“and then there are those when I disagree with her…:) :)”^I hear that…. that’s why I tried to “keep” the “lighter fluid”, the sparklers, anything that could go boom or burn in a safe place (which is somewhere out of her hands, ha ha!!!)
Still, though, that’s the challenge that people face… it’s the two-sided coin… on the one hand, people can change… but those affected will surely doubt any semblance of that change…..==People can try to move on…. but at what point can they keep showing how they’ve changed, until it can be fully established that they’ve changed?……The question is, who must be satisfied, before one can confirm that a criminal is changed?…..
I only remember one incident where Dirk actually exhibited what I’d call criminal behavior, and that was when he “found” some money in Mrs. Baird’s clock and slipped it into his pocket. In the aftermath of that confrontation, he tried to break Brad’s phone, but then Brad revealed that he’d actually “appropriated” Dirk’s phone, so the phone Dirk broke turned out to be his own.
But wait — how does Brad’s stealthily moving Dirk’s phone into his pocket make him morally superior to Dirk, who stealthily moved money from Mrs. Baird’s clock into his pocket?
Aside from that, Dirk is — or was, at least — “a control freak with anger management issues”, sure. I’d like to see some supporting evidence for calling him a “drug-dealing thug”, though.
Even his controlling behavior was pretty much all directed at Toni, and she wasn’t exactly an unwilling participant back then. She still has, I don’t know, “serf issues”, for lack of a better term. Look at the way she lets Shannon treat her.
Have we ever seen Derrick and Dirk together? I’m just sayin’…
But seriously, @IamJayBluE, I hope Toni is growing out of that state, and I do think she understands that Brad will be a much more healthy partner for her. Toni has problems, but the evidence seems to suggest that she knows what they are and how to work on them. My point above was only that Original Dirk wasn’t quite the monster he was being described as.
As long as You’re up on Quillian’s Shoulders, take Your Hands and CLAP both of His ears at the SAME time in CELEBRATION, so He can, (A-hem) “HEAR – FREEDOM – RING!”
Greg has the time in to consider “end game”Perhaps Luann spends her Senior year as an exchange in Oz. An Auzzie wedding with all cast members in about 15 months with Toni and Brads first child making Shannon a Big Sister would be a great ending. TJ could cater.
Oh!! I’ve joined the ranks of those who had their comment removed. Also 2 of the 3 responses were removed also. HMMM Wonder if I hit too close to the truth about Luann approaching the end of it’s run due the main characters issues being resolved and Greg’s legacy in Luann Again?
“go back in stages …. pick as early a date as possible in the calendar, go there, then repeat ..”
Ah… Thanks! It would seem you also have to “repeat in reverse” to get back to the present. Ah well.
As to the subject matter (and to the OP’s point), I suspect it’s Gunth buggin’ out because it was unexpected. And I don’t think Lu meant any romance in it.
This from the Facebook page:==“An Epic Fireworks Story – by Karen” is a new blog from Karen Evans about a hair raising July 4th incident years ago. Funny, scary, thrilling… almost as good as a Roman Candle.www.thecartooniststudio.com/greg
t"hat ‘product’ wasn’t doilies from the Ladies Knitting Circle."^Check Mikey J’s posts… especially in reference to Derek vs. Dirk…. it may help sort things out….
Especially the strips…. In effect, you were remembering right, but the drug elements were from “Derek the Druggist” and not “Dirk the Jerk”, though he has had his “law troubles”, just not drug related…..
And it seems like Greg intended to “write him out altogether”, with that last bit of encounter at the store, as a way for Toni to get closure, and for both to finally move on…. but some have brought up the question of “would Toni feel the need to invite him, for whatever reason, to the wedding?” I think that he’s “gone, daddy, gone”, with no need to even think about him anymore, but it doesn’t seem too far gone to think that there would be one last moment or two, at least for story’s sake…..
