Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for August 07, 2013

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    Blood-Poisoning Vermin  over 11 years ago

    The rental car company?

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    William_Zhu  over 11 years ago

    Well, Texas has always been a Lone Star. It may be better off alone?

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    David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace  over 11 years ago

    “So my question is: WHY is there still the office of borough president???”-I would assume because the people of New York have chosen to not change the set-up.If it makes them happy, it makes me happy.I want all the residents of NYC to be happy and stay right where they are so they won’t feel obligated to go elsewhere and spend the rest of their lives telling their new neighbors how everything is SUPPOSED to be done.

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    David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace  over 11 years ago

    to be honest, having Duke favor something isn’t generally proof it is a good idea.It just means people with his mentality like it.

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    Doughfoot  over 11 years ago

    @Larry — from yesterday: You are right about Texas contributing more to the US Treasury than it takes. Per capita, it ranks ninth out of the 19 states that do so. The top six “giver” states are Delaware, Minnesota, New Jersey, Connecticut, New York, and Illinois. The top six “taker” states, which receive more federal money than they contribute, are Alaska, New Mexico, Mississippi, Virginia, West Virginia, and Alabama. While it is not true that all “red” states are takers, and all “blue” states are givers (Hawaii is a “taker” while Texas is a “giver”), that is most certainly the overall pattern. Check out the graph here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_taxation_and_spending_by_state

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    Whitecamry  over 11 years ago

    “Forget the Alamo”

    Something tells me that’s the edited version.

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    Varnes  over 11 years ago

    bawana, paranoia runs deep. Into your life it will creep…..It starts when you’re always afraid….

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    Whitecamry  over 11 years ago

    As I recall from history, it wasn’t easy convincing Texans to join the Union anyway.

    Despite their “Lone Star” pretensions, they stumped and lobbied for it for some years until 1845; then it was an matter of drawing the actual border.

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    Varnes  over 11 years ago

    Hey, the only reason Texas didn’t want to be part of Mexico, is because Mexico outlawed slavery. Texans wanted to keep their slaves….simple as that…..Yeah, remember the Alamo, but remember they were fighting for the right to OWN human beings….

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    Ray Thomas  over 11 years ago

    Sometimes Doonesbury is funny and other times he’s insufferably stupid. Today it’s funny.

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    W͛h͛i͛z͛z͛e͛r͛P͛u͛p͛  over 11 years ago

    Just think. If Texas secedes and becomes a separate country.

    It will need diplomatic corps to couple hundred nations. Its own military, customs & border control. Etc….

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    Beleck3  over 11 years ago

    yes Texas is reason enough to let it go, won’t happen, though, like rainfail in a desert. we can only hope.

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    Vermont Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Horrible Tinsley? Who draws the awful Mallard Fillmore? It doesn’t surprise me that the right-wing’s laughs should come from cartoon poultry.

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    Vermont Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Triple in price? That’s ridiculous. Let’s see some numbers.

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    lizilu  over 11 years ago

    Tucci, I am touched by your commentary. Right on, bro.

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    sbchamp  over 11 years ago

    You make me tired…

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    Carml  over 11 years ago

    We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

    To sum up briefly:You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.We get stem cell research and the best beaches.We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin.We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs.You get Alabama.We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.Please be aware that the E.S.A. will be pro choice and anti war and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Afghanistan at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home.

    With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country’s fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95% of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

    With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

    We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

    38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than us lefties.

    We’re taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.Sincerely,Citizens of the Enlightened States of America
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    Carol69  over 11 years ago

    Hope you feel better after venting. Now, get back to work, I need an upgrade on my obamaphone.

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    Raygun  over 11 years ago

    IMO the big fear from the right is that Obamacare will succeed. I welcome it, anything to stop the out-of-control raping of the public from the health care companies.

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    dook  over 11 years ago

    Banana, that premium seems awfully low. How much would the insurance company have to pay if you had to have triple bypass surgery?

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    teredani  over 11 years ago

    I’d sign that petition. Having lived in El Paso for 5 years, it belongs to the Baptists and Mexico any way.

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    Dapperdan61  Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Don’t mess with Texas because Texas is messed up enough as it is. I’ve never seen a state so screwed up in priorities wanting to deny basic healthcare to its citizens. Trying to keep the affordable care act from implementation & denying a woman’s choice. Of course I don’t expect Texas to actually secede from the union & hopefully 1 day cooler heads will prevail & throw out the tea party politicians like Sen. Ted Cruz.

