Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for August 04, 2015

Well, this is indeed awkward.

So, now, it’s Tiff’s turn, with the eyes and brows- but of course in a different sort of way…. – Wow, Gunther actually took a girl by the hand !!!!! – Gunther acts as though Ms. B is going to “Torquemada” some info!

Did Gunther just grab Tiffany’s hand and then exit?

I think he could have been a gent and stayed, but hey, at least he’s evolving.

Just a note … it’s August, so I doubt that Tiffany is there to study.

… like my bedroom."

Tiffany has that deer caught in headlights look in the last panel.

Probably for the same reason he didn’t want Quill to ‘get the wrong idea’ . Either he really likes Tiffany and doesn’t want the fact that he has feelings to get around… or he likes Tiffany and doesn’t want anyone to know that he likes Tiffany. Or that he likes Tiffany …..

Hmmm…this is quite interesting.

“Mommy Nearest”“Mother Of Purl 2”“Tea’s A Crowd”“The Ma Berger Talk Show”“Name, Rank And Favorite Cereal”“Playing ‘Catch Up’ Won’t Cut The Mustard” “Crying In Your Near-Beard”“It’s A ‘4:30 Shadow’, Somewhere…” (♪)“The Possible Return Of The Incredible Sulk”“A Major Invasion For Private Gunther”“An Inquisition Is A Bit Of An Imposition”or“Grilled By A Berger”

Great facial expressions caught in a few cartoon lines on Tiffany. First panel, needled at Gunther’s rudeness, but not about to let on. Second, genuinely touched by Gunther’s Mom’s mothering (when was the last time anybody mothered her?) Third, very vulnerable, trying to stay armored with a smile, but those aren’t her usual insolent eyes.

Confirms my thoughts. School’s out, so there’s no studying going on. Looks like a social visit.

Gunther has had a quiet summer? I would have thought he would be in summer school, to make up some of the courses he missed by skipping the first semester at Moony. If not, then doesn’t he have a job? Even Tiffany does that.

Perhaps like this sentence Tiffany has a missing

i keep telling you…she is vulnerable….

Gunther is really brusque and peevish with his mother these days. He is still a long way from accepting her relationship with Mr. Gray. The guy has issues, is what I’m saying.

If Gunther makes Tifdany feel bad for showing up – I am losing hope for the human race.

First of all, Gunther is being just plain rude with his mother. This is disturbing, but not surprising since he’s been this way since he returned from Peru. What has gotten into him?

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Second of all, there’s no way that Tiffany is missing anything except Gunther’s companionship. If something had happened in her room then they would have started a relationship. There’s no way that Gunther or Tiff for that matter would just leave it at a one night stand.

Not to mention that he’s being kind of rude to Tiffany too. Is that how one greets a friend, “What are you doing here?”!

It seems that Gunther may have embarrassed himself in the time he spend in Tiffany’s dorm room, which is why he has refused to talk about it with Quill. Tiffany came over to let him know all is well, but he’s still upset about the whole thing.

Not only doe Gunther take Tiffany’s hand, but he does it assertively, and he obviously is tired of being smothered by his mom. Tiffany’s expression? Interesting. Somehow I think she is not trying to manipulate the situation, maybe Gunther’s assertiveness is very attractive to her. Given her father gives her everything, but she feels he is estranged from her, maybe an assertive Gunther is just what she needs. Who knows? Very interesting I know I repeat. By the way I think the sentiment that hopes that Gunther will somehow get involved with Luann, and there is still a pining there, when there never was one, has, as the saying goes “that ship has sailed.” This is far more interesting (I know the third time I said interesting, oops, 4th time).

I see we’re heading in the Fifty Shades of Grumpy Gunther route this week…joy

Why Gunther wants to get Tiffany far away from Mama:--

“I’m late.”

G takes charge when he is not thinking he is taking charge, and when he thinks “should I take charge?” he gets deep inside his shell

The thick plottens…er the plot thickens. Gunther will not succeed in hiding this secret from his mother.

She missed her " . "

“I’m pregnant, you’re the father and I’m going to kill all three of us!”…… “Calm down, have some dip.”

Tiffs liking this dominant Gunther…….

I think Tiffany’s late.