" have never read that other strip"^I can only guess that you’re talking about “Luann again”, maybe as the “other strip”? If so, it really isn’t another strip, it’s the same “Luann”, this is just the way that Greg drew the characters at that time, in ‘85… and it is more like just the “re-running”…. so there wouldn’t have been another strip to read, it’s just labeled that way to help people catch up on and see the progress since Luann first started…
“Do not think I’m confusing Derek & Dirk as I have never read that other strip”^Well, other than the time he has assaulted Brad, or had restraining orders put on him, he hasn’t had those other legal troubles……
@Mikeyjsorry, but for me too it opens to a site login, not the pic. You owe him/her an apology.
When I click on the picture it takes me to the log in page of an image hosting site. I assume it is the site MikeyJ uses for his photo manipulations.
Pirard was very rude to MikeyJ to assume he was spamming. I would not feel the need to apologize to someone who was so rude to me. He could have just pointed out that the link wasn’t working properly.
Why is it so much easier for people to be rude when they could be helpful and kind to each other?
“some of mine in response to you were gone, too, "^I can be a third witness…. it was crazy, because I also saw the posts…. and then checked and they were suddenly gone…..
“I am comparing the passion Luann used in each kiss. Compare the energy she put in the one I referenced to the little peck she gives today.”
I’d argue that it is often the “little peck” that has more passion! Muscle control! Like the old song says… “it’s in his/her kiss….”
I take what she did with Gunther as a reaction to just having been rescued by him when both where in some danger. I’m amazed she didn’t take Gunther’s face off. This Quill peck is much more subtle and reflects that kind of passion.
There’s all kinds of kiss manuvers…. the one in today’s strip could look like just a peck, but there’s also the “lip rest”… where two lips touch and stay in a “holding pattern”…no moving, just a “lip hug”, or a “lip embrace”, if you will…. the long lasting “frozen in time moment” kind of kiss….so they could also possibly be engaged in that one…..
Why are you bringing up Dirk? Am I missing something?Besides, he explained all about his reformation to Toni when she saw him. He’s the one who caused he to want to get married to Brad!
Definitely am not trying to be paranoid, but in terms of explaining my theory on why it might have happened, to be honest, I’d have to use the novel “1984”: =Any attachment in conversing about the thread could be tied with that, so they did not discriminate, and tried to “clean up” Reed’s, and since you replied, it would look “out of place” without Reed’s…so the subsequent elimination of yours, to “clean up” things, so to speak…. even though you didn’t speak of it ending.. just replying…. and since Lev’s wasn’t until later, his remained….that’s the only explanation I can come up with, at the moment…..
I vass seenking zey put Kommandant Klink or General Burkhalter in charge today az zee regular guy vass off. :)^Yeaaaahhhh….. sounds better….let’s go with that, instead…..
Here’s another “useless fact”. Werner Kempler, Colonel Klink, said that he really tried to play the character in such a buffoonish way, because as a Jewish descendant, he really wanted to do his part to “sillify”, so to speak, he German army on the show….
TiffWHO over 11 years ago
Be even more when Frank or Nancy turn around.
JayBluE over 11 years ago
Didn’t know there was a firework called a “kisser”….
DaJellyBelly over 11 years ago
Very witty Shannon, very witty indeed!
WoodEye over 11 years ago
Shannon knows fireworks when she sees them!
DaJellyBelly over 11 years ago
Happy Independence Day to everyone!
margueritem over 11 years ago
Shannon my be a little ‘pain’, but I like her.
JayBluE over 11 years ago
“That is part of the ignition process for the fireworks.”^So that’s why my wife keeps saying she likes fireworks…..lol!!!
JayBluE over 11 years ago
“and then there are those when I disagree with her…:) :)”^I hear that…. that’s why I tried to “keep” the “lighter fluid”, the sparklers, anything that could go boom or burn in a safe place (which is somewhere out of her hands, ha ha!!!)
ILuvLu over 11 years ago
I see five people in this strip who have all grown up a little!
JayBluE over 11 years ago
And Amazon…. and Facebook…. oy…. ha ha!!!