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    susan.e.a.c  over 11 years ago

    Californians have had several secession movements in that last 10 years but, politically, Trudeau can’t bring himself to mention that. Just like when he ends his sabbatical he will refuse to deal with all the air, water, and soil pollution/destruction caused by grow-ops but will willingly deal with lesser problems in the same vein if right wing companies are involved.

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    Draganfly  over 11 years ago

    These increases have nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act

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    bloodylupins  over 11 years ago

    Let Texas go, after Mexico kicks their A** a couple times they will be back…

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    Nighthawks Premium Member over 11 years ago

    there are three reasons for Texas to secede…….rick perryted cruz…..uh , I forget the other reasonoops

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    krisjackson01  over 11 years ago

    No, the Southern states should not be allowed to secede. The first thing they would do is outlaw the vote for non-whites. (They are trying to do that now, with the voter ID laws, et cetera.) Eventually, I’m sure they would bring back slavery.

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    Kirk Barnes Premium Member over 11 years ago

    That’s OK. Texas is currently in the process of throwing away it’s future. The current legislature wants to raid the so-called “Rainy Day Fund” (budget surplus) that backs our credit rating to fund their bureaucracy. To the point that the fund will no longer have enough to sustain an A+ rating. Pretty soon we will be in the same boat everyone else is sinking in.

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    georgelcsmith  over 11 years ago

    You recall wrong! Texas always wanted to join the Union, but it wanted to get a good deal.

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    georgelcsmith  over 11 years ago

    Unlike many liberals, tea party members love the United States. They just don’t want to see it destroyed by the high taxes needed to support the socialism of the left. If those of you that really love the USA as much as tea party people do understood economics, you would be with us.

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    David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace  over 11 years ago

    @Varnes

    “Hey, the only reason Texas didn’t want to be part of Mexico, is because Mexico outlawed slavery”-So you think Texans were willing to die so others could own slaves?Excuse me, of course you do.It had nothing to do with the requirement people convert to Catholicism.It had nothing to do with non representation.It had nothing to do with lack of protection of citizens.Nothing to do with taxes.Nothing to do with immigration restrictionsNothing to do with property rights (land, not people, people should never be property).-It IS funny that it had much to do with illegal immigration and the fact that many Anglo Texans were basically outlaws.(I don’t dispute that slavery was part of it, but not the whole of it.)

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    Carol69  over 11 years ago

    Several years ago I attended a couple of tea party rallies here in middle America just to see what the buzz was about. There were about 600 people at each rally. The people were predominantly couples many with children and covered all age groups. The most striking thing about the people was they were all pleasant, polite, well groomed with hair combed, shoes shined, clothes clean and pressed, no visible tattoos. From the liberal press news I expected a bunch of bomb throwing radicals with tails. I thought these people would be great neighbors. The rally message was fiscal responsibility without the shouting and screaming threats. So I do not understand the liberal press that seems to want to crucify these people for their beliefs. I would encourage people to attend a tea party event and make up their own mind about the Tea Party agenda. These people seemed the opposite of traitors.

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    jintsfan  over 11 years ago

    Speak for yourself Richard.

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    Diane Lee Premium Member over 11 years ago
    As in any war, every person who fought on either side would probably have given you different reasons why he was there. The Catholicism was a “wink wink” situation from the minute Moses Austin agreed to it. Everyone knew that the people he was bringing weren’t Catholics, and the agreement was just a political expediency. There were no actual beefs about the other stuff you mentioned, unless they were individual problems.But, slavery was outlawed in the latest of many versions of their constitution that Mexico had adopted and they started trying to enforce it. This was more because the idea of allowing a bunch of Americans to populate Mexico had become politically unpopular in Mexico, and they decided to deal with their illegal immigrant problem.Did Travis fight for slavery— absolutely. Did Crocket? Probably not, he just showed up anywhere it looked like there was going to be a good fight. Did the other 186 men at the Alamo fight for slavery— who knows— and they are well past the point where you could ask them.
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    Newshound41  over 11 years ago

    Just checked out petition on the White House website. Most of the signatures are from non-Texans. This isn’t a secession movement – it is a kick-out movement.

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    Robert Lowe  over 11 years ago

    Sad, Trudeau used to be funny.

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    kaffekup   over 11 years ago

    Trudeau has always been more commentary with humor than laugh out loud comedy.

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    fins59  over 11 years ago

    Thanks for the humor, only two or three states have the resources to make it on their own, the “New America” would have to rely on them for everything, especially taxes.

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