Tiff’s now wearing her usual bored look. She looks like a normal girl her age. And yes, she could use some mothering. There’s more to this girl, than meets the eye.

Neither Gunther nor Tiffany has ever had intercourse. She is, then, not pregnant, not “late,” not missing a period. She is interested in visiting her study-buddy.Gunther’s behavior is more charged, and so more interesting. He is still filled with self-loathing, channeled towards his loving (and smothering) Mom. He acts out impulsively, not even conscious that he is taking Tiffany by the hand and asserting dominance.This could with time bud into an interesting romantic passage….

I believe that both Gunther and Mrs. B have some Mommy issues.

Despite trying to get clear of her son’s interest, she does want to know what he is into and with whom.

Gunther is just plain jealous that he is not the only man in his mother’s life regarding her mom’s boyfriend but in this specific case that is not the problem.

He is not being rude, but he does want to have privacy. He is still awkward with whatever happened or did not happen with Tiff in her room. Understandably so, he does not want to talk about it with anybody, which is why he yelled at Quill. And he does not want to talk about that specifically with his mother. And knowing his mother, he does not want her trying to coax anything from Tiff regarding their relationship, even if it is only a friendship.

What’s she doing there?

Indeed. The best thing that could happen to Gunther is for Mr. Gray to move in and for Gunther to move out. The members of the cast are now legal adults. It’s time for this to stop being a strip about people who act like 14-year-olds.

It is time for a makeover for Tiffany. That stiff hair needs livened up.

Gunther is trying to untie the apron strings, but it seems his mother has a padlock on it.

She means well.She obviously knows how to clear them out for Mr. Gray.

I remember a mother in law to be who was just like this before I was married.

Love it! Mom is being just as protective (or is it possessive?) of her little boy, as Gunther was of his innocent mother with Mr. Gray.

I think Momther is just glad Gunther has a new girlfriend! Now maybe he won’t be so sullen and sad, is what she thinks.

I dont know Tiff looks a little intrigued to me.

Gunther need a shrink or anger management classes.

Yes to both!

Somewhere less mother-y would be place of your own Gunther my man.

> He recognized how his mother’s mothering was cloying and retarding his growth as a human being the older he got.>Yet he returned from South America because he was afraid his mother was jeopardizing his plans of always having her in a “granny house” adjoining his own.

Gunther and his mom have exactly the same hairdo!!! Is his too feminine, or her’s too masculine??

OH. So NOW, Mom Wants to Get All “Warm and Fuzzy” and PRY into YOUR Business, When Just a Year ago She Practically Kicked YOU Out Her House to the Wilds of Peru so She Could Get Busy with That Creepy Mr. Gray.

Nice Going, Ma Berger.

And Tell Me. Just WHERE Can One go “Somewhere Less Mother-y?”

Cleveland??

Maybe she’s pregnant?

That was my take, lol

But wouldn’t a pleasant “Hi Tiffany, what’s up?” be a much better greeting for an unexpected visit from a friend? Gunther isn’t just being rude to Tiff, he’s being outright belligerent.

Gunther has become a really unlikable person. I don’t know if that was a deliberate decision on the part of the Evanses but that’s how it turned out. I’m sure the end result will be that Tiff will somehow again be humiliated to keep the Trufans happy.

Thank you, Night-Gaunt49. I’m tired of most coming down on Gunther when he tries to get his mother to see that he is a college age adult, not someone who has to do everything for him. They complain about Gunther’s attitude and snappiness, but how would they have responded if their mother baby talked to them when they were 19 years old?

Gunther is irritated that his mother wants to know what he’s doing – and with whom. Quite natural attitude for a fellow of his age and experience (or lack thereof). So he takes charge and hustles her off to a more secluded spot. She seems impressed with his dominance which she reads as confidence and a little “bad boy” in nature. Some say that many girls kind of like this. I think Tiffany is one of these.

Did Gunther’s balls finally drop?

I’m sorry, but I grew up in my parent’s house. Yeah, I did chores and so on, but I didn’t pay the mortgage, I didn’t repair stuff when it broke (or, after our dad died, I didn’t hire and pay the handyman who helped our mom with broken stairs and such.)