ILuvLu over 11 years ago
You are forgetting weddings, kids (AKA grandkids), and all the trials and tribulations of young marrieds.
JayBluE over 11 years ago
By your logic, you would have to include “sons and daughters” to that… so…. that makes “everyone” a criminal….
firedome over 11 years ago
how cute…Shannon’s on Quill’s shoulders.
JayBluE over 11 years ago
Oh… you didn’t say him by name, specifically… sorry about that…. Almost forgot about Dirk, there…..
JayBluE over 11 years ago
Still, though, that’s the challenge that people face… it’s the two-sided coin… on the one hand, people can change… but those affected will surely doubt any semblance of that change…..==People can try to move on…. but at what point can they keep showing how they’ve changed, until it can be fully established that they’ve changed?……The question is, who must be satisfied, before one can confirm that a criminal is changed?…..
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
YUK! I don’t want to see that!!! Get a room, you two; what kind of example is that for Shannon???
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
In Japanese, fireworks are called “hanabi”, “Beautiful flowers”!
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
What the hell was that? Your post has NOTHING to do with the strip.^^So what? As long as it’s clean, why do you care what is posted?
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
New Av, click thumbnail for a close-upVV
Make Mine Marvel over 11 years ago
I only remember one incident where Dirk actually exhibited what I’d call criminal behavior, and that was when he “found” some money in Mrs. Baird’s clock and slipped it into his pocket. In the aftermath of that confrontation, he tried to break Brad’s phone, but then Brad revealed that he’d actually “appropriated” Dirk’s phone, so the phone Dirk broke turned out to be his own.
But wait — how does Brad’s stealthily moving Dirk’s phone into his pocket make him morally superior to Dirk, who stealthily moved money from Mrs. Baird’s clock into his pocket?
Aside from that, Dirk is — or was, at least — “a control freak with anger management issues”, sure. I’d like to see some supporting evidence for calling him a “drug-dealing thug”, though.
Even his controlling behavior was pretty much all directed at Toni, and she wasn’t exactly an unwilling participant back then. She still has, I don’t know, “serf issues”, for lack of a better term. Look at the way she lets Shannon treat her.
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
Hanabi” sounds a bit like “honeybee”, so beautiful flowers are perfectly apropos.^^I suppose it does…. btw Hanna= flowers Bi/Mi= Beautiful
Make Mine Marvel over 11 years ago
Have we ever seen Derrick and Dirk together? I’m just sayin’…
But seriously, @IamJayBluE, I hope Toni is growing out of that state, and I do think she understands that Brad will be a much more healthy partner for her. Toni has problems, but the evidence seems to suggest that she knows what they are and how to work on them. My point above was only that Original Dirk wasn’t quite the monster he was being described as.
Make Mine Marvel over 11 years ago
And speaking of Dirk, Mike Nesmith wants his hat back.
TheSkulker over 11 years ago
You must have a really small mind if you can’t see any connection. It is quite obvious.
lippyfish over 11 years ago
very cool the fireworks reflected in Frank’s glasses.
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
Dirk the Jerk, vs Derek the drug pusher:
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Mikeyj over 11 years ago
They do look as if they could be related
angeldscoobydoo Premium Member over 11 years ago
Those aren’t the fireworks Nancy was asking you about, Shannon. :)
sbchamp over 11 years ago
Ooh Aah!
Mordock999 Premium Member over 11 years ago
Hey Shannon?
As long as You’re up on Quillian’s Shoulders, take Your Hands and CLAP both of His ears at the SAME time in CELEBRATION, so He can, (A-hem) “HEAR – FREEDOM – RING!”
Awwwwwwww, I was Just KIDDING, Folks.
HAPPY HOLIDAY, All!!!!
TORAD_07 over 11 years ago
Happy 4th Y’all! May it be safe, and as enjoyable as it seems to be for Lu/Quill ;-)))) And Shannon, apparently!
jimshari over 11 years ago
@ reedkomicks. And what about Tiffany? And the others unattached in the strip?
