The plan: The few richest elites who already have the most want the middle class to WORK HARDER for LESS MONEY on which we pay a HIGHER TAX RATE, so they can WORK LESS (or not at all) for MORE MONEY on which they pay a LOWER TAX RATE (or none at all through loopholes, deductions, exemptions, exclusions, shelters, corporate welfare, Cayman Islands tax havens or just eliminating taxes on investment gains).The real CLASS WARFARE is really all about the corporate feudal CONservative plan for REDISTRIBUTING middle class wealth from working people to the few richest elites.
The problem: How do the few richest elites sell that to the workers, since there are more of us than there are of them.
Someone on that board came up with an idea, invented a gadget, patented it (which ain’t cheap), arranged financing, produced the product (which involves a thousand headaches), marketed it, etc. etc. With rare exceptions that required thousands of hours of labor before they ever saw a dime of profit. Then they hired employees who work 8 hours and go home complaining that they do all the work while the bosses get all the money.
“The creatures outside looked from Corporatism to Socialism, and from Socialism to Corporatism, and from Corporatism to Socialism again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” (Apologies to George Orwell)
Socializing the costs, and privatizing the profits; that’s the state of today’s current push for Globalism.
Class warfare is a thing. That is where revolutions come from. A social reset. However, it often seems as though the ‘leaders’ of the revolutions become the new ‘rich’ and the cycle starts again.
Such a great source of debatable material here. Am so happy to be able to read/contribute occasionally. I try to understand peoples positions based on comments.And I try to form my opinions on what is presently in effect and what (idealistically) needs to happen.Our founding fathers were correct in the assumption that government and religion must be separate. The selfish must be regulated. Logic tempered by compassionate, educated wisdom must determine legislation. Legislators must be true representatives of their constituency which means verifiably fair voting with 100% participation. Campaigning procedures must be free of financial influence with multiple mandatory prime-time debates. Everything, EVERYTHING must be open to change. Geo. Bernard Shaw said “Progress is impossible without change”. Even though I have seen distinct good/bad personalities in animals, humans must rise above base animal instincts. Those that continue to act like feral animals must be treated like feral animals.I always like to invoke C.S. Lewis’ terrific argument in Mere Christianity that, on average, a rational individual will know right from wrong even with no religious influence.But lets keep up the discussion. Thanks, Wiley !!!!
This discussion takes on the aspects of the Ouroboros* and thus will stretch to no conclusion that satisfies anyone. *With thanks to Wikipedia and Google
Invent race baiting! Fearing the very thing that makes this country great, immigrants .There is no such thing as illegal immigrants that was invented by whites that live on Indian land. There are a lot of scared little white males that are scared to death of what happens when they are ruled by the very races they want suppressed.
The richest elites had the knowledge, guts and ambition to pursue a business plan that provided the opportunity for the Middle class to accept or reject payment for the work that is provided. Everyone gets what they deserve for their effort and ambition.
Neither Nazi Germany, the USSR or Red China were socialist. They were what Orwell called Oligarchical Collectivism; “socialism” is a nice label for a dictatorship.
There are so many terms being bantered around that most people have not the slightest clue as to their meaning. Use a dictionary first, folks. And as for Christians and others who claim to be devout of almost every faith, I’ve met very, very few who were truly but thousands who use it as a banner to hide ignorance, fear, and hate and who use limited thinking and stereotypical images and propaganda to hide those vile traits that have nothing to do with their professed “faith.” It disgusts me. Let me see those who would simply live by the ideal of treating people as they would themselves be treated. Their numbers are very few and there is much to be pitied for it.
They sell it through delusion, if you work hard enough and prove yourself you could end up on the board. Of course, they don’t tell you it’s an exclusive club that has already chosen it’s membership for many decades to come. If you aren’t in that club today, you are not going to be in that club tomorrow.
Religion does come in handy for control and to feed the delusion. If you weren’t born better you can believe better. Who needs to think when you can just believe what you are told to believe? Sigh. It’s a cycle that will eventually leave the world without a human race. Hopefully, it won’t be too far gone to try some different eco systems and evolutions of what does survive.
einarbt over 5 years ago
Good one. Waiting for the political comments to start.