When I started working part time while going to college, I started buying my own food. (I would have paid rent, but my mother didn’t want me to take another college loan.)

Besides the ‘tude that Gunther is showing his mother, his reaction to Tiffany showing up wasn’t so great, either. She should have called in advance, sure, but a visit from a friend (?) or a study buddy, or what, even if unexpected, doesn’t need that kind of reaction.

Gunther continues to disappoint…

It’s not just that “Gunther should move out” – he came back from South America, just so that he could move in, and monitor his Mom’s dating! Well, you knew what you were getting into, G-man, so don’t act put-upon by it.

All it takes is a button up shirt!

“Basically he wants her to be his chore slave, staying out of the way until he needs her..Frankly it’s disgusting, and it’s gone on long enough.”.So you’re saying Gunther’s mother did a disgusting job of raising him?Hatred is bad.

“What we’ve got here is failure to communicate” Happens to most kids and there parents in pre-teens or during high school. But Gunther was (s)mothered and is only now going through that stage. Get over it, folks! It happens!

Me thinks the boy has grown up, finally.

Gunther’s mom is more lothesome than Tiffany ever was.

WHERE is he leading her? I believe this house has a kitchen, and dining/living room, 1 bathroom and 2 bedrooms. So he is most likely leading her to his bedroom.

A young man’s business is usually his own.The library, or?Guess they’ll be going out for ’burgers, huh.

A young man’s business is usually his own.The library, or?Guess they’ll be going out for ’burgers, huh.

“He’d just like his mom to start treating him as an adult not a 2 year old.”

What?!? Please see my previous comment. How is she treating him like a two year old in this instance? I think mom has gotten the hint by now to stop babying him. Right now she is just being hospitable, and Gunther is being rude to his mom and to his guest.

“In all fairness, Gunther didn’t know Tiffany was coming, nor did Tiffany tell him in advance.”

Well, at least he could say “hi” first.

Is Gunther finally cutting the cord?? I hope so!

I think Gunther is emotionally about 14, and so is Tiffany, oddly enough. Gunther is trying to set boundaries in his codependent mommy relationship but is clumsy at it.

is this some secret technique to get her son alone with a pretty girl?

What has happened to our shy, bumbling Gunther? He’s becoming a testy, rude, grouch. Did Rosa actually destroy him? Did he and Tiffany get carried away, have a one night stand, and now he’s feeling guilty, or even worse, worried? Wouldn’t it be ironic if Tiff becomes the sympathetic, likable person in all this? I think that they would make an interesting couple, but I fear that Gunther will cave in and return to Peru to be with Rosa.

Argh! Gunthie’s mom needs to grow up. I know parents like that—not only do they hover, but they are unable to comprehend that children grow (or should grow) into independent adults. Gunthie needs to get a job and move out.

Gunther is very rude to TIffany in the first panel, then he grabs her and yanks her away. He is always rude to his mom. Tiff seems happy to get all this attention. No one actually listens for an answer to the questions they ask her.

So what was Mama Berger going to say? Gunther had a quiet summer, he doesn’t ……Like girls? Have a sex life? Like people? Have any personality? Have any social life?

Tiff and Gunther are definitely falling for each other. They should be getting married shortly. By about the year 2030 or so.

Please don’t insult the other posters.

LOL! We had an 18 year old girl show up at our house looking half dead from lack of sleep because her college roommate seemed to never sleep and kept her awake. She crashed on our living room floor. Several years later our eldest son married her.

It’s strange how some people think the first rule of hospitality, i.e., offering refreshments to one’s guests along with friendly greetings and polite chit chat, is hovering and loathsome. I guess we just need to grow up.

Some new unknowns here.. Gunther’s mom seems to know Tiffany (by name at least) suggesting that Tiff and Gunth continued interacting after the bio field trip affair. And what would have been the end of her sentence “.. He doesn’t…..”? He doesn’t what? work? go out ? She wants to “… find out..” everything. And Gunther grabbing Tiff by the hand suggests that they have some sort of continuing physical relationship. HMMMM

Mrs. Berger is using Tiffany as a way of saying what she would really like to say to Gunther. Like… ‘why aren’t you more busy? why aren’t you using your summer more productively?’.. maybe something like that…

maybe he’s being wooed by ISIS and is preparing to convert to Islam and go off to an ISIS training camp.