RobinHood2013 over 11 years ago
… WRONG FIREWORKS!!!
blackielawless over 11 years ago
awwwww…kissing in front of fireworks sure is romantic!happy 4th of july!
Right Tackle over 11 years ago
Greg has the time in to consider “end game”Perhaps Luann spends her Senior year as an exchange in Oz. An Auzzie wedding with all cast members in about 15 months with Toni and Brads first child making Shannon a Big Sister would be a great ending. TJ could cater.
gkid over 11 years ago
So Greg is stepping down?
h2owithlemon over 11 years ago
In Australia their summer is in January.
Bandera_Ken over 11 years ago
I don’t think it’s ending. I think he is retiring and Luann will be going to college.
Hoodude over 11 years ago
Growth…
BigBubbie over 11 years ago
Why is Frank wearing dark glasses in the second panel when it is after dark? He is missing out on the fireworks and all the bright lights and colors!
TORAD_07 over 11 years ago
“That little smooch is not fireworks. If you want to see a kiss that is, check out 08-23-01.”
How can one go back that far, since it seems this site only goes back 10yrs to 2003? Is there another archive somewhere else?
locake over 11 years ago
The whole family is so cute. Quill fits right in.
reedkomicks Premium Member over 11 years ago
Oh!! I’ve joined the ranks of those who had their comment removed. Also 2 of the 3 responses were removed also. HMMM Wonder if I hit too close to the truth about Luann approaching the end of it’s run due the main characters issues being resolved and Greg’s legacy in Luann Again?
Dconskjk over 11 years ago
Happy 4th of July!
TORAD_07 over 11 years ago
“go back in stages …. pick as early a date as possible in the calendar, go there, then repeat ..”
Ah… Thanks! It would seem you also have to “repeat in reverse” to get back to the present. Ah well.
As to the subject matter (and to the OP’s point), I suspect it’s Gunth buggin’ out because it was unexpected. And I don’t think Lu meant any romance in it.
She does, with Quill.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member over 11 years ago
Awesome first panel!
ReneTray over 11 years ago
Do you wish to give up the right to remain silent? “Brad ?”“I’m thinking it over.”
JayBluE over 11 years ago
This from the Facebook page:==“An Epic Fireworks Story – by Karen” is a new blog from Karen Evans about a hair raising July 4th incident years ago. Funny, scary, thrilling… almost as good as a Roman Candle.www.thecartooniststudio.com/greg
Mikeyj over 11 years ago
When I click on it, it opens the pic, troll much?
JayBluE over 11 years ago
t"hat ‘product’ wasn’t doilies from the Ladies Knitting Circle."^Check Mikey J’s posts… especially in reference to Derek vs. Dirk…. it may help sort things out….
JayBluE over 11 years ago
Especially the strips…. In effect, you were remembering right, but the drug elements were from “Derek the Druggist” and not “Dirk the Jerk”, though he has had his “law troubles”, just not drug related…..
JayBluE over 11 years ago
And it seems like Greg intended to “write him out altogether”, with that last bit of encounter at the store, as a way for Toni to get closure, and for both to finally move on…. but some have brought up the question of “would Toni feel the need to invite him, for whatever reason, to the wedding?” I think that he’s “gone, daddy, gone”, with no need to even think about him anymore, but it doesn’t seem too far gone to think that there would be one last moment or two, at least for story’s sake…..
transylvanian over 11 years ago
Go on, Quill. Slip ‘er a bit o’ the tongue. :)
JayBluE over 11 years ago
" have never read that other strip"^I can only guess that you’re talking about “Luann again”, maybe as the “other strip”? If so, it really isn’t another strip, it’s the same “Luann”, this is just the way that Greg drew the characters at that time, in ‘85… and it is more like just the “re-running”…. so there wouldn’t have been another strip to read, it’s just labeled that way to help people catch up on and see the progress since Luann first started…
JayBluE over 11 years ago
“Do not think I’m confusing Derek & Dirk as I have never read that other strip”^Well, other than the time he has assaulted Brad, or had restraining orders put on him, he hasn’t had those other legal troubles……
wiatr over 11 years ago
I like that you can see the fireworks reflected in Dad’s glasses.
lynnskay over 11 years ago
@Mikeyjsorry, but for me too it opens to a site login, not the pic. You owe him/her an apology.