DD Wiz over 5 years ago
The plan: The few richest elites who already have the most want the middle class to WORK HARDER for LESS MONEY on which we pay a HIGHER TAX RATE, so they can WORK LESS (or not at all) for MORE MONEY on which they pay a LOWER TAX RATE (or none at all through loopholes, deductions, exemptions, exclusions, shelters, corporate welfare, Cayman Islands tax havens or just eliminating taxes on investment gains).The real CLASS WARFARE is really all about the corporate feudal CONservative plan for REDISTRIBUTING middle class wealth from working people to the few richest elites.
The problem: How do the few richest elites sell that to the workers, since there are more of us than there are of them.
The solution: INVENT RELIGION!
Dtroutma over 5 years ago
Pretty technically advanced rock carving on the table, even if slate.
luvdafuneez over 5 years ago
First board meeting of the illumaniti??
fuzzbucket Premium Member over 5 years ago
Someone on that board came up with an idea, invented a gadget, patented it (which ain’t cheap), arranged financing, produced the product (which involves a thousand headaches), marketed it, etc. etc. With rare exceptions that required thousands of hours of labor before they ever saw a dime of profit. Then they hired employees who work 8 hours and go home complaining that they do all the work while the bosses get all the money.
MeanBob Premium Member over 5 years ago
Who knew organized religion and government got their start the same way?
braindead Premium Member over 5 years ago
The Republican Base still believes that patriotic multinational corporations deserve to pay no taxes.
Because they ‘know’ that eventually something will trickle down to them.
Maybe after the next election.
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Analysis skills
dot-the-I over 5 years ago
For sure a female paleolithic secretary is out making the coffee.
Watcher over 5 years ago
Isn’t that Jeff Bezos at the head of the table? Must be one of his !st disguises.
Lenavid over 5 years ago
“The creatures outside looked from Corporatism to Socialism, and from Socialism to Corporatism, and from Corporatism to Socialism again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” (Apologies to George Orwell)
Socializing the costs, and privatizing the profits; that’s the state of today’s current push for Globalism.
Andrew Sleeth over 5 years ago
The comical part is, they’re convinced we actually believe them.
Masterskrain over 5 years ago
And the mentality level of most corporate Boards has NOT evolved ever since!!
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member over 5 years ago
Class warfare is a thing. That is where revolutions come from. A social reset. However, it often seems as though the ‘leaders’ of the revolutions become the new ‘rich’ and the cycle starts again.
Kveldulf over 5 years ago
Love the eyebrows. They make the chairman and a couple of board members look like they are wearing glasses.
rmercer Premium Member over 5 years ago
It’s so primitive they don’t even have a board, just a stone slab. Maybe we should be calling it a “slab meeting”.
JohnDanahy over 5 years ago
Such a great source of debatable material here. Am so happy to be able to read/contribute occasionally. I try to understand peoples positions based on comments.And I try to form my opinions on what is presently in effect and what (idealistically) needs to happen.Our founding fathers were correct in the assumption that government and religion must be separate. The selfish must be regulated. Logic tempered by compassionate, educated wisdom must determine legislation. Legislators must be true representatives of their constituency which means verifiably fair voting with 100% participation. Campaigning procedures must be free of financial influence with multiple mandatory prime-time debates. Everything, EVERYTHING must be open to change. Geo. Bernard Shaw said “Progress is impossible without change”. Even though I have seen distinct good/bad personalities in animals, humans must rise above base animal instincts. Those that continue to act like feral animals must be treated like feral animals.I always like to invoke C.S. Lewis’ terrific argument in Mere Christianity that, on average, a rational individual will know right from wrong even with no religious influence.But lets keep up the discussion. Thanks, Wiley !!!!