Is that the awkward mumbler taking Tiff somewhere private? My, how Gunther has changed. Seems to be taking Tiff by surprise, too.

“Well, I’ll be back a little later to read the rest of the comments, a thunderstorm is moving into our area — I’m hearing it now — and I don’t want my ’puter to be on (or plugged in) during the storm. Bye for now!”

Last T-storm here in TN took out 1 TV, 1 sound bar, 1 Roku box, 1 HDMI switch, & the HD portion of HDMI-1 on my other TV.

We never did learn what salamanders do after the tails wiggle. What happens to the eggs?

It’s his usual convoluted attacks. D.H.G. once had this absurd argument with me, and every time I responded he pretended to misunderstand what I meant. I can’t even, with him. eyeroll

Or reproductive.

Tiffany looks like a fembot in panel 3

It’s some people’s way of being rude. So is asking a question and not waiting for an answer. It shows that the speaker holds the person being spoken about/to in so little regard that it is not necessary to be polite to them.

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Boy, Tiff’s grew big and so did her smile.

“My mother-in-law used to do that to me all the time. "-Understandable. You were an adult and in charge of your life. This is a teenager and his mommy dearest.

implausible isn’t the one who attacks other posters.

“Soon, my Trinidad Scorpion Moruga peppers (about 2,000,000 Scoville units) will be ripe….”^Ha ha ha ha!!!

“I think it’s just some people’s way of doing things.”^Also a yep!!!

“It has always been a tit-for-tat relationship of one upswomenship.”

I’m not understanding what you are referring to :/

“In real life”, I am a pretty private person. Only info that is necessary or germane to the subject at hand, or whatever is appropriate for the “level of clearance” (i.e.,strangers, acquaintances, friends, close friends, family), so to speak, for that particular person (the “need to know” basis sort of thing). However, when people genuinely inquire about my welfare and happiness, I will respond with willing and delightful happiness! It’s all part of the human experience. When done in balance, people can get to know one another, without too much drama, and such. – However, if one seems to look around constantly, and keeps “searching” me while asking me a series of questions, then I’ll know that it’s just “prying” and will proceed to not provide them with any details. – It’s almost sort of like an electrical logic circuit, or a flow chart. Given the right conditions, two or more people can show genuine interest in others, and even get to know one another better. But do something to undermine/erode any level of trust, and the whole thing is changed. That’s pretty much where Gunther is with his mom. He is trying to become more aware, more confident, more willing to live life, instead of being “overly careful” (as Rosa was trying to point out to him in the past), however, he doesn’t want to “lay his cards on the table” for his mother to know what’s going on with him. It’s as simple as that. It’s why he said: "Where it’s less ‘mother-y’ . Granted, one does wish to enjoy a measure of privacy. However, it seems in Gunther’s case, he really does like Tiffany, and he has all these other experiences, but really doesn’t know how to “let his guard down”, even with his own mother. He isn’t just wishing to “avoid prying”, he is really more so just still trying to get to that next level of confidence (the one that would also even help him to see how it’s okay for his mother to have another guy in her life!)….

Here’s a slightly different way of looking at this. In the first frame, Gunther could have just said ‘Hello, Tiffany’, instead of asking what she was doing at his house (not exactly the kind of welcome that shows a guy is interested in a gal, to my way of thinking.)

Then, in answer to him mother’s statement that she would make them all some tea and they could talk, he would just say ‘Thanks, anyway, Mom, but Tiff and I have some study plans and she just came to get me’. (And since Tiff does have her own car, and, as we know, Gunther doesn’t have a car, this is logical.)

The final frame could show Gunther pulling Tiff by the hand out to her car.

Then, (SPOILER ALERT), Tiff explains what she’s doing there. No, really, she does. Even though Gunther doesn’t seem to believe it for a second…

Caldonia said, about 16 hours ago@DavidHuieGreen“And, you just proved my point. Wow. You’re so crude, such a misogynist, so hateful. I hope you sleep well tonight, because you’ve really hit a new low.”.Have you forgotten your promise?But, yes, I slept well, thank you for asking.

Good grief, his mother is suffocating.