When I click on the picture it takes me to the log in page of an image hosting site. I assume it is the site MikeyJ uses for his photo manipulations.
Pirard was very rude to MikeyJ to assume he was spamming. I would not feel the need to apologize to someone who was so rude to me. He could have just pointed out that the link wasn’t working properly.
Why is it so much easier for people to be rude when they could be helpful and kind to each other?
JayBluE over 11 years ago
“some of mine in response to you were gone, too, "^I can be a third witness…. it was crazy, because I also saw the posts…. and then checked and they were suddenly gone…..
JayBluE over 11 years ago
“didn’t start to read ‘Luann’ until Greg changed his style… and still don’t recall our paper carrying the ‘old’ Luann.”^Understood…
TORAD_07 over 11 years ago
“I am comparing the passion Luann used in each kiss. Compare the energy she put in the one I referenced to the little peck she gives today.”
I’d argue that it is often the “little peck” that has more passion! Muscle control! Like the old song says… “it’s in his/her kiss….”
I take what she did with Gunther as a reaction to just having been rescued by him when both where in some danger. I’m amazed she didn’t take Gunther’s face off. This Quill peck is much more subtle and reflects that kind of passion.
“Shoop…Shoop… that’s where it is…”;-)
Sisyphos over 11 years ago
Nice 4th of July celebration, kids! Keep the fireworks coming!
JayBluE over 11 years ago
There’s all kinds of kiss manuvers…. the one in today’s strip could look like just a peck, but there’s also the “lip rest”… where two lips touch and stay in a “holding pattern”…no moving, just a “lip hug”, or a “lip embrace”, if you will…. the long lasting “frozen in time moment” kind of kiss….so they could also possibly be engaged in that one…..
twinsoniclab over 11 years ago
Why are you bringing up Dirk? Am I missing something?Besides, he explained all about his reformation to Toni when she saw him. He’s the one who caused he to want to get married to Brad!
JayBluE over 11 years ago
Definitely am not trying to be paranoid, but in terms of explaining my theory on why it might have happened, to be honest, I’d have to use the novel “1984”: =Any attachment in conversing about the thread could be tied with that, so they did not discriminate, and tried to “clean up” Reed’s, and since you replied, it would look “out of place” without Reed’s…so the subsequent elimination of yours, to “clean up” things, so to speak…. even though you didn’t speak of it ending.. just replying…. and since Lev’s wasn’t until later, his remained….that’s the only explanation I can come up with, at the moment…..
JayBluE over 11 years ago
“Inspector de Groote. Hmmm.”^Three words to describe it: C….I…..A……(XD)….. hooo, boy!!!! (Guess that heat has seeped east… lol!!! )
JayBluE over 11 years ago
I vass seenking zey put Kommandant Klink or General Burkhalter in charge today az zee regular guy vass off. :)^Yeaaaahhhh….. sounds better….let’s go with that, instead…..
Doctor11 over 11 years ago
Different type of fireworks, kid.
JayBluE over 11 years ago
Here’s another “useless fact”. Werner Kempler, Colonel Klink, said that he really tried to play the character in such a buffoonish way, because as a Jewish descendant, he really wanted to do his part to “sillify”, so to speak, he German army on the show….
PMark over 11 years ago
What child Shannon’s age would ignore fireworks for the mushy stuff between Quill and Luann?
seanyj over 11 years ago
Quill, Luann! Not in front of the little girl!
Skywatcher68 over 11 years ago
Nice touch with Frank’s reflective glasses!
JayBluE over 11 years ago
Thanks!
lindz.coop Premium Member over 11 years ago
Nice to see Luann with a boyfriend who likes her for a change.
JayBluE over 11 years ago
then you can turn out the lights… ha ha!!