SusieB over 5 years ago
I agree with all except your last statement
russef over 5 years ago
Caption should be: The Trump White House.
tripwire45 over 5 years ago
Isn’t that how socialism works? I think that’s what Castro did in Cuba. ;-)
sandpiper over 5 years ago
This discussion takes on the aspects of the Ouroboros* and thus will stretch to no conclusion that satisfies anyone. *With thanks to Wikipedia and Google
lagoulou over 5 years ago
I thought we were not supposed to talk about religion/politics in polite gatherings…snerk…
wildman-al over 5 years ago
Invent race baiting! Fearing the very thing that makes this country great, immigrants .There is no such thing as illegal immigrants that was invented by whites that live on Indian land. There are a lot of scared little white males that are scared to death of what happens when they are ruled by the very races they want suppressed.
Troy Premium Member over 5 years ago
egalitarianism doesn’t work in real life let alone a business environment.
rlaker22j over 5 years ago
Ever see any preacher from any religion that didn’t have his hand out
JoeHaney over 5 years ago
I was going to say the same thing. Have them talk to Joel Olsteen
Al Nala over 5 years ago
Sounds like communism (as practiced, not theory) to me.
Bicycle Dude over 5 years ago
I like the bone, probably what’s left of one of the “Everybody Else.”
bret over 5 years ago
I think he’s really referring to socialism….
bepapa over 5 years ago
The richest elites had the knowledge, guts and ambition to pursue a business plan that provided the opportunity for the Middle class to accept or reject payment for the work that is provided. Everyone gets what they deserve for their effort and ambition.
Ren Rodee over 5 years ago
Or sell the working man on “the nobility of a career”
willie_mctell over 5 years ago
It’s the hereditary aristocracy model in action.
Godfreydaniel over 5 years ago
Are you saying there was something wrong with Kansas before Kansas?
gcottay over 5 years ago
Wow I never knew the first board meeting had been so productive. It’s been downhill from there.
somebodyshort over 5 years ago
Eventually " everyone else " will invent the guillotine
Alice Lidell over 5 years ago
Best short description of socialism that I’ve seen so far.
slbolfing over 5 years ago
The beginning of socialism!!!
WilliamMedlock over 5 years ago
Neither Nazi Germany, the USSR or Red China were socialist. They were what Orwell called Oligarchical Collectivism; “socialism” is a nice label for a dictatorship.
Evelyn over 5 years ago
Lots of trolls screaming “socialism” today. Gotta start early demonizing social programs before the 2020 elections.
Display over 5 years ago
There are so many terms being bantered around that most people have not the slightest clue as to their meaning. Use a dictionary first, folks. And as for Christians and others who claim to be devout of almost every faith, I’ve met very, very few who were truly but thousands who use it as a banner to hide ignorance, fear, and hate and who use limited thinking and stereotypical images and propaganda to hide those vile traits that have nothing to do with their professed “faith.” It disgusts me. Let me see those who would simply live by the ideal of treating people as they would themselves be treated. Their numbers are very few and there is much to be pitied for it.
Redd Panda over 5 years ago
Same as it ever was.
GiantShetlandPony over 5 years ago
They sell it through delusion, if you work hard enough and prove yourself you could end up on the board. Of course, they don’t tell you it’s an exclusive club that has already chosen it’s membership for many decades to come. If you aren’t in that club today, you are not going to be in that club tomorrow.
Religion does come in handy for control and to feed the delusion. If you weren’t born better you can believe better. Who needs to think when you can just believe what you are told to believe? Sigh. It’s a cycle that will eventually leave the world without a human race. Hopefully, it won’t be too far gone to try some different eco systems and evolutions of what does survive.
GiantShetlandPony over 5 years ago
To those talking about free markets, a true free market has no stock market.
bakana over 5 years ago
Soon to be a Major Motion Picture:
“The Birth of the Corporation”
bp.cropwise over 5 years ago
This is actually how socialism works. The ruling elite get rich and the masses suffer. Venezuela anyone?
kaffekup over 5 years ago
The first meeting of the republican party.
The same guys who are in power now!
jimchronister2016 over 5 years ago
Sounds like s typical communist party board meeting!
morgankhat over 5 years ago
You’re full of s**t. Do some research on who pays the majority of income tax in the US.
Old Asdirt over 5 years ago
Should have been pictured on a wood board.