack of U.S. military armed service, then he has also deceived himself about NBC and elected Obama, NBC and elected Gore, and NBC but Unelected Usurper Bush II. (NBC = natural born citizen.)

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    Here’s the way I understand this: “Sociopath” is the older term that has been replaced in the professional literature (such as the DSM-IV). The newer term is “antisocial personality disorder” (APD). Both the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and the American Psychological Association (also APA, unfortunately) have approved the change. πHowever, the older term (“sociopath”) continues to linger in the media and public at large, and therefore also among many practicing therapists. They feel they have to continue to use the older term in therapy in order to more effectively to communicate with their patients, many of whom are unaware of the change to the newer term (APD).πBoth terms mean exactly the same thing,except for this caveat: Ongoing research has updated slightly the meaning of the newer term.πAnybody can learn more about this by googling the two APA websites and then searching inside them for public information.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  over 12 years ago

    “Thine own mouth condemneth thee, and not I: yea, thine own lips testify against thee.” — Job 15:6, King James Bible

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    Linguist  over 12 years ago

    That is what I type here, the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How many times have we heard this ? Methinks the lady doth protest too much